RE: Toyota confirms UK pricing for new GR Yaris
Discussion
Misanthroper said:
martin12345 said:
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY.
You realise we’re talking about a Toyota Yaris right? This ins’t a Ferrari or McLaren, it’s a good little hot hatch but to justifying spending anything like that running it is insane.I think owners of these cars get caught up in the hype and are quite delusional about what they’re actually driving, Toyota must be rubbing their hands together.
Not sure I could live with one as a daily with that faux-rally aftermarket-look dashboard. It's like a subtle version of having a big 555 down the side of your Impreza Turbo.
The fact it’s a Yaris is part of the appeal for me, I’m surrounded by people trying to make themselves look as wealthy as possible with their cars, and it’s just a bit sad. Especially having hit middle age, a good sleeper like this (with the addition of Hybrid badges..) let’s you have a little fun, whilst remaining unassuming.
ecsrobin said:
Misanthroper said:
martin12345 said:
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY.
You realise we’re talking about a Toyota Yaris right? This ins’t a Ferrari or McLaren, it’s a good little hot hatch but to justifying spending anything like that running it is insane.I think owners of these cars get caught up in the hype and are quite delusional about what they’re actually driving, Toyota must be rubbing their hands together.
Poor misanthrope. The cars do seem to wind up non-owners. It's like a mixture of resentment and b
hiness. Quite sad really. I think they must be very unhappy people, similar to those who post on the Goodwood thread about the price of a burger and how a Lions charity classic car show sale in a Slough car park is better value and without any traffic congestion while all you mugs are being ripped off at one of the best car events on the planet. I reckon they drive poverty spec Porsches or Hyundai Sonatas (CDX model). 
bencollins4 said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Will these be offered with 0% finance like the first generation were?
These are very popular/very lusted after cars I reckon, so I think that even if Toyota charged £60k for them...they'd still sell in fairness.
Not a chance of 0%. We are living in different times and they don’t need to incentivise this time around. These are very popular/very lusted after cars I reckon, so I think that even if Toyota charged £60k for them...they'd still sell in fairness.
I had the previous generation model pull out in front of me from a side street last week, and much to my surprise he slid it sideways! I was genuinely impressed and it put a smile on my face seeing it do that. Plus I wasn't expecting it to be as playful as that with it being 4WD to be honest either. So that gave me a taste of how much fun these can be for sure.
cerb4.5lee said:
Yes and I guess that Toyota are just chancing their arm a bit with the popularity of the previous generation model.
It's like that with many things people complain about being too expensive. We do it ourselves. No matter how expensive people keep paying or even over bidding. Just like with petrol. Oh my, such a big problem, those rising prices. How many miles less are we driving as a nation? 0 miles. People don't understand that voting happens, besides during elections, with your wallet.cerb4.5lee said:
Yes and I guess that Toyota are just chancing their arm a bit with the popularity of the previous generation model.
I had the previous generation model pull out in front of me from a side street last week, and much to my surprise he slid it sideways! I was genuinely impressed and it put a smile on my face seeing it do that. Plus I wasn't expecting it to be as playful as that with it being 4WD to be honest either. So that gave me a taste of how much fun these can be for sure.
Come on Lee get a drive in one! I’ve offered before but I’m only up your way every now and again. I had the previous generation model pull out in front of me from a side street last week, and much to my surprise he slid it sideways! I was genuinely impressed and it put a smile on my face seeing it do that. Plus I wasn't expecting it to be as playful as that with it being 4WD to be honest either. So that gave me a taste of how much fun these can be for sure.
I often have a slide on the way to work, junction, give it some welly and it just slides out and then grips and you’re off same response wet or dry.
Unreal said:
ecsrobin said:
Misanthroper said:
martin12345 said:
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY.
You realise we’re talking about a Toyota Yaris right? This ins’t a Ferrari or McLaren, it’s a good little hot hatch but to justifying spending anything like that running it is insane.I think owners of these cars get caught up in the hype and are quite delusional about what they’re actually driving, Toyota must be rubbing their hands together.
Poor misanthrope. The cars do seem to wind up non-owners. It's like a mixture of resentment and b
hiness. Quite sad really. I think they must be very unhappy people, similar to those who post on the Goodwood thread about the price of a burger and how a Lions charity classic car show sale in a Slough car park is better value and without any traffic congestion while all you mugs are being ripped off at one of the best car events on the planet. I reckon they drive poverty spec Porsches or Hyundai Sonatas (CDX model). I'm not a fan and don't care who likes what.
And absolutely nothing wrong with "poverty spec" Porsches - they are often cracking things to drive. But of course you knew that....
I don't think the pricing is totally insane, but it is higher than I expected, though I appreciate the compound inflation since the launch of the original hasn't helped.
It does make the first one seem like a bargain, though I though it was very good value for what you got anyway.
Would I pay £45k for one? No, I don't think so, and I also think the new dash is a big step backwards.
The "£XYZ for a Yaris" comments should really have died off by now. Reminds me of the old joke about a young man taking his gran out in the 911 Turbo he's just bought, and her saying "it's very nice, dear, maybe when you're doing better you'll be able to afford something with 4 doors".
