RE: Citroen DS3 1.6 VTi | Shed of the Week

RE: Citroen DS3 1.6 VTi | Shed of the Week

Friday 29th March

Citroen DS3 1.6 VTi | Shed of the Week

Citroen's Mini rival had a lot going for it at launch - 15 years later, does it make for good shed?


Welcome, or indeed bienvenu, to another Shed of the Week debutant, this Citroen DS3 1.6 VTi. Shed has had his eye on this car for the last few weeks. 

As you may recall Citroen launched the DS3 at the 2009 Geneva show as a customisable ‘luxury supermini’ that they hoped might chip into the Mini’s runaway sales success. You could have it with a range of engines, or one of them anyway. The one being claimed here is the 1.6-litre THP direct injection turbo. With leather and a fancy stereo, Shed reckons that makes this car a DSport. 

Aided by a low curb weight of 1,090kg, the 155hp 1.6 would propel our shed through the 0-62mph run in 7.3 seconds, well ahead of the Mini Cooper and not that far behind the Cooper S. The maximum torque of 177lb ft chimed in from just 1,400rpm and kept on coming until 4,000rpm so you didn’t have to give it the berries to get it moving along at a smart rate. The official combined fuel consumption was 42mpg. High 30s were easy to achieve in the real world and the road tax bill today should be a very reasonable-sounding £180 a year, although as usual Shed takes no responsibility for the accuracy of that figure because he’s not very good with websites. 

The six-speed manual gearbox was very nice, much nicer than the five-speeders in many DS3s, and the overall drive was surprisingly refined with nicely weighted steering, plenty of grip, a ride that was sweeter than a Mini’s and powerful, feelsome braking. You could turn the ESP off too. Driving dynamics wise, some reckoned that a sporty DS 3 was the best small French car since the 205 GTI, quite a statement considering the chassis’s humble C3 heritage, albeit with tweaked suspension settings and a lower stance. One well-known UK mag hailed the 1.6 THP ‘comfortably the most convincing performance car from Citroen in a generation’. 

All of which makes you wonder why this 94,000-mile example has been hanging around on PH Classifieds for a few weeks now despite its appealing £1,995 price tag. Maybe there’s an inbuilt distrust of small French cars, some sort of fear that they might crumple when struck a glancing blow by a passing bluebottle. In fact, the DS3 had a five-star crash rating. Maybe folk are thinking it’s got a 1.2 or a diesel engine, not realising it’s actually got the THP motor. Or maybe they are realising it has got the THP motor and giving it a swerve because of that. There have been reliability issues with some of these. Misfiring could be a thing because of dodgy coils or insufficient fuel pressure caused by insufficient fuel pumps. Pre-2014 cars like this one could also have problems with stretched timing chains and heavy oil consumption. 

If Shed was going in for this particular car he’d be wanting to check that it really does have the 155hp THP engine. Then he’d want to look at the paperwork. The MOT history plus its location in Manchester suggests it may have had a tough life crashing around busted city streets. It’s had a good bit of suspension work done in its life and the last test in December suggests it’ll need some more doing in the future, specifically the lower front suspension bushes and maybe one rear brake disc. As noted earlier, the brakes are very good but the pads aren’t cheap to replace. 

DS3 interior storage space was quite poor, as were the cabin plastics. Button surfaces rubbed off over time, glovebox lids became disillusioned and fell off, as did the centre armrests, and ignition keys broke. On the plus side, parts were cheap, the seats were big and comfy, and thanks to the extra space that Citroen put between the C3’s axles the DS3 was a good bit longer than the Mini and therefore a good bit roomier in the back. The boot was a lot bigger than the Mini’s too, though still hardly large at 285 litres.

Shed thinks the DS3’s looks have held up well over the last 15 years. He likes the LED strip lights inset into the front wings and the abbreviated B-pillar feature that, depending on your paint colour choices, could either be striking or stealthy. He isn’t so sure about the heart motif on the driver’s side carpet, although when it was rotated through 180 degrees in front of him a couple of things sprang to attention, one of them being a mental image of the postmistress from behind. 

Shed’s rug-based observations in this regard led him to surmise that the last owner of this DS was a member of the fairer sex. Back in the day ‘lady owner’ was something that Shed always included in any car ad (whether it was true or not) because people thought it meant the car had had an easy life. Nowadays however with so many ladies looking scarier than the bouncers on Shed’s village pub door on bingo night he doesn’t bother putting that in any more. 


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Moss Feen

Original Poster:

234 posts

164 months

Friday 29th March
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Ive seen worse than this its a Maybe

J0021365

3 posts

9 months

Friday 29th March
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Scenic location for the shoot😎

Wren-went

794 posts

38 months

Friday 29th March
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Looks practically same as ours but ours is a 63 plate and all black and it's the Dsport+.

Had the same Engine in a 10 plate R56 cooper S and like the DS3 had no problems with the timing chain as the oil was charged maximum of every 5000 miles, to say the same Engine is 20bhp down on the Cooper S our DS3 Thp seems just as quick.

The car in the add is an early Dsport Thp so it's only.150bhp.obviously 5bhp doesn't make much difference think ours been a later car is lower emissions, whatever for £2 grand they are brilliant car , after 2 minis don't think I'll buy another but will a DS3 it's the Mrs car really but whenever I get the chance I drive it instead of my Saab 93 sportwagon.



