RE: 2024 Rolls-Royce Spectre | UK Review
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BunkMoreland said:
Teddy Lop said:
Is really silent or does it make those irritating squee noises most battery cars do?
The noises are mandated by the ever glorious EU when a car is driving at "town speeds" (iirc up to 30mph)It doesn't have to be that Radio Control car sound whine…
ajap1979 said:
TinpotTintop said:
Having been in V12 Rollers and Bentleys, part of the experience is knowing there is a beautifully engineered ICE up front, that you have to strain to hear. You try to catch it out, it's like a game. Can't help thinking that an electric powertrain would feel like a bit of an anticlimax, a missing part of the whole experience
How many people who regularly travel in these sort of cars are thinking the same?It's a lovely thing inside and out, but perhaps a little bit preposterous for the roads of the UK in terms of it's size and weight, but its the range that disappoints especially in a 3 tonne 5.5 metre, grand tourer, you'll get about 200 miles, a V12 would be better coupled to a 120ltr fuel tank.
Wills2 said:
It's a lovely thing inside and out, but perhaps a little bit preposterous for the roads of the UK in terms of it's size and weight, but its the range that disappoints especially in a 3 tonne 5.5 metre, grand tourer, you'll get about 200 miles, a V12 would be better coupled to a 120ltr fuel tank.
Why. How far do you think the average journey is for a typical RR owner. Many trundle around Knitsbridge, Chelsea or from home to airport / heli-pad. 200 or so miles will be more than enough. These cars will do 2 - 3,000 miles annually. 
NGK210 said:
In short, this type of EV will be in a permanent state of being CO2-positive.
It can't be that difficult to understand that breakevens change as the grid becomes more renewable, even for cars already produced.Or maybe it is, given how many people post about 'fixed' breakevens.
shalmaneser said:
Are there any cutaways of this machine? Interested to know what is under that enormous bonnet, are there batteries up there? Must be a big space!
Battery is in the floor between the axles.Upfront is the front axle motor and final drive plus electronic controllers, HVAC equipment, cooling equipment, other electronics, etc.
ajap1979 said:
That’s not really how most people approach long trips in an EV. You don’t set off with 100% and run the battery down, then face sitting on a charger for ages. You use the charge curve to make maybe a couple of much shorter stops where the charge rate is optimised. That might sound like a PITA, but it really isn’t in practice.
No HNWI is going to start to consider that for a long journey. They'll just buy something else with a petrol engine with access to fuel everywhere and a 5 minute refuel time. "Luxury must be comfortable, otherwise it's not luxury". - Coco Chanel.
Sulphur Man said:
ajap1979 said:
That’s not really how most people approach long trips in an EV. You don’t set off with 100% and run the battery down, then face sitting on a charger for ages. You use the charge curve to make maybe a couple of much shorter stops where the charge rate is optimised. That might sound like a PITA, but it really isn’t in practice.
No HNWI is going to start to consider that for a long journey. They'll just buy something else with a petrol engine with access to fuel everywhere and a 5 minute refuel time. "Luxury must be comfortable, otherwise it's not luxury". - Coco Chanel.
RRs do not typically get used for long drives across the UK or anywhere else globally.
Nomme de Plum said:
There seems to be a misconception here that the owners will be wanting to do long trips in these, more likely they use the helicopter for those mid distance trips or maybe the PJ.
RRs do not typically get used for long drives across the UK or anywhere else globally.
This is a strange idea that a 300k car buyer automatically also owns a $5m helicopter or a $50m jet. Some do, most don't. They will use and rely on the car like anybody else would.RRs do not typically get used for long drives across the UK or anywhere else globally.
The one thing for sure is that when said buyer wants to go somewhere they're not going to accept a 'no' because the car needs to charge for an hour. It will require a bit of planning by whoever looks after the car.
Edited by CLK-GTR on Monday 25th March 10:47
croyde said:
Good point about range. Made me think.
The only time I've seen a newish Rolls have been in the City of London or around Harrods.
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If most of my driving was pootling around central London, I wouldn't need range. What I would need is more than 500hp, which is what this car provides. The only time I've seen a newish Rolls have been in the City of London or around Harrods.
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jhonn said:
Nomme de Plum said:
RRs do not typically get used for long drives across the UK or anywhere else globally.
That's an interesting statement, do you have a source/statistics to back-up that assertion?I used to live and work in London and knew well a few successful developers with RRs. The cars were renewed every year or two. They'd get Chauffeured to a meeting, the driver would wait with car and then off to next meeting back to office and eventually home in Knightsbridge/Hampstead. The cars rarely left London but when they travelled to the Country place the owner would go by helicopter.
People who are content to spend £400K + on a single, car will have several cars in different places covering their different needs.
I'm not sure why PH posters think that owners of RRs are automatically car enthusiasts. A few maybe, but most are not.
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