Free dashcams issued by police for Operation Snap

[jhonn]

Timberwolf said:

Interesting info...

That's clarified a few things for me - thanks for posting that up.

[Terminator X]

Super Sonic said:

Terminator X said:

Super Sonic said:

Terminator X said:

Police do your job. Anyone helping them out is a feckless tt imho

TX.

Do you think this applies to all crime?

Yes.

What other crime involves people sending dashcam footage to "help"?

TX.

I wasn't asking about crime caught on dachcam. I was asking if you thought this applies to ALL crime, because you stated 'ANYONE helping them...'

This is a topic about sending in dashcam footage though hence my comment.

On the subject of all crime I do think that the police should be left to do their job. If that involves say an interview (perhaps what you are driving at?) then yes "help them out" but I see that different to busy bodies sending in dashcam footage.

TX.

[5s Alive]

J4CKO said:

Ahh, more tragic individuals desperate to arrive at the location of their next masterpiece.

The thing with a dashcam is to fit it and forget its there, if you have an accident you have the footage, if you are ranting at someone shouting "DASH CAM" whilst furiously pointing at it you are probably someone who is too invested in the whole thing having saved up to get one and are now ready to take on the world even if it means contriving incidents.

Last year I passed the scene of a fairly serious accident involving three vehicles. One ended up behind a hedge without any indication of how it might have got there.

"I'll review the dashcam footage".

The hardwired power supply had failed nearly three months previously.

It produces a fairly loud noise on power-up and I just hadn't noticed that it had stopped.

[coppice]

I loathe dashcams . We already have 5 million CCTV cameras (more per capita than China ) and now half the bloody country is so paranoid and/or has such a burning desire to grass up their fellow citizens that they feel duty bound to film them . This on a road network which is one of the safest in the world .

I despair .

[Evanivitch]

coppice said:

I loathe dashcams . We already have 5 million CCTV cameras (more per capita than China ) and now half the bloody country is so paranoid and/or has such a burning desire to grass up their fellow citizens that they feel duty bound to film them . This on a road network which is one of the safest in the world .

I despair .

Not had someone bump and run leaving you with an insurance bill then? Polite society is dead, so why let the aholes get away with it?

[Honourable Dead Snark]

If they ever introduce a similar scheme near me a lot of private hire and Amazon delivery drivers will be losing their jobs.

From what I have seen dashcam footage doesn’t usually appear to be used as evidence for speeding penalties, is that right? If so, then I don’t think I’d have much to be concerned about.

[Yahonza]

TheInternet said:

Free dashcams to be offered to Hull-area motorists to record driving offences

I don't have time to write a full post on this but some bullet points to get you started:

Good
Nothing to hide nothing to fear
Stasi
Snitches
Cuts
Real policing
DCWs
Cycling nazis

A missing consonant there surely?

[tim jb]

This is why so many stop doing anything productive and contributing. Why bother working to support illegal immigration, failed public services and infrastructire, unaffordable house and car prices for financial scraps in the form of low stagnant salaries? All while dealing with the potential legal risks of driving a car to work? People stop working and the government end up paying for their upkeep. Then they're publishing articles questioning why millions of working age are 'on the sick'.

[someday]

A friend got a letter when a cyclist said he had passed too closely. It was a few years ago I think they sent photos of the offence and it was obvious that he was half way across the road and had given him loads of room. He showed it to a policeman we know who could see nothing wrong so he called them up and said please send me all the evidence I want to plead not guilty. An hour layer they called and said no further action will be taken. Maybe they just want the money from the courses

[James6112]

tim jb said:

This is why so many stop doing anything productive and contributing. Why bother working to support illegal immigration, failed public services and infrastructire, unaffordable house and car prices for financial scraps in the form of low stagnant salaries? All while dealing with the potential legal risks of driving a car to work? People stop working and the government end up paying for their upkeep. Then they're publishing articles questioning why millions of working age are 'on the sick'.

