RE: All-new electric G-Class launched with 575hp

[DonkeyApple]

JerryF said:

You would have to be insane to buy this lump.

Out dated styling, battery range, heavy and value in 8 years time spring to mind.

Indeed. It's marvellous.

[EV8]

CountyAFC said:

Don't like G-Wagens, so I like an electric one even less.

Thank you for sharing. Valuable contribution to debate.

[DanG355]

Turini said:

Multiple references to this being called the G850 yet the vehicle is clearly badged the G580….

Yep, even the sub-headline is wrong! The clue is the power output...

[p1stonhead]

Is there anything with a worse shape to be an EV?

[EV8]

JerryF said:

You would have to be insane to buy this lump.

Out dated styling, battery range, heavy and value in 8 years time spring to mind.

Outdated styling? Seriously? Maybe we should tear down Big Ben an make a glass/steel tower? You know, because te current is outdated...

Battery range is enough for most people. Heavy? So, no track days, uh, nooo. Value? If you can afford it....

[GianiCakes]

something called G-Turn, which will allow drivers to spin the car around ‘almost on the spot’.

Surely that would then be on a G-spot?

[Harry_523]

p1stonhead said:

Is there anything with a worse shape to be an EV?

Bus or Lorry maybe?

Somehow this looks more like a restomod than the regular G on the outside at least. Inside is a horror show of course.

Its a st car made even more st by making it an EV, so if Mercedes want to waste money and effort making it, more power to them

[Aids0G]

The poor range is a big problem for a vehicle like this, say your going skiing 800 miles each way, autoroute speeds so 85mph the range is going to be 180 miles tops at 0 degrees, so 4/5 stops for at least an hour a time turns a 10/12 hour days driving to a 18 plus hour non starter.

I know it’s an outlier case but even if it could scrape 300 miles on a charge in the above scenario it would be (just) viable.

Irrelevance to most buyers but still it doesn’t feel like progress.

[Wonderman]

DanG355 said:

Turini said:

Multiple references to this being called the G850 yet the vehicle is clearly badged the G580….

Yep, even the sub-headline is wrong! The clue is the power output...

...and the car registration

[WestyCarl]

Deranged Rover said:

Does it still make a noise like the devil gargling rocks when you floor it?

If not, then I'm not interested.

Exactly. To me a G wagon is an old fashioned, indestrucable relic from the past, but so cool.

Not an a silent EV

[Davey S2]

Fantastic

Now there will be less nasty fumes for Tristan and Jocasta to breathe in while being picked up from prep school.

And being a G Wagon it will still be able to handle the rigours of the village gymkhana.

[CheesecakeRunner]

WY86 said:

The range seems a little mean, i was hoping for a car of this size to have a range to be 350-400 with a real world range of at least 300 miles. 294 in the real world would probably translate to 200-220 miles.

How much range do you need to tool around London selling drugs?

[WY86]

CheesecakeRunner said:

How much range do you need to tool around London selling drugs?

a private enterprise pharmacist would only be seen in a G63.

[HardMiles]

Besides rolling my balls through a mangle, there's not a lot I'd like less than this! Wow!

[First Sea Lord]

Expect to see many rap videos showing G-Wagons performing 360 degree G-turns in the near future

[ChocolateFrog]

DonkeyApple said:

ChocolateFrog said:

If it gets 220 miles to a battery then it's around the same efficiency as my MG4, which either means Mercedes have done an unbelievably good job of SAIC have done an abysmal job.

Could just be down to cell quality. Cheap EVs chuck in all the basic cells and rely on the BMS to sort it out. Maybe some of the £150k has gone on selecting better quality, more uniform cells?

Aero above 50 is going to cane the mileage but for urban use and sub 100 mile drives to a destination with charging means it'll tick enough boxes and will probably be fine for the bulk of users.

I don't think quality of the cells has much to do with how inherently efficient the vehicle is, they just store less energy.

The physics around moving that thing around, particularly at speed just can't be overcome.

That said for 99% of the buyers who do nothing more than the urban school run drag won't be too much of an issue.

[ChocolateFrog]

Aids0G said:

The poor range is a big problem for a vehicle like this, say your going skiing 800 miles each way, autoroute speeds so 85mph the range is going to be 180 miles tops at 0 degrees, so 4/5 stops for at least an hour a time turns a 10/12 hour days driving to a 18 plus hour non starter.

I know it’s an outlier case but even if it could scrape 300 miles on a charge in the above scenario it would be (just) viable.

Irrelevance to most buyers but still it doesn’t feel like progress.

I know I'm banging on about it but there's 0 chance you'll get anywhere near 180 miles at 85 mph cruise.

Literally zero.

[Wonderman]

First Sea Lord said:

Expect to see many rap videos showing G-Wagons performing 360 degree G-turns in the near future

https://wonderfulengineering.com/mercedes-has-intr...

Edited by Wonderman on Wednesday 24th April 15:59

[DonkeyApple]

ChocolateFrog said:

Aids0G said:

The poor range is a big problem for a vehicle like this, say your going skiing 800 miles each way, autoroute speeds so 85mph the range is going to be 180 miles tops at 0 degrees, so 4/5 stops for at least an hour a time turns a 10/12 hour days driving to a 18 plus hour non starter.

I know it’s an outlier case but even if it could scrape 300 miles on a charge in the above scenario it would be (just) viable.

Irrelevance to most buyers but still it doesn’t feel like progress.

I know I'm banging on about it but there's 0 chance you'll get anywhere near 180 miles at 85 mph cruise.

Literally zero.

Indeed but what journey range would you actually need? Just take another car, fly etc. these are toys really.

[Birky_41]

bobj42 said:

>it tips the EC scales at 3,085kg.

I really think they need to bring back a pure "road tax" supplement to Vehicle Excise Duty based on vehicle weight.

In the last couple of decades we've had increasing amounts of SUVs, then EVs, and now SUV EVs.

It's no surprise we've had a correspondingly increasing pothole repair bill.

This is a good shout. Completely agree