RE: New Mercedes-AMG GT 43 arrives with 421hp

RE: New Mercedes-AMG GT 43 arrives with 421hp

Tuesday 19th March

New Mercedes-AMG GT 43 arrives with 421hp

The GT gets a 'purist' rear-drive, two-seat option - but there's a catch


So we’ve been here before. You’ll likely recall that the Mercedes-AMG SL43 arrived in the UK last year, featuring the manufacturer’s famed 2.0-litre turbocharged four-pot. We quite liked it, on the basis that it was rear-drive and the best part of 200kg lighter than the V8. But we did voice concerns that maybe the six-figure price tag and lower 382hp output were not doing the model any favours. Well, in one respect (because we don’t know the price yet) the GT version of the ’43 goes one better: it launches with 421hp. 

Big whoop, you might think, but the 39hp (and 15lb ft of torque) uplift ought to mean that some of the longitudinally-mounted M139’s missing feistiness in the SL has returned. In the convertible, the toned-down version couldn’t deliver the expected head-rush in the vicinity of its redline; in the GT, hopefully it will. Certainly, it has resulted in 0.3 seconds being shaved from the 0-62mph time - which is useful for getting the entry-level coupe closer to the 4.5-second mark. Which feels like the minimum standard for a high-end performance car these days. 

Otherwise, there is much here that ought to seem familiar. The latest variant of the 2.0-litre unit gets the electrically aided turbocharger (i.e. there’s a dinky little motor integrated on the shaft that accelerates the compressor before the exhaust gases take over) which significantly improves throttle response - and is mated to the nine-speed MCT, which stacks its ratios like rugby balls in a training bag (i.e. very close together). Factor in the short-term 14hp boost you get from the starter generator from a standstill, and there ought to be no hesitation at slow speed. Even without an additional driven axle. 

Mercedes-AMG doesn’t make it clear how much weight has been lost by shedding the all-wheel-drive system and rear-axle steer (the latter remains an option, mind) although presumably it’s a similar figure to the SL. Otherwise, the slightly slimmer multi-link chassis is comprised of steel coil springs and passive aluminium dampers as standard, with adaptive AMG Ride Control shocks also on the cost option list. The GT 43 gets thinner anti-roll bars (because less weight) although it seems like it retains AMG’s high-performance composite brake system. So expect cornering and stopping to be up to snuff. 

Of course, if you have any concerns about the car’s dynamism, Mercedes-AMG will cheerily sell you a Dynamic Plus package which includes adaptive engine mounts, a snappier electronically controlled rear diff, an underbody aerodynamic element that extends to reduce lift on the front axle and the option of a fixed rear wing. Interestingly, it doesn’t seem like the pack adds larger wheels - but you can have these, too, all the way up to forged 21s if you wish. If not, 19-inch alloys are standard. 

Inside the more affordable GT is much like the V8-powered variants - meaning it is dominated by an 11.9-inch portrait format touchscreen - and there is a choice of sporty front seats. There’s also a choice of back seats, as the 43 is a two-seater as standard. We’d be inclined to stick with that format (obviously not wanting to ruin the model’s superior weight distribution) but you can return the entry-level model to 2+2 status if you wish. Quite how much that or the GT 43 itself will cost we must wait to find out, although it’s safe to assume that it will represent a fairly substantial saving over the V8-powered variants. Unfortunately, as Mercedes UK has just reminded us (so consider this a forlorn UPDATE to the above), we won't see the cheaper GT in this country as the firm has opted to make the range-topping '63 the exclusive offering for British customers. Which frankly seems like a missed opportunity given the acute lack of direct rivals to the Porsche 911 Carrera. But there we go: PH expats, enjoy.


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jaacck

Original Poster:

191 posts

140 months

Tuesday 19th March
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A car like this deserves the waft of a bigger engine. The problem with that four pot is that it will be fast I am sure but not have the ease / low down torque of a larger engine. A straight six engine would of been a better option I think.

