RE: New Mercedes-AMG GT 43 arrives with 421hp
Discussion
D4rez said:
Leon R said:
Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.
Because in short order this is pretty much what they will be able to offer. They need to start socialising a 4-cylinder in a performance car for emissions reasons. If it even grabs them an extra 10% sales it’s probably worth doing at this point and as I said long term it will be important unless they want to go fully EV ahead of the tech being ready for this type of car.We will gradually see fewer and fewer big cap engines and so expect to see more of this
That's what I figured.
I can understand why Mercedes UK have decided not to import this, given that it would probably cost well into 6 figures and don't think the market is ready to pay that sort of money for a 4 cylinder car.
Not really clear in which countries there would be a market for this, unless it fulfils some sort of tax break brief somewhere...
Not really clear in which countries there would be a market for this, unless it fulfils some sort of tax break brief somewhere...
I think it looks good inside outside, although not a fan of such big TV screen, but hey.
it seems the engine is mostly for country's like the Netherlands and sort, it save 80k to a V8 version because of BPM tax Co2/gr/km.
love such longitudinal 4 cill engine with 420hp, could be a great swap engine for a lot of cars in the future.
it seems the engine is mostly for country's like the Netherlands and sort, it save 80k to a V8 version because of BPM tax Co2/gr/km.
love such longitudinal 4 cill engine with 420hp, could be a great swap engine for a lot of cars in the future.
Leon R said:
Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.
They have to use them up somewhow.They'll be in M class and G wagons by Xmas and the S class next spring.
As for being impressed by the power, Fiat had 300 Hp from their 4 cylinder S76 in 1910. Now THAT was a 4 cyl engine.
Edited by ex-devonpaul on Tuesday 19th March 13:23
ex-devonpaul said:
Leon R said:
Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.
They have to use them up somewhow.They'll be in M class and G wagons by Xmas and the S class next spring.
As for being impressed by the power, Fiat had 300 Hp from their 4 cylinder S76 in 1910. Now THAT was a 4 cyl engine.
Edited by ex-devonpaul on Tuesday 19th March 13:23
I usually say its fine, the target market doesnt care, its got plenty of power yadda yadda, but in this case, nope, the target market I would imagine do care and this would be like getting home and realising the burgers your bought in a hurry are "plant based" and the beers 0 percent, i.e. probably fine but not what you wanted.
Angelo1985 said:
Looks better than the previous generation, although the back remembers too much a 911.
Guys, wouldn’t it be time to stop moaning about 4 cylinders engines? Especially when they offer this level of performance.
The only thing I am not sure of is how these engine will be in 10 years. Most are complex high revving engines and although you could say that for every new car, what will the durability be?
Those who are actually interested in cars, how that level of performance is served up, PHers… it’s not anything to get excited about. It’s not bad. It’s ok. It’s acceptable… generally not what I want from what I’m buying… even less so from something as likely to be £100k plus. I have an acceptable 10yr old car for daily duties and something with a proper engine for April-November. If I didn’t have it the daily would have to be something more interesting.Guys, wouldn’t it be time to stop moaning about 4 cylinders engines? Especially when they offer this level of performance.
The only thing I am not sure of is how these engine will be in 10 years. Most are complex high revving engines and although you could say that for every new car, what will the durability be?
The Merc could never be that car…
Angelo1985 said:
Guys, wouldn’t it be time to stop moaning about 4 cylinders engines? Especially when they offer this level of performance.
It offers £60k 4 series levels of performance but for twice the price and gives that via 4 pot instead of a straight 6, no I think the moaning will continue. Leon R said:
D4rez said:
Leon R said:
Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.
Because in short order this is pretty much what they will be able to offer. They need to start socialising a 4-cylinder in a performance car for emissions reasons. If it even grabs them an extra 10% sales it’s probably worth doing at this point and as I said long term it will be important unless they want to go fully EV ahead of the tech being ready for this type of car.We will gradually see fewer and fewer big cap engines and so expect to see more of this
That's what I figured.
Can’t help thinking Merc has missed out by not developing a c. 2.5-litre V6 turbo battery hybrid, which obvs would’ve had useful mktng synergy with F1.
Sub-200g/km with 450-650bhp, depending on tune / model status, and many torques would be just the ticket for this GT, SLs, E- and C-class AMGs, etc.
A V6 turbo PHEV seems to work OK in those other Sunday racers’ road cars, the Artura and 296 GTB. Why not an AMG GT, too?
Sub-200g/km with 450-650bhp, depending on tune / model status, and many torques would be just the ticket for this GT, SLs, E- and C-class AMGs, etc.
A V6 turbo PHEV seems to work OK in those other Sunday racers’ road cars, the Artura and 296 GTB. Why not an AMG GT, too?
Edited by NGK210 on Tuesday 19th March 14:36
Leon R said:
D4rez said:
Leon R said:
Nobody wanted the C63 with that engine so why would anyone want to pay even more for this.
Because in short order this is pretty much what they will be able to offer. They need to start socialising a 4-cylinder in a performance car for emissions reasons. If it even grabs them an extra 10% sales it’s probably worth doing at this point and as I said long term it will be important unless they want to go fully EV ahead of the tech being ready for this type of car.We will gradually see fewer and fewer big cap engines and so expect to see more of this
That's what I figured.
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff