RE: All-new electric G-Class launched with 575hp

RE: All-new electric G-Class launched with 575hp

Wednesday 24th April

All-new electric G-Class arrives with 579hp

Can't wait for the Range Rover Electric? Mercedes throws down the gauntlet with 'uncompromising' G 580


It is a truth universally acknowledged that some types of cars are more difficult to convert to electric than others. Lightweight sports cars, for example. But SUVs, tall and comparatively heavy since day one, have proven ideal for the concealment of giant batteries. And if ever there was one to lend itself to being retrofitted with the technology, the Gelandewagen, with its ladder frame chassis and squared-off shape, must rank very highly. People are already accustomed to paying the earth for a fast one, too - win-win. 

Accordingly, there was much about the new Mercedes G 580 that we already knew. Yes, the ladder frame concept has been retained: in fact, thanks to the work required to house a two-tiered, 216-cell lithium-ion battery - and protect it come what may - the electric G-Class is said to be significantly more rigid than any combustion version. The battery itself is a monster, too, at 116 kWh, and can accept a charge of up to 200kW. Find a charger that chunky and you should get 106 miles of range in 15 minutes. Total range, all things being measured the WLTP way, is 294 miles. 

If that doesn’t sound like a terrifically large amount then obviously you need to bear in mind that a) the G-Class is roughly equivalent of to a garden shed, aerodynamically speaking, and b) it tips the EC scales at 3,085kg. Which is substantial even for a large electric SUV. As you might expect, this will not prevent it from seeming spirited in a straight line: Mercedes says 62mph in 4.7 seconds is achievable, although that is 0.3 seconds slower than the new hybrid G63 - and the limiter kicks in 26mph shy of the V8's 137mph top speed. 

It is not for the want of output or complexity, though. The G 580’s maximum total output is 579hp (marginally behind the 585hp V8) via four individually controlled motors that are also integrated with the ladder frame chassis, each located conveniently close to the wheel they power. Mercedes has previously admitted this is a complicated and expensive way of accomplishing four-wheel drive in an EV - it is the first mass-produced Mercedes to feature ‘individual-wheel drive’ - but it affords the G-wagen some impressive capabilities. 

Firstly and not unsurprisingly, there is 858lb ft of peak torque available - this being considerably more than even the hybridised V8 summons up. Secondly, it means that Mercedes can claim to ‘generate virtual diff locks’, which is obviously a nod to the combustion version, but in fact just means that the fully variable distribution of torque can be very precisely and automatically measured out to each wheel, when and where it is required. It even features a switchable low-range gear reduction (at a 2:1 ratio) that is likely to make the accompanying ‘intelligent off-road crawl function’ supremely able. 

Thirdly, it has equipped the G 580 with something called G-Turn, which will allow drivers to spin the car around ‘almost on the spot’. It is capable of this feat (which ‘looks spectacular’ according to its maker) because each of the four driven wheels can rotate to the left or right as required, which means that both wheels on one side can be made to go in the opposite direction of those on the other. Like a tank. As you can imagine, it’s quite an involved and time-consuming process to prepare the car for doing this, but (as any budding green laner will tell you) it could prove very useful off-road should you discover there is nowhere left to go. 

That said, as with all other G-Class variants, the electric version will take some stopping away from tarmac. It has a gradeability of up to 100 per cent (i.e. 45 degrees) on ‘suitable surfaces’ and will remain stable on sideways slopes of up to 35 degrees. It outperforms the fording depth of its combustion-powered counterparts by 150mm (to a maximum of 850mm) and features a protective underbody panel that is 26mm thick, weighs 57.6kg and is attached to the ladder frame with more than 50 screws - which ought to offer peace of mind when you’re busy dipping a very large battery in nearly a metre of murky water. 

While the G 580 is equipped with the same adaptive dampers and double-wishbone front suspension as the conventional derivatives, Mercedes says the De Dion back axle has been ‘completely redeveloped’, presumably to help accommodate new dual-joint shafts that connect the electric motors to the wheels. There’s a familiar choice of ‘Comfort’, ’Sport’ and ‘Individual’ in the on-road driving modes; interestingly, in the default setting, ‘propulsion flows primarily to just one axle for optimum energy consumption’. We’ll assume that ‘one axle’ is also the rear one. In any event, G 580 buyers might find themselves in ‘Sport’ more often than not because that’s where the new G-Roar (seriously) system delivers a ‘powerful and emotional sound’ inspired by the V8. Something to look forward to, eh? 

One thing that definitely hasn’t changed is the look. Or only very slightly anyway. The G 580 gets a slightly raised bonnet and there’s the option of a black panel radiator grille with an LED light band (that you can activate as a DRL if you really must) but otherwise the tweaks - such as ‘air curtains’ in the rear wheel arches and a spoiler lip on the roof - are to do with subtly optimising the aerodynamics. Ditto the five-spoke, 18-inch alloy wheels. The interior, meanwhile, is essentially carried over from the updated model revealed last month. The price is not: the G 580 starts at 142,621 euros or 192,524 euros for the Edition One pictured. No word yet on UK availability, but expect to hear more on that in the coming weeks. And expect a queue to form immediately. 


