An epidemic of insanely slow drivers
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I'm driving down to Dorset from Yorkshire in a few weeks, the first of 4 trips to South coast this year. Everybody else wants to set off at 9am, I'm driving and were setting off at 2am, they can all go back to sleep, I'll wake them up when we're nearly there.
I'm getting the majority of the journey done when all of the lobotomized r@tards who I'd otherwise be sharing the road with are all snuggled up in bed, they can do 40mph on the motorway once I've safely arrived on the Isle of Portland, unpacked and grabbed a couple of hours sleep.
The last time that I set off at 9am to go down that way was in 2022 and I was fried 8 hours later, no thanks, this time I'll be there for 7.30am just as Maureen and Herbert are putting the kettle on and discussing which route they're going to clog up.
I'm getting the majority of the journey done when all of the lobotomized r@tards who I'd otherwise be sharing the road with are all snuggled up in bed, they can do 40mph on the motorway once I've safely arrived on the Isle of Portland, unpacked and grabbed a couple of hours sleep.
The last time that I set off at 9am to go down that way was in 2022 and I was fried 8 hours later, no thanks, this time I'll be there for 7.30am just as Maureen and Herbert are putting the kettle on and discussing which route they're going to clog up.
Edited by Gordon Hill on Friday 29th March 22:21
It's only going to get worse now that the better weather and longer days are here. Motorhomes or whatever they call them are out and about with George and Mildred on tour hoping to complete the nc500. Their small daily driver parked up at home and they jump into a monster so take it easy for a few hundred miles terrified that their milk will spill or the dog throws up over their bed. Hells teeth, George and Mildred are bad enough in their little fart boxes without letting them loose in a glorified campervan. I despise the things.
Rant over.
Rant over.
Dan-k said:
I had some woman driving through a car park with puddles ask me if I was in hurry cos I just drove through them in a normal manner - i replied “yes I have a job to do in a limited time” she said “only my disabled husband washed the car yesterday and I had splashed it with dirty water” I just said okay then.
I've had "why did you pull out in front of me?""I didn't, it's my priority and apart from that I might have had a clue if you were indicating"
They said "but I've got my kids in the car"
I said "sorry, what?" [disbelieving]
"I've got the kids in the car"
"okay then"
If you sit and think for a minute how that person's mind must work it's actually a bit scary.
Edited by popeyewhite on Friday 29th March 23:02
A435 yesterday afternoon, a break in the weather made conditions pretty decent. It's not the biggest stretch of road but it is a well sighted NSL road.
Just stunned at a driver in the right hand lane doing 40 mph, now, I'm not saying you have to drive at the speed limit, free country etc but surely you can do that on the left?
Anyway, I passed (as did the queue behind) and in the mirror did he move over? Nope, still dawdling in the right hand lane.
BH dawdling at its finest.
Just stunned at a driver in the right hand lane doing 40 mph, now, I'm not saying you have to drive at the speed limit, free country etc but surely you can do that on the left?
Anyway, I passed (as did the queue behind) and in the mirror did he move over? Nope, still dawdling in the right hand lane.
BH dawdling at its finest.
croyde said:
I'm glad the majority of drivers don't use them but a friend who was having driving lessons was told to keep left and use the bus lanes when allowed as it was a fail if you didn't.
I did fail on this exact thing 23(!)!years ago - even though the reason I didn’t move onto the bus lane was because an blue-lighted ambulance was approaching in it some 750yds away behind me. Appealed to no end. Anyhoo, back o/t:
I followed a driver doing 7 in a 30 yesterday slam on their brakes and stop dead in lane for no reason at all. They were incredulous when I beeped at them to move on!
7mph FFS!
Hol said:
anderson64 said:
Try living in Dorset.
One main dual carriageway in from and to Southampton. I use this twice a day and most of the time we're sat in a line of cars in the outside lane
with speeds regulary around the 50 - 55mph mark, and often dropping down well below that, sometimes even getting down to 20ish. As you join the A31 from the M27 there's a long hill with a bend at the brow which usually drops the speed down to a standstill because people cant negotiate a bend on a dual carriageway!