Very Dramatic
Daily Mail?

[S13_Alan]

coppice said:

I loathe dashcams . We already have 5 million CCTV cameras (more per capita than China ) and now half the bloody country is so paranoid and/or has such a burning desire to grass up their fellow citizens that they feel duty bound to film them . This on a road network which is one of the safest in the world .

I despair .

Ironically I hate them too, but I now have one.

Two years ago some guy decided they'd like to be in my lane on the motorway while I was already there and then lied afterwards. I've just today got a court date to go see if I might convince a judge of some sort just enough to get my NCB bonus back. For all the good it might do given insurance prices, it's more about principal now I guess.

Had I a camera it would have been resolved way before now - it would have been impossible for him to lie about it.

Maybe spend a minute being annoyed at dishonest people too?

[coppice]

My nephew was a dashcam warrior . He was so incensed by the behaviour of an artic in a contraflow that he made it his business to film as much as possible on his dashcam . Very pleased with himself , he presented the evidence of his good citizenship (as defined by Orwell , anyway ) to the police . They watched the footage and then formally cautioned him for driving like a tt in his vigilante role.

I tried, and failed to keep a straight face ....

[kestonian]

coppice said:

I loathe dashcams . We already have 5 million CCTV cameras (more per capita than China ) and now half the bloody country is so paranoid and/or has such a burning desire to grass up their fellow citizens that they feel duty bound to film them . This on a road network which is one of the safest in the world .

I despair .

The more CCTV per capita is not correct.

I think I’m right in saying that at one point there were more in the City of London per capita, mainly due to small number of residents, but those days are long passed.

China has way more camera surveillance of traffic and pedestrians.

[Gastons_Revenge]

kestonian said:

The more CCTV per capita is not correct.

IIRC that misleading statistic also included cameras installed by businesses to dissuade theft etc, hardly indicative of the UK being some 1984 surveillance state.

[Lotobear]

coppice said:

I loathe dashcams . We already have 5 million CCTV cameras (more per capita than China ) and now half the bloody country is so paranoid and/or has such a burning desire to grass up their fellow citizens that they feel duty bound to film them . This on a road network which is one of the safest in the world .

I despair .

Absolutely this.

[croyde]

Funny that when a real crime is committed all the CCTV coverage is rubbish.

I've been stopped in my car/bike by patrol cars but as they didn't have cameras or a special speedo, they would just have a chat with me.

So how come someone's camera from Halfords can be used as reliable evidence.

[Wills2]

Gastons_Revenge said:

IIRC that misleading statistic also included cameras installed by businesses to dissuade theft etc, hardly indicative of the UK being some 1984 surveillance state.

I'd say we are a surveillance state but for all the wrong reasons, we're not preventing crime by doing it either as violent crime is going through the roof, it appears the ECHR agrees.

https://dpglaw.co.uk/european-court-of-human-right...

The Chinese companies like it as well

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/oct/29/br...

And there is more to come

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-bulking-up-spyi...

[Baldchap]

I'd imagine they can't prosecute for speed related offences due to a lack of calibrated equipment, but prosecuting more antisocial or dangerous driving can't be a bad thing surely?

[vonhosen]

croyde said:

I've been stopped in my car/bike by patrol cars but as they didn't have cameras or a special speedo, they would just have a chat with me.

But they didn't have to do that, they just chose to.
Plenty of people reported for traffic offences without camera equipped vehicles or calibrated speedos.

[vonhosen]

Baldchap said:

I'd imagine they can't prosecute for speed related offences due to a lack of calibrated equipment, but prosecuting more antisocial or dangerous driving can't be a bad thing surely?

A calibrated speedo is not a pre-requisite to report for a speeding offence.
They won't do very small margins without a calibrated device, but for larger margins they can/have (for evidence from Police officers).
For submissions from the public they are unlikely to look at speeding offences unless very significant.