It does make the first one seem like a bargain, though I though it was very good value for what you got anyway.
Would I pay £45k for one? No, I don't think so, and I also think the new dash is a big step backwards.
The "£XYZ for a Yaris" comments should really have died off by now. Reminds me of the old joke about a young man taking his gran out in the 911 Turbo he's just bought, and her saying "it's very nice, dear, maybe when you're doing better you'll be able to afford something with 4 doors".
911Spanker said:
Unreal said:
ecsrobin said:
Misanthroper said:
martin12345 said:
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY.
You realise we’re talking about a Toyota Yaris right? This ins’t a Ferrari or McLaren, it’s a good little hot hatch but to justifying spending anything like that running it is insane.I think owners of these cars get caught up in the hype and are quite delusional about what they’re actually driving, Toyota must be rubbing their hands together.
Poor misanthrope. The cars do seem to wind up non-owners. It's like a mixture of resentment and b
hiness. Quite sad really. I think they must be very unhappy people, similar to those who post on the Goodwood thread about the price of a burger and how a Lions charity classic car show sale in a Slough car park is better value and without any traffic congestion while all you mugs are being ripped off at one of the best car events on the planet. I reckon they drive poverty spec Porsches or Hyundai Sonatas (CDX model). I'm not a fan and don't care who likes what.
And absolutely nothing wrong with "poverty spec" Porsches - they are often cracking things to drive. But of course you knew that....
I've got a few 90s Porsches, but I only own top of the range models. If I had to drive a 2.5 Boxster instead of a 3.2S I'm sure I'd be bitter. I'd probably claim the 2.5 was 'sweeter ' though. And feel the need to tell people the GRY is 'just a Yaris'. Funny thing, jealousy.
ecsrobin said:
bwoah said:
Ridiculous price increase. I guess if they sell them then fair play to them. Was hoping for a 35kish price so that it would drop the price of the first gen but no chance of that now. First gens will probably go up in value if anything.
Considering the current RRP for the mk1 is £36k (not that you can get one new) that was wishful thinking to expect it to come in under that! I wouldn’t wait and line up etc… so I never bought one then.
I paid the list price for it. I know that the 1st time it would be registered had the on the road charges etc - so I overpaid a bit.
But then - where else could I get a ‘new’ GRY - in the colour I wanted - I saw the shipping wrappers come off it, it’s a new car.
There are a couple of these around, late December ‘new cars’.
I’m glad I went the way of the Mk 1 and just got on with it.
I agree with the other poster who mentioned the GT3 being the only rival on track, my GT4 (which I handed back on getting the GRY) is not the same pace in the real world on greasy, pock marked B roads…
Anyway - point being, you can nearly get a new Mk 1…!
cerb4.5lee said:
Yes and I guess that Toyota are just chancing their arm a bit with the popularity of the previous generation model.
I had the previous generation model pull out in front of me from a side street last week, and much to my surprise he slid it sideways! I was genuinely impressed and it put a smile on my face seeing it do that. Plus I wasn't expecting it to be as playful as that with it being 4WD to be honest either. So that gave me a taste of how much fun these can be for sure.
They are certainly fun in the right environment, Lee! Had fun playing 'catch' in Wales last weekend with some mates. Not a problem keeping up with and getting away from some serious cars. Not just fast, but seriously fun when extended. I had the previous generation model pull out in front of me from a side street last week, and much to my surprise he slid it sideways! I was genuinely impressed and it put a smile on my face seeing it do that. Plus I wasn't expecting it to be as playful as that with it being 4WD to be honest either. So that gave me a taste of how much fun these can be for sure.
I’ve had mine a year and a half having totally lucked it on a cancelled order after just popping in to look at one whilst passing the local Toyota dealer.
Fantastic car all round and just about does everything - road trips, grocery shops, ferrying people around - the lot. Drive it more than the RS and will be applying for the ballot for a MKII - really want the Ogier Edition!
Fantastic car all round and just about does everything - road trips, grocery shops, ferrying people around - the lot. Drive it more than the RS and will be applying for the ballot for a MKII - really want the Ogier Edition!
InitialDave said:
I don't think the pricing is totally insane, but it is higher than I expected, though I appreciate the compound inflation since the launch of the original hasn't helped.
It does make the first one seem like a bargain, though I though it was very good value for what you got anyway.
Would I pay £45k for one? No, I don't think so, and I also think the new dash is a big step backwards.
The "£XYZ for a Yaris" comments should really have died off by now. Reminds me of the old joke about a young man taking his gran out in the 911 Turbo he's just bought, and her saying "it's very nice, dear, maybe when you're doing better you'll be able to afford something with 4 doors".
I know people have experienced things like utility and food price increases but most won't have seen what's happened to big ticket expenditure such as building costs. That £30K kitchen extension you got a quote for in 2020 will be closer to £100K today. They make the price inflation on the GRY look reasonable. As I posted earlier in the thread, people need to look at what else you can get for £44K. Unbelievably, a Golf R base is over £50K. You can get that to £60K with add ons. Take a look at these prices! It does make the first one seem like a bargain, though I though it was very good value for what you got anyway.