It seems one of the major causes is the seemingly increasing number of people that are in lane one, but maintaining a steady 50, no doubt for economy, that force all the slower moving vehicles, trucks etc. into lane 2. Also the number of young drivers that will sit in the eoutside lane on a clear road and refuse to move over.
Cool lurking.One main dual carriageway in from and to Southampton. I use this twice a day and most of the time we're sat in a line of cars in the outside lane
with speeds regulary around the 50 - 55mph mark, and often dropping down well below that, sometimes even getting down to 20ish. As you join the A31 from the M27 there's a long hill with a bend at the brow which usually drops the speed down to a standstill because people cant negotiate a bend on a dual carriageway!
It seems one of the major causes is the seemingly increasing number of people that are in lane one, but maintaining a steady 50, no doubt for economy, that force all the slower moving vehicles, trucks etc. into lane 2. Also the number of young drivers that will sit in the eoutside lane on a clear road and refuse to move over.
I assume that’s the stretch out of Cadnan up the hill adjacent to Stony Cross?
That was just as s
te when I lived in Lyndhurst 25 years ago.But nowhere near as bad as the road captains blocking both lanes on the A36 between Whiteparish and Salisbury.
Agree that Dorset has some right muppets.
Anyway, that side is the original A31 and used to be single carriageway, however the Eastbound side is 'new' and was installed over a 10 ish year period in the 60's.
From what i understood, there are plans to realign it with the Eastbound side but there is no timescale for when this will be happening.
I drove through the area last year and they have widened the road at the 338 junction at Ringwood but all that has done is push the traffic further back to Poulner Hill exit.
Hateful road.
Gordon Hill said:
I've noticed that it's not the minority who are dawdling, it's the majority, has everybody been lobotomized?
There's been a noticeable change since the Covid pandemic. Possibly just cultural as laziness induced by the furlough took hold. Or maybe something more sinister like mild long-Covid. Or even apathy caused by the grim prospects of failing Britain.We seem to be in the grip of a national malaise. Hardly anybody can be bothered to give a f*ck.
I’ve seen quite a bit of ‘elephant racing’ between normal cars recently.
It used to just be trucks with their speed limiters passing each other at 1/2mph but now regular cars do it.
Someone wants to get past but won’t even do the gps accurate speed, so crawl past. They then slow down so the passed car does the same thing to them and it repeats if many miles.
It used to just be trucks with their speed limiters passing each other at 1/2mph but now regular cars do it.
Someone wants to get past but won’t even do the gps accurate speed, so crawl past. They then slow down so the passed car does the same thing to them and it repeats if many miles.
Talking of speed, has anyone else had this misfortune to use the clearly lethal A20 dc around Orpington way recently?
It's now 40 mph, despite the section allowing top speed Veyron tests if you fancied it.
Apparently, it was reduced to what now feels like a walking pace over several miles due to "ongoing flooding issues". Why fix a problem when you can just lower limits?
Clearly, the laughable reduction forced someone to take action because a fake 50 mph sign was erected at the side of the road. Several hundred drivers are now said to have been fined as a result due to the average speed cameras and, of course, the police say the fines will still stand.
It's now 40 mph, despite the section allowing top speed Veyron tests if you fancied it.
Apparently, it was reduced to what now feels like a walking pace over several miles due to "ongoing flooding issues". Why fix a problem when you can just lower limits?
Clearly, the laughable reduction forced someone to take action because a fake 50 mph sign was erected at the side of the road. Several hundred drivers are now said to have been fined as a result due to the average speed cameras and, of course, the police say the fines will still stand.
Another driver doing 17 in a 20 and then wishes to overtake a cyclist doing 16.99999mph.
Doesn't increase his speed to lower the time spent in proximity but does move over in to the opposite carriageway thus causing oncoming traffic to avoid or stop.
Just worries me how oblivious/daft many have become.
Doesn't increase his speed to lower the time spent in proximity but does move over in to the opposite carriageway thus causing oncoming traffic to avoid or stop.
