RE: So long Jaguar F-Type, auf wiedersehen Audi TT
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Also..The MK1 TT was a design ICON. The MK2, was the difficult 2nd album, and the MK3 just steadied a sinking ship.
The MK1 will be long remembered after the jag is gone. For me Jag's are just so forgettable these days. However I'd take this JAG over the MK3. Even if the interior is miles behind the TT.
The MK1 will be long remembered after the jag is gone. For me Jag's are just so forgettable these days. However I'd take this JAG over the MK3. Even if the interior is miles behind the TT.
yogiguitar said:
ive always loved how the f-type looks but given that its made with aluminium i wonder howcome its so heavy! 1780 kg! thats alot for a sports car that was supposed to compete with the porsche 911
It has certainly blobbed-up over the years - a 2013 V8 R wasn't much over 1600kg. 911s aren't much better 1550kg bogo, nearly 1800kg for a spec'd up Turbo...
I think they’ve chosen these two for the article quite simply because both are being phased out at about the same time after long careers…. Not because they are supposed to be rivals.
Personally, I wouldn’t even look at the TT. F-Type all day long - I could put up with the quality issues for a car with so much character (engines in particular)
Personally, I wouldn’t even look at the TT. F-Type all day long - I could put up with the quality issues for a car with so much character (engines in particular)
pb8g09 said:
1Tom1985 said:
What will the hairdressers drive now with the Audi TT gone?
And with the 4 cylinder blower about as interesting as an oil tanker, and handled like one.
The residuals speak for themselves.
This is definitely one car that should have been put on the scrap heap a long time ago.
Which TT have you driven?And with the 4 cylinder blower about as interesting as an oil tanker, and handled like one.
The residuals speak for themselves.
This is definitely one car that should have been put on the scrap heap a long time ago.
Big fan of both cars and sad to see their time come.
Audi TT was always criminally underrated especially the final gen which was a great car. People talking about how quick a Yaris GR is on B road should certainly try a TTRS which is just bonkers fast.
F-Type is a used bargain which makes it a hero in my books.
Audi TT was always criminally underrated especially the final gen which was a great car. People talking about how quick a Yaris GR is on B road should certainly try a TTRS which is just bonkers fast.
F-Type is a used bargain which makes it a hero in my books.
What a fantastic piece of writing! This captures the extraordinary point in car history we are at perfectly. When these, and dozens of cars like them, are all gone we will miss the flaws, the imperfections and the sheer visceral experience. If you haven't yet bought the ICE stupidity you always promised yourself you would - do it now. However flawed EV maybe the writing is clearly on the wall.
I can't say I have any strong feelings about the TT going, it was always an "imagine" car over substance so not really in my wheel house, but the death of the F Type does mark the end of the hairy chested more power than chassis sort of fun that TVR used to deliver and Jaguar picked up the baton on with the XKR.
As others have mentioned in all sorts of objective ways a 911 is, and always has been, better than an F Type and the XKR before it but I doubt anyone has laughed so much they've had to wipe tears from their eyes driving one in the same way I end up doing every time I give it some in any of those 5.0 supercharged Jaguars.
As others have mentioned in all sorts of objective ways a 911 is, and always has been, better than an F Type and the XKR before it but I doubt anyone has laughed so much they've had to wipe tears from their eyes driving one in the same way I end up doing every time I give it some in any of those 5.0 supercharged Jaguars.
tonyshepp said:
Where’s all this rubbish about build quality of the `Ftype coming from , 15 months into a 21 plate P450 Ftype and no troubles with either the car or the dealership. Clarkson has had masses of exotica yet he’s bought a used Ftype and is really enjoying its reliability.
Rubbish? On my part 6 years of ownership and obviously Baileythecake had similar experiences too. As I said in my post mine was an early car and I understand later cars were better in this regard. What I will say is that my F-Type whilst great when it worked was the most unreliable car I’ve owned since the £450 1982 Metro I had when I was 19.Aside from regular servicing on the button my car had £2700 worth of failures covered by the extended warranty (diff seal, two battery failures in 12 months, central rising vent motor failure, headlight washers that failed twice in 2 years) and, erm nearly £8000 that wasn’t including 4 failed injectors that were seized in the cylinder head, coolant pipe leaks that were a bugger to sort, sat nav failure with the MMS, electric seat motor failure, folding electric mirrors that refused to unfold so I could actually see behind me.. I could go on…). As for Jaguar main dealers, the rules on PH don’t allow naming and shaming but the first I used is no longer in business and the second having helpfully delivered my car back home after warranty work on a flatbed slightly less helpfully didn’t remember to put the coolant reservoir cap back on before they did so. Good job I popped the bonnet before I went for a drive…
I’m sure your car will be better, as I think they used early owners for product testing and improvement. Although despite all the above I don’t have regrets overall about buying it I wouldn’t have another. Good luck with the car, and maybe don’t be so quick to pass judgement on others that have less positive experiences than you?
Gecko1978 said:
I keep looking at an F type as a 3rd car for weekends and when life is a bit boring. But I wonder for my 40k budget if there are better choices i like the TTS in coupe form too but at this price BMW 840 pops up as do older AMV8S AND 911S
If I had 40k to spend. It would be an R8 for me.I do like the F-Type and the TT but I would be looking at 25k and 10K cars respectively I think.
Gecko1978 said:
I keep looking at an F type as a 3rd car for weekends and when life is a bit boring. But I wonder for my 40k budget if there are better choices i like the TTS in coupe form too but at this price BMW 840 pops up as do older AMV8S AND 911S
This amused me, a TT, F type or 840 as a weekend car.When there are TVRs, Mustangs, 911s, Caymans, Boxters, Lotus, Caterhams etc etc etc available.
Maccmike8 said:
Gecko1978 said:
I keep looking at an F type as a 3rd car for weekends and when life is a bit boring. But I wonder for my 40k budget if there are better choices i like the TTS in coupe form too but at this price BMW 840 pops up as do older AMV8S AND 911S
This amused me, a TT, F type or 840 as a weekend car.When there are TVRs, Mustangs, 911s, Caymans, Boxters, Lotus, Caterhams etc etc etc available.
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