An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
Discussion
5s Alive said:
I'd wager that nearly everyone on here would always accelerate up to merging speed on slip roads, and that they would also leave sufficient space from the vehicle in front not to be caught out by those who either crawl on or stop at the end of the slip.
Yet somehow this ends up in pointless circular arguments.
Remarkable.
This place has its fair share of blithering ejits to be fair...or just contrary trolls. Not sure which in some cases.Yet somehow this ends up in pointless circular arguments.
Remarkable.
5s Alive said:
I'd wager that nearly everyone on here would always accelerate up to merging speed on slip roads, and that they would also leave sufficient space from the vehicle in front not to be caught out by those who either crawl on or stop at the end of the slip.
Yet somehow this ends up in pointless circular arguments.
Remarkable.
Yeah, this.Yet somehow this ends up in pointless circular arguments.
Remarkable.
My post was responding to someone claiming they were almost killed because the driver in front was being a dawdling idiot. Looking for a gap and keeping an eye on the vehicle in front is hardly rocket science.
Pan Pan Pan said:
Evanivitch said:
Pan Pan Pan said:
G Thang said:
Donbot said:
How do you almost die from that? The slip road is a give way.
The slip road is for accelerating up to a speed that matches the speed of the first lane so that you can enter the motorway without causing other cars to brake or swerve to avoid a collision.If you find yourself up the backside of such a slow vehicle, you've completely failed to observe what's ahead. Your next step is to create space to allow yourself to accelerate, so yes, that does mean slowing down initially. Perhaps a hard concept for some?
The real problem, is you not understanding what slip roads are for.
Are you one of those drivers, who dawdles down a slip road at 30 mph, when joining a motorway, where traffic (Even Hgvs) will moving at much higher speeds?
It seems you could do with re taking your driving test, to learn what slip roads are for and to stop yourself being a dangerous menace to other drivers..
croyde said:
Bloody hell! I took the car to work, not the motorbike.
First warm weekend and the roads of SW London are swarming with the Tour de France lot.
Add to that cars too afraid to overtake the cyclists, or overtake but must not break 20mph, making the journey bloody chaotic......and slow.
It's definitely no fun on today's over croyded roads. First warm weekend and the roads of SW London are swarming with the Tour de France lot.
Add to that cars too afraid to overtake the cyclists, or overtake but must not break 20mph, making the journey bloody chaotic......and slow.
5s Alive said:
croyde said:
Bloody hell! I took the car to work, not the motorbike.
First warm weekend and the roads of SW London are swarming with the Tour de France lot.
Add to that cars too afraid to overtake the cyclists, or overtake but must not break 20mph, making the journey bloody chaotic......and slow.
It's definitely no fun on today's over croyded roads. First warm weekend and the roads of SW London are swarming with the Tour de France lot.
Add to that cars too afraid to overtake the cyclists, or overtake but must not break 20mph, making the journey bloody chaotic......and slow.
croyde said:
5s Alive said:
croyde said:
Bloody hell! I took the car to work, not the motorbike.
First warm weekend and the roads of SW London are swarming with the Tour de France lot.
Add to that cars too afraid to overtake the cyclists, or overtake but must not break 20mph, making the journey bloody chaotic......and slow.
It's definitely no fun on today's over croyded roads. First warm weekend and the roads of SW London are swarming with the Tour de France lot.
Add to that cars too afraid to overtake the cyclists, or overtake but must not break 20mph, making the journey bloody chaotic......and slow.
MDUBZ said:
I've been back on the bike this week for the commute into London, and i know how PH loves sweeping generalisations but Tesla drivers seem to be on par with prius drivers for being completely unaware of what's going on around them.
Although no excuse EV Tesla boredom explains much.Edited by MDUBZ on Friday 12th April 21:28
monkfish1 said:
No, as Evanivitch knows. But you know how he like to argue. Seemingly, just for the sake of it. Just dont understand it myself.
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ
biggbn said:
I went for a drive Sunday, across Angus, up the back of Alyth, up Glenshee to Braemar then back throigh Ballater and over Cairnamount. It was a beautiful day, I was rarely above 55mph anywhere, passed the cars I wanted to, followed the ones I couldn't. Only had one car pass me, one that I noticed and let pass, a white GR Yaris.. said to my Mrs, he'll want to give it some along here! What a wonderful thing!