Just worries me how oblivious/daft many have become.
croyde said:
Another driver doing 17 in a 20 and then wishes to overtake a cyclist doing 16.99999mph.
Doesn't increase his speed to lower the time spent in proximity but does move over in to the opposite carriageway thus causing oncoming traffic to avoid or stop.
Just worries me how oblivious/daft many have become.
That’s what the six foot cyclist clearance rule together with the 20mph limit gets you. Doesn't increase his speed to lower the time spent in proximity but does move over in to the opposite carriageway thus causing oncoming traffic to avoid or stop.
Just worries me how oblivious/daft many have become.
Time exposed to danger = minutes not seconds.
Off topic a bit but has anyone noticed The Edge? Cars stop early in traffic or at lights, leaving a good half a cars length of space in front of them. A few seconds later they edge forward to where they should have originally stopped. Then the numb nuts behind them all do the same, all edging forward by six feet or so. Result = a full car space or more in front of me until the traffic actually gets moving properly. Idiots. I’m sure all they are concentrating on is the tailgate of the car in front.
andy43 said:
croyde said:
Another driver doing 17 in a 20 and then wishes to overtake a cyclist doing 16.99999mph.
Doesn't increase his speed to lower the time spent in proximity but does move over in to the opposite carriageway thus causing oncoming traffic to avoid or stop.
Just worries me how oblivious/daft many have become.
That’s what the six foot cyclist clearance rule together with the 20mph limit gets you. Doesn't increase his speed to lower the time spent in proximity but does move over in to the opposite carriageway thus causing oncoming traffic to avoid or stop.
Just worries me how oblivious/daft many have become.
Time exposed to danger = minutes not seconds.
Off topic a bit but has anyone noticed The Edge? Cars stop early in traffic or at lights, leaving a good half a cars length of space in front of them. A few seconds later they edge forward to where they should have originally stopped. Then the numb nuts behind them all do the same, all edging forward by six feet or so. Result = a full car space or more in front of me until the traffic actually gets moving properly. Idiots. I’m sure all they are concentrating on is the tailgate of the car in front.
Whataguy said:
I’ve seen quite a bit of ‘elephant racing’ between normal cars recently.
It used to just be trucks with their speed limiters passing each other at 1/2mph but now regular cars do it.
Someone wants to get past but won’t even do the gps accurate speed, so crawl past. They then slow down so the passed car does the same thing to them and it repeats if many miles.
That is something I've seen a fair bit more of. Why you'd take a mile or more to overtake a car doing 65 mph at 67mph and drop back in and do 67mph is beyond me. I suspect it's bit of the road captain thing with a lot of people but obviously no way of knowing. A lack of awareness and basic incompetence can explain a lot. I just hang back so there's no satisfaction to be gained if they think they're holding me up. It does give me a chance to play around with some of the settings in the car; there are loads I don't understand in a few of them.It used to just be trucks with their speed limiters passing each other at 1/2mph but now regular cars do it.
Someone wants to get past but won’t even do the gps accurate speed, so crawl past. They then slow down so the passed car does the same thing to them and it repeats if many miles.
or maybe 
Unreal said:
Whataguy said:
I’ve seen quite a bit of ‘elephant racing’ between normal cars recently.
It used to just be trucks with their speed limiters passing each other at 1/2mph but now regular cars do it.
Someone wants to get past but won’t even do the gps accurate speed, so crawl past. They then slow down so the passed car does the same thing to them and it repeats if many miles.
That is something I've seen a fair bit more of. Why you'd take a mile or more to overtake a car doing 65 mph at 67mph and drop back in and do 67mph is beyond me. I suspect it's bit of the road captain thing with a lot of people but obviously no way of knowing. A lack of awareness and basic incompetence can explain a lot. I just hang back so there's no satisfaction to be gained if they think they're holding me up. It does give me a chance to play around with some of the settings in the car; there are loads I don't understand in a few of them.It used to just be trucks with their speed limiters passing each other at 1/2mph but now regular cars do it.
Someone wants to get past but won’t even do the gps accurate speed, so crawl past. They then slow down so the passed car does the same thing to them and it repeats if many miles.
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