MightyBadger

1,980 posts

50 months

Friday 29th March
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The amount of broken ones you see always puts me off these.

VSKeith

744 posts

47 months

Friday 29th March
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KERB weight!

(Nice shed too)


SteveTTT

112 posts

136 months

Friday 29th March
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One for the Ladies, I’m thinking. DSs always lacked bloke appeal imo, unlike the “proper” original Godesses.

200Plus Club

10,765 posts

278 months

Friday 29th March
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J0021365 said:
Scenic location for the shoot??
The potato camera used looks a bit glarey too! Needs a good wipe.

mcmigo

123 posts

153 months

Friday 29th March
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Lovely cars. Great looking things, go well and a bit different. This looks like a good example for the money.



Jordie Barretts sock

4,137 posts

19 months

Friday 29th March
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Decent little car that. Hopefully no closeted skeletons.

Its Just Adz

14,096 posts

209 months

Friday 29th March
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200Plus Club said:
The potato camera used looks a bit glarey too! Needs a good wipe.
Just stick it next to the bins, will look good there.
And put the warranty sign on the roof that always scratches it.

These are reasons why it's hanging round the classifieds.

LotusOmega375D

7,630 posts

153 months

Friday 29th March
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Had a sporty DS3 hire car in Germany back in the day. Maxed it out on a section of derestricted Autobahn. Other memory was how cramped it was. I had a passenger with a suitcase. The only way we could get it in was to open the full length sunroof and lower it onto the back seat. I did enjoy it though.

njw1

2,071 posts

111 months

Friday 29th March
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J0021365 said:
Scenic location for the shoot??
My thoughts exactly, if they couldn't be arsed to drive for a few minutes to somewhere a bit more pleasant to take the photos then what else couldn't they be arsed to do, like the rear light....

georgeyboy12345

3,517 posts

35 months

Friday 29th March
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Might as well set fire to 2 grand, it’ll be better value.

These have the Prince engine, which suffer from catastrophic timing chain failure, high pressure fuel pump failure, poor fuel economy, high oil consumption, crankshaft issues, oil seal issues, thermostat and other sensor issues. Crappily, cheaply made engines that are full of plastic. They’ll remap to 190 bhp though.

Also this car is for sale in the most dodgy part of Manchester. The most dodgy part of an already dodgy, crime ridden city. Cheetham Hill is a part of town regularly subjected to raids by the police on places dealing in counterfeit goods, tax dodging, modern slavery, organised crime and worse!


sosidge

687 posts

215 months

Friday 29th March
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Styling has aged well, looks better now than it did at launch (that blade behind the B-pillar was a bit much at the time but the number of truly grotesque designs on the road now make it look sharp in comparison).

A few decent engine options out there and a nice spec should give something decent to drive with classy street presence.

Not sure about this one as it sounds like it is at the end of its life. But would be a good buy in better mechanical condition.

cerb4.5lee

30,664 posts

180 months

Friday 29th March
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The car isn't for me, however the joke about the drivers side floor mat and the postmistress did make me smile though thanks Mr Shed! biggrin

POIDH

812 posts

65 months

Friday 29th March
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Maybe it's a falsehood, but I'm always nervous of Citroen's of this age. Too many stories of issues, particularly with engines, including my colleague who had a DS2 grenade itself at 40k/3.5 years old

Arsecati

2,311 posts

117 months

Friday 29th March
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Interesting little puddle jumper for the kids, but only at half the price.

evojam

568 posts

160 months

Friday 29th March
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We've been running one for the past 5 years,funky styling and handles well but ours has been plagued with various engine issues..most recent was core plug failure at 57,000 miles which rapidily dumped the coolant into the sump creating a lovely caramel goop inside the engine.I rebuilt the engine myself,new core plugs and a skim,gasket set etc the machine shop I took it to for the skim and re-core said they'd literally done hundreds of these Prince engines,it's ok for now but for how long...I really do dislike these engines!

bearman68

4,658 posts

132 months

Friday 29th March
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Yeah, it was my understanding that the engine was a bag of spanners, and the chain drive on it was unusually suspect. I've avoided these engines in any guise for exactly that reason.
A couple of my customers have also had issues with the gearbox main shaft snapping in addition to the poor engine.

Still apart from suspect engines, and suspect gearboxes, and interior parts that fall apart, I suppose it's OK.
Hard to buy anything reliable from PSA during this period, except for the little 1.4 diesel.

the_hood

771 posts

194 months

Friday 29th March
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georgeyboy12345 said:
Might as well set fire to 2 grand, it’ll be better value.

These have the Prince engine, which suffer from catastrophic timing chain failure, high pressure fuel pump failure, poor fuel economy, high oil consumption, crankshaft issues, oil seal issues, thermostat and other sensor issues. Crappily, cheaply made engines that are full of plastic. They’ll remap to 190 bhp though.

Also this car is for sale in the most dodgy part of Manchester. The most dodgy part of an already dodgy, crime ridden city. Cheetham Hill is a part of town regularly subjected to raids by the police on places dealing in counterfeit goods, tax dodging, modern slavery, organised crime and worse!
This!!