Some on this thread would consider I spent the day 'dawdling' when they see my average speed, but I never held anyone up all day and was still quicker than 90% of traffic, despite never approaching the legal 'limit'. This thread has been an eye opener for me. Things must be dreadful in England if it is as described by some, yet some don't seem to experience the problems, or anger others do? It surely must he geographical.
It is definitely geographical. You're fortunate to be in a part of the UK where the entire population is considerably less than the UK's capital city alone.Some on this thread would consider I spent the day 'dawdling' when they see my average speed, but I never held anyone up all day and was still quicker than 90% of traffic, despite never approaching the legal 'limit'. This thread has been an eye opener for me. Things must be dreadful in England if it is as described by some, yet some don't seem to experience the problems, or anger others do? It surely must he geographical.
Also it comprises only 10% of that in the whole of England. Add in the fact that the vast majority live in the central belt: in comparison the rest of it is deserted.
On my last visit I had breakfast in Blairgowrie. In the ensuing 100 miles to Forres I encountered fewer than a dozen cars. Passed all of them without once exceeding the NSL.
It's almost impossible to enjoy a decent drive where I live unless I get up early on a Sunday morning and finish before breakfast.
bigothunter said:
Mr Tidy said:
It's just tedious, so I often try to seek out A Road alternatives for a bit of fun!
Making car travel tedious is part of the broader plan.Let the train take the strain...
https://www.mapmarketing.com/products/uk-rail-oper...
croyde said:
You've not seen the sliproad on to the A3 south of Wimbledon by Combe Road 
A single lane sharp left off the main road, very sharp right-hand bend then a 90 degree to the left very short slip road to get on to the 3 lane A3 south.
Speed limit is 50mph but it's usually a phalanx of traffic all doing 50/60.
If you don't start accelerating and looking over your shoulder to guage the traffic as soon as you leave the main road you'll be in trouble.
Most people don't do what I try to do and just bimble along and then sit on the little slip road wondering what to do.
You have to treat it like taking off from an Aircraft carrier
The perfect spot for a launch control! As is the one at South Lane , Kingston!A single lane sharp left off the main road, very sharp right-hand bend then a 90 degree to the left very short slip road to get on to the 3 lane A3 south.
Speed limit is 50mph but it's usually a phalanx of traffic all doing 50/60.
If you don't start accelerating and looking over your shoulder to guage the traffic as soon as you leave the main road you'll be in trouble.
Most people don't do what I try to do and just bimble along and then sit on the little slip road wondering what to do.
You have to treat it like taking off from an Aircraft carrier
Pan Pan Pan said:
croyde said:
According to the highway code traffic entering a motorway have to match the speed of the traffic in lane 1 and find a space to merge into.
I know most of us, when using lane 1, do our best to move to lane 2 to accommodate traffic joining the motorway but it is not suggested in the highway code.
Again Exactly! It seems some don't understand what a slip road is for. To `increase' speed, so as to match the speed of the traffic on road being joined. and to `decrease' speed when coming off a motorway etc so as to match the slower speed of traffic on smaller local roads. I know most of us, when using lane 1, do our best to move to lane 2 to accommodate traffic joining the motorway but it is not suggested in the highway code.
kwit, further increasing the speed differential when you join. If lane 2 isn't clear you're stuck behind them even longer, hoping that anyone coming up behind you in lane 1 has noticed, and when you do pull out you have to accelerate harder to get up to speed. andy43 said:
Vast majority of the roads I drive on in yerp have two lanes. Maybe offering people three options, or worse, four to choose from, is where we’re going wrong.
It's an interesting idea that the existence of a third lane is the thing that triggers the tools and confuses the thick. Maybe when there's only two lanes it harder for them to claim ownership or they're more fearful of confrontation? With a middle lane they know they can cause trouble for everyone else but as their victims can all ultimately get past its always going to be low to no confrontation. Statistics suggest that PH is riddled with the people who deliver sit in the middle lane in the U.K. and then have perfect lane discipline when they go abroad. Why do they keep so quiet on PH if they have a reason for doing what they do if it isn't out of inner anger and self contempt?
Red Devil said:
bigothunter said:
Mr Tidy said:
It's just tedious, so I often try to seek out A Road alternatives for a bit of fun!
Making car travel tedious is part of the broader plan.Let the train take the strain...
https://www.mapmarketing.com/products/uk-rail-oper...
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