RE: Porsche Cayenne S | Shed of the Week
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Stuff like this for me is the personification of the spirit of SOTW. Something that cost the earth new and now could bankrupt you and is almost being given away but provides so much metal for your money. Wow, what a car. Also love the advert, with its "do you feel lucky" vibes. Better to be tongue in cheek with a car like this than promise the world....
A work colleague had this exact model and gave him very good service during the 2 years I worked with him when he had the car. No, its not a turbo and not that fast, but I suspect the feel good factor driving one will compensate for that. Bravo Shed.
A work colleague had this exact model and gave him very good service during the 2 years I worked with him when he had the car. No, its not a turbo and not that fast, but I suspect the feel good factor driving one will compensate for that. Bravo Shed.
GeniusOfLove said:
Buy the turbo or don't bother.
The fuel in to performance out ratio on these old mid powered V8 elephants is pathetic, you're getting V12 supercar economy for very uninspiring performance, and in day to day use the turbo will use very little more fuel but have the performance there if you want it.
IIRC the turbo didn’t have the bore wear issue either. The fuel in to performance out ratio on these old mid powered V8 elephants is pathetic, you're getting V12 supercar economy for very uninspiring performance, and in day to day use the turbo will use very little more fuel but have the performance there if you want it.
Where/when does a Shed become a Brave Pill and vice versa ?
For me this is a Brave Pill whereas a Shed is something more modest with low running costs that you run into the ground over a number of years spending nearly nothing.
Just a thought
As to the car, not my kind of thing in any way; big, SUV, ugly but each to their own
For me this is a Brave Pill whereas a Shed is something more modest with low running costs that you run into the ground over a number of years spending nearly nothing.
Just a thought
As to the car, not my kind of thing in any way; big, SUV, ugly but each to their own
martin12345 said:
Where/when does a Shed become a Brave Pill and vice versa ?
For me this is a Brave Pill whereas a Shed is something more modest with low running costs that you run into the ground over a number of years spending nearly nothing.
Just a thought
As to the car, not my kind of thing in any way; big, SUV, ugly but each to their own
I think PH towers are listening to their flock. Many of us loved brave Pill. There's been a few Shed-Brave Pill offerings recently.For me this is a Brave Pill whereas a Shed is something more modest with low running costs that you run into the ground over a number of years spending nearly nothing.
Just a thought
As to the car, not my kind of thing in any way; big, SUV, ugly but each to their own
Love the last three sentences. Classic Shed!
I have no love for these (or any SUV), but on a Porsche factory tour (Stuttgart and Leipzig) some 20 years ago I did have fun on the off-road circuit in one. The German instructions were to not go fast in the water-splash, but something got lost in translation, and we soon had a bow wave up and over the bonnet. The engine faltered briefly but pulled through and was still running when we left the car (thank god!).
I have no love for these (or any SUV), but on a Porsche factory tour (Stuttgart and Leipzig) some 20 years ago I did have fun on the off-road circuit in one. The German instructions were to not go fast in the water-splash, but something got lost in translation, and we soon had a bow wave up and over the bonnet. The engine faltered briefly but pulled through and was still running when we left the car (thank god!).
GeniusOfLove said:
Buy the turbo or don't bother.
The fuel in to performance out ratio on these old mid powered V8 elephants is pathetic, you're getting V12 supercar economy for very uninspiring performance, and in day to day use the turbo will use very little more fuel but have the performance there if you want it.
You aren't getting a turbo though for £2k and you're into a whole different world of complexity and running costs.The fuel in to performance out ratio on these old mid powered V8 elephants is pathetic, you're getting V12 supercar economy for very uninspiring performance, and in day to day use the turbo will use very little more fuel but have the performance there if you want it.
It's a 2.2tonne SUV, with a low-range box, locking diff and a V8. You're supposed to just woofle about on the torque. It's not trying to be a performance car. You bought the wrong car if you were expecting otherwise. Still has enough oomph to overtake and make progress. Unlike the lesser engined models.
PSB1967 said:
martin12345 said:
Where/when does a Shed become a Brave Pill and vice versa ?
For me this is a Brave Pill whereas a Shed is something more modest with low running costs that you run into the ground over a number of years spending nearly nothing.
Just a thought
As to the car, not my kind of thing in any way; big, SUV, ugly but each to their own
I think PH towers are listening to their flock. Many of us loved brave Pill. There's been a few Shed-Brave Pill offerings recently.For me this is a Brave Pill whereas a Shed is something more modest with low running costs that you run into the ground over a number of years spending nearly nothing.
Just a thought
As to the car, not my kind of thing in any way; big, SUV, ugly but each to their own
As someone above mentioned, an RX400h would be within this price point, so would qualify as a shed - but also, being a big hybrid, and very much computer-controlled, the potential for expensive parts is greater.
I think there will come a time when a genuine shed (that is NOT a brave pill) will be some sort of barn-find, low-mileage, old-school, common rail VAG 1.9TDi from the late 90s!
GeniusOfLove said:
Buy the turbo or don't bother.
The fuel in to performance out ratio on these old mid powered V8 elephants is pathetic, you're getting V12 supercar economy for very uninspiring performance, and in day to day use the turbo will use very little more fuel but have the performance there if you want it.
That's exactly what I was thinking. The fuel in to performance out ratio on these old mid powered V8 elephants is pathetic, you're getting V12 supercar economy for very uninspiring performance, and in day to day use the turbo will use very little more fuel but have the performance there if you want it.
ChocolateFrog said:
Over 7s to 60 sounds glacial for a fast SUV these days.
Can't imagine the fuel bills won't start to grate, slower than my diesel Touareg.
There is a good reason the mid performance petrol ones just vanished as soon as diesels got any good.Can't imagine the fuel bills won't start to grate, slower than my diesel Touareg.
I just don't really see the point in this and other mid range models of the same ilk; if you are doing real miles and can afford to fuel it you can afford a better/faster car, if you don't want to go very far and it's a toy then it's too slow and s
t to be any actual fun, I could go on.I do, however, see the point in a turbo version. If you're going to dick around with a ticking timebomb old smoker at least get a decent payoff for your risk, or bottle it completely and get the little six cylinder one.
GeniusOfLove said:
ChocolateFrog said:
Over 7s to 60 sounds glacial for a fast SUV these days.
Can't imagine the fuel bills won't start to grate, slower than my diesel Touareg.
There is a good reason the mid performance petrol ones just vanished as soon as diesels got any good.Can't imagine the fuel bills won't start to grate, slower than my diesel Touareg.
I just don't really see the point in this
ChocolateFrog said:
Over 7s to 60 sounds glacial for a fast SUV these days.
Can't imagine the fuel bills won't start to grate, slower than my diesel Touareg.
I expect one in fine fettle will be under 7s. Its the same power to weight as an Impreza WRX. Obviously it has a lot of initial inertia to overcome. But who is using one at traffic light grand prixs anway? 300+ lbs/ft is plenty of shove once moving.Can't imagine the fuel bills won't start to grate, slower than my diesel Touareg.
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