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Turini

Original Poster:

419 posts

167 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Multiple references to this being called the G850 yet the vehicle is clearly badged the G580….

napoleondynamite

160 posts

131 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Maybe it’s the colour, or maybe it’s just in-built snobbery knowing it won’t make that wonderful v8 noise - but that looks strangely dull. Especially at nearly 200k Euros..

zeppo

251 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I always asked myself, when do I Need a Truck drivers license for „normal“ Cars?
Now I got the answer…

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Wonderful.

Andy83n

386 posts

63 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I wonder whether the EV range is actually further than the standard G63 in realm life driving.

Puddenchucker

4,106 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Artilcle Said said:
...something called G-Turn, which will allow drivers to spin the car around ‘almost on the spot’.
A motor for each wheel should give this some extra off road capability and manoeuvrability in tight spaces.
Or for showing off in a shopping centre car park........

Artilcle Said said:
"...features a protective underbody panel that is 26mm thick, weighs 57.6kg"
That's some significant armour for the battery.

wistec1

291 posts

42 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Yet another spawned item of expensive box ticking electrified crap to hit our roads. Still at least it's not wearing a false Turbo badge like many of the EV Porsche models are touting.

CountyAFC

599 posts

4 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Don't like G-Wagens, so I like an electric one even less.

MOOSECORTINA

174 posts

80 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Pointless

S600BSB

4,676 posts

107 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Classy

ducnick

1,795 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Looks far better than a chaved up Matt black g63!
Suspect the diesel is still the one to buy if you want to tow anything anywhere…

NGK210

2,959 posts

146 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Splendid. But…

The raised bonnet, ‘aero sleeves’ on the A-pillars and a wee Gurney flap thingy above the windscreen all reduce wind noise when cruising and lower the Cd. Makes sense.

But this aero package is exclusive to the EV version, and not available on the ICE Gs. Huh??

Jader1973

4,011 posts

201 months

Wednesday 24th April
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NGK210 said:
Splendid. But…

The raised bonnet, ‘aero sleeves’ on the A-pillars and a wee Gurney flap thingy above the windscreen all reduce wind noise when cruising and lower the Cd. Makes sense.

But this aero package is exclusive to the EV version, and not available on the ICE Gs. Huh??
Nobody cares about range for a ICE because you can fill them up everywhere in 5 minutes.

However, one of the things you can guarantee the press care about for EVs is range, so maximising it is important.

biggbn

23,446 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I think that colour is nice, those wheels are not offensive, it looks great. I'd have that over an EV Range Rover although they aren't REALLY competitors any more.

MDL111

6,974 posts

178 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Andy83n said:
I wonder whether the EV range is actually further than the standard G63 in realm life driving.
my 2013 G63 can't do that distance without a petrol stop

Edit: or at least not in normal mixed driving (it probably can if I sit at say 100 kph or thereabouts)

NGK210

2,959 posts

146 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Jader1973 said:
NGK210 said:
Splendid. But…

The raised bonnet, ‘aero sleeves’ on the A-pillars and a wee Gurney flap thingy above the windscreen all reduce wind noise when cruising and lower the Cd. Makes sense.

But this aero package is exclusive to the EV version, and not available on the ICE Gs. Huh??
Nobody cares about range for a ICE because you can fill them up everywhere in 5 minutes.

However, one of the things you can guarantee the press care about for EVs is range, so maximising it is important.
Refuelling frequency, sure, not so much. But when cruising at c. 130km/h, the wind noise / buffeting around the windscreen is very tedious.

swisstoni

17,035 posts

280 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Business on the outside. Fun fair on the inside.

Deranged Rover

3,410 posts

75 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Does it still make a noise like the devil gargling rocks when you floor it?

If not, then I'm not interested.

dunnoreally

971 posts

109 months

Wednesday 24th April
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This is interesting. No-one is buying a new G-Wagen and then worrying about road tax or petrol prices (well, not to buy for personal use at any rate) and I'm pretty sure no-one's buying one out of worry about polar ice caps either.

That means relative to the petrol and diesel ones this needs to stand purely on the merits of how it drives. Is the extra smoothness and instant torque worth the lack of charging infrastructure and need to stop partway through very long journeys? I'm not going to guess, but it'll be interesting to see where the market goes.

Of course, the G being the G, I'm sure there's a subset of buyers who will buy every version available just because they can.

ChocolateFrog

25,469 posts

174 months

Wednesday 24th April
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That's got 1.5 miles per kWh written all over it so 160-170 mile range.

Some cars just shouldn't be electrified. Makes less sense than a FFRR EV.