Would I pay £45k for one? No, I don't think so, and I also think the new dash is a big step backwards.
The "£XYZ for a Yaris" comments should really have died off by now. Reminds me of the old joke about a young man taking his gran out in the 911 Turbo he's just bought, and her saying "it's very nice, dear, maybe when you're doing better you'll be able to afford something with 4 doors".
https://www.bmw.co.uk/en/configurator.html
The £XYZ for a Yaris comments are either spectacularly ill-informed for supposedly knowledgeable car enthusiasts or a simple wind up. Both are quite sad.
Unreal said:
911Spanker said:
Unreal said:
ecsrobin said:
Misanthroper said:
martin12345 said:
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY.
You realise we’re talking about a Toyota Yaris right? This ins’t a Ferrari or McLaren, it’s a good little hot hatch but to justifying spending anything like that running it is insane.I think owners of these cars get caught up in the hype and are quite delusional about what they’re actually driving, Toyota must be rubbing their hands together.
Poor misanthrope. The cars do seem to wind up non-owners. It's like a mixture of resentment and b
hiness. Quite sad really. I think they must be very unhappy people, similar to those who post on the Goodwood thread about the price of a burger and how a Lions charity classic car show sale in a Slough car park is better value and without any traffic congestion while all you mugs are being ripped off at one of the best car events on the planet. I reckon they drive poverty spec Porsches or Hyundai Sonatas (CDX model). I'm not a fan and don't care who likes what.
And absolutely nothing wrong with "poverty spec" Porsches - they are often cracking things to drive. But of course you knew that....
I've got a few 90s Porsches, but I only own top of the range models. If I had to drive a 2.5 Boxster instead of a 3.2S I'm sure I'd be bitter. I'd probably claim the 2.5 was 'sweeter ' though. And feel the need to tell people the GRY is 'just a Yaris'. Funny thing, jealousy.
If you can't see how "top of the range" is not always better, there's no hope.
Carry on your merry way.
Firebobby said:
£40k for a Toyota shopping trolley! The world's gone mad. These companies just take the p**s. Of course they'll sell them all cuss the world is full of empty heads!
Shopping trolley:
Yaris:
FYI
https://www.specsavers.co.uk/book/location
ecsrobin said:
Mad Maximus said:
I wish our wages were anything close to this sort of staggering inflation. Fortyfivegrand lol.
Could always get an Astra. 
And people still referring to it as "Just a Yaris" are either stupid or playing the Troll card.
Lets compare this to the Civic Type R.
One have a Bespoke body unique to that model and designed purely because it makes the Rally car better. The Civic doesn't.
One has a bespoke AWD system with trick front and rear Diffs. The Civic doesn't
One has a Carbon Fibre roof. The Civic doesn't.
One is built in it's own unique factory and production line. The Civic isn't.
Yet, what? It should be half the price of the Civic?
martin12345 said:
TBH I don't care if prices hold up or not
a) I load of people seem to have bought them speculatively to resell to make money (flippers) and I don't care about them
b) I'm keeping mine for another 4 or 5 years till it is 8 or 9 years old by which time it will have pushing 100k miles and be worth "not much" but spread over the 7 years of my ownership the average depreciation per year won't be awful and I shouldn't have any "horror" bills as it will be covered by the 10 years of warranty
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY. There is a reason why it handles & brakes so brilliantly and it isn't because they fitted cheap parts. The quality of parts fitted are what you would expect to find on a £100,000 car, not a £35,000 car. The Mk1 GRY was a total bargain for what it was but it isn't the cheapest to run given the wear and cost of consumables and the 6000 mile service interval. Not a complaint. Just a reflction of reality.
Oh, and try not to buckle a Circuit Pack wheel in a pot hole. They were £1500 each from Toyota although they now seem out of stock (and they are £1000 each for a 2nd hand one off eBay as a result)
Of course should you be unfortunate to buckle a wheel in a pothole, your local council will be liable for the full cost of a replacement, so I wouldn't worry to much!a) I load of people seem to have bought them speculatively to resell to make money (flippers) and I don't care about them
b) I'm keeping mine for another 4 or 5 years till it is 8 or 9 years old by which time it will have pushing 100k miles and be worth "not much" but spread over the 7 years of my ownership the average depreciation per year won't be awful and I shouldn't have any "horror" bills as it will be covered by the 10 years of warranty
The biggest running cost after depreciation I think is brake pads and discs. So far I need a set of pads per year and I'll need 1 or 2 pair of front discs at £1200 a pair before I'm finished with the car. I don't think many people understand the quality (and hence cost) of the suspension and brake components fitted on a GRY. There is a reason why it handles & brakes so brilliantly and it isn't because they fitted cheap parts. The quality of parts fitted are what you would expect to find on a £100,000 car, not a £35,000 car. The Mk1 GRY was a total bargain for what it was but it isn't the cheapest to run given the wear and cost of consumables and the 6000 mile service interval. Not a complaint. Just a reflction of reality.
Oh, and try not to buckle a Circuit Pack wheel in a pot hole. They were £1500 each from Toyota although they now seem out of stock (and they are £1000 each for a 2nd hand one off eBay as a result)
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