Julian Thompson

2,546 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I think that’s a brilliant effort given the current circumstances - and that power level is going to be useable and fun.

Dombilano

1,138 posts

55 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Looks like a weird 911 from some angles

Andy665

3,622 posts

228 months

Tuesday 19th March
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That rear end is a dead ringer for a 911

Leon R

3,206 posts

96 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.

GT9

6,576 posts

172 months

Tuesday 19th March
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If the AMG A45 is anything to go by, putting a stupidly powerful 4-cylinder in these cars makes for a car that is permanently driven like it's been stolen.
The only redeeming feature is how fast the car is, and the roided neckbeards driving them want you to be left with zero uncertainty about that.

LankyFreak

670 posts

28 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Interior is very very dull

stuart100

476 posts

57 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I have grown used to AMG 55's, 63's, 65s, and 73s. I'm okay with the 53's in the E Class, and the 45s in the A Class. But a top tier model like this with a 43? Reminds me of Clarkson saying about Boxsters and "life hasn't quite turned out quite as well as you expected it to"...

D4rez

1,390 posts

56 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Leon R said:
Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.
Because in short order this is pretty much what they will be able to offer. They need to start socialising a 4-cylinder in a performance car for emissions reasons. If it even grabs them an extra 10% sales it’s probably worth doing at this point and as I said long term it will be important unless they want to go fully EV ahead of the tech being ready for this type of car.

We will gradually see fewer and fewer big cap engines and so expect to see more of this

Gecko1978

9,710 posts

157 months

Tuesday 19th March
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It might be less than 163k but it will still I suspect be way past north of 100k for a car with a 4 cylinder engine.

Might as well either get a used on or wait for the EV this does not impress. Its like a 318 m sport


budgie smuggler

5,385 posts

159 months

Tuesday 19th March
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jaacck said:
A car like this deserves the waft of a bigger engine. The problem with that four pot is that it will be fast I am sure but not have the ease / low down torque of a larger engine. A straight six engine would of been a better option I think.
I'm sure it will be more than adequate with the 9sp gearbox and electric turbo. Bit depressing though.

UncleGoat

34 posts

55 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Don't see the point of this car, big GT car and it'll sound like a boring 4 cyl Golf, each to their own I guess.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Realistically this will be well over £100k, you'd have to be off your rocker to buy a 4-pot for that money. Shame they don't offer the straight-6 instead

je777

341 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Who is buying new modern sportscars with four-cylinder engines when you can buy one a few years old with a fun engine?
Surely, the whole point is fun?
Are these only being bought by people who want the image of a sportscar and don't care about the driving?

je777

341 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th March
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GT9 said:
roided neckbeards
- love it.

Wills2

22,833 posts

175 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I think it's a nice looking car, but those performance figures and a 4 pot for what will be around £120k will restrict the sales I would imagine, you're going to have to be a big merc fan to buy one over a 911.




Red6

363 posts

56 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Looks like a Maserati from some angles. But as someone stated. A good effort, but I thought a V6 might have been a better engine option.

Angelo1985

238 posts

26 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Looks better than the previous generation, although the back remembers too much a 911.

Guys, wouldn’t it be time to stop moaning about 4 cylinders engines? Especially when they offer this level of performance.
The only thing I am not sure of is how these engine will be in 10 years. Most are complex high revving engines and although you could say that for every new car, what will the durability be?

LotusOmega375D

7,627 posts

153 months

Tuesday 19th March
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Angelo1985 said:
Guys, wouldn’t it be time to stop moaning about 4 cylinders
No not even close. Plenty more bile in my spleen, thanks. biggrin

je777

341 posts

104 months

Tuesday 19th March
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I find the 'This is how things are, so we should just accept it' attitude baffling - whatever aspect of life it's applied to.

This is largely how governments get away with the t*rd they perpetually lump onto us.