RE: Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16V | Spotted

[Mr Tidy]

I've always loved them, but they have always been out of my budget - and after 2 70s Fiats maybe out of my comfort zone too!

£50K is a chunk of cash, but I'd much rather have an Integrale than a Sierra Cosworth.

[CLK-GTR]

There is undoubtedly an Evo in my lottery garage, for the potential running costs as much as the purchase price. More affordable than a T16 or a Sport Quattro anyway which for me are the only competitors.

This particular car is too pricey for what it is. Any Integrale is as good as it gets though.

[DarkHorseTerence]

It’s a no from me. Better alternatives for that money

[EmBe]

I had (and still have) a habit of buying great cars just as they reach the bottom of their depreciation curve.

Bought an HF Turbo in the early 90s with my insurance payout for the X1/9 that a drunk driver wrote off in Kilburn - loved it.
Sold the HF for a loss and moved on to an 8v Integrale, loved it, sold that for a loss and moved on to a 16v....which I didn't love so much somehow but also sold for less than I paid ((IIRC bought for £8k, sold for £5k 18 months later).

All were fettled by Barry Waterhouse Engineering on Walworth road in Southwark - what a character he was.....

Edited by EmBe on Friday 26th April 09:59

[NGK210]

EmBe said:

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All were fettled by Barry Waterhouse Engineering on Walworth road in Southwark - what a character he was.....

Happy days.

[firebird350]

Jon_S_Rally said:

Pereldh said:

They forgot a vital car in the Deltasphere....
The pre-Integrale 165hp Lancia Delta HF Turbo 4x4 that won WRC 1987.

Glad that someone else corrected this. A glaring omission to ignore the HF 4WD, which was the car that started it all.

As someone else said, they're the rarest of all the 4WD Delta iterations now too, so one to look out for. A friend has a rally car that is an ex-press car and was lightly modified by Prodrive for some demo events in the late 1980s.

There's also one on eBay at the moment, but it's listed as an Integrale amusingly.

Agreed! In fact, if you can find one (and there's occasionally one or two popping up for sale in Europe) I would say the HF 4WD is a much more affortable way to enjoy the 'integrale' experience. Rarely (but it does happen) one will be advertised in the UK:

For example, yesterday I was down at South West Vehicle Auctions in Poole and they had this HF 4WD on offer. I had a good look and could find no rot anywhere. Doors, scuttle, tailgate, sunroof, wheelarches and original seats all perfect. Imported in 2013 from Italy into a private UK collection (many of which were auctioned yesterday by SWVA on behalf of the collector's widow), this HF 4WD sold for £18K:

https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/lancia-delta-hf...

The link is misleading - it's definitely an HF 4WD and not an Integrale! Video included.

[daviekiwi]

The integrale is a part of Wrc history like the Ford escort mk2, Subaru impreza and Mitsubishi evo.
Love them or hate them they are iconic?
All had poor build quality and cheap interior's.
However they were designed for a purpose, To win rally championship's and stick to the road/stage.
They were never about rust proofing and long lasting build quality.
But they do have drama and pedigree in spades.

[Kirk156]

Always thought that the original 16v was underrated. These are the cars that won the majority of the WRCs.
Great cars

[Evoman]

andy-integrale said:

I’ve had my Evo 2 since 2007. Love it and never once thought of selling it. It’s been fantastically reliable too, and has given me no bother. I’ve done 35,000 miles in it and it’s just ticked over 100,000. Nowhere near as quick as my daily driver but the positive side is you can use all its performance and have great fun on the road at sensible speeds. If you’re out in it, you have to be prepared to speak to people wherever you go, but the attention is universally positive. One of the great cars.

Similar to me, I've had my Evo I since 2004. It always was a very special thing and quick, still is. They communicate in a way modern cards can only dream of, almost telepathic handling. They rightly command much respect. Sure plenty of faster machinery out there but it's the way it does it. Mine has been tweaked a touch here and there so a kind of fast road set up which I think brings alive the Grale magic more so than standard. Has been utterly reliable all these years too. Recovery services once for a I think something that turned out to be very minor.
Love them and so much attention these days from folks reminiscing of those good rally days. Not to say it ain't cool these days, the current crop of rally machines are pretty inspiring l, almost Group B esque to my mind

[andy-integrale]

Evoman said:

andy-integrale said:

I’ve had my Evo 2 since 2007. Love it and never once thought of selling it. It’s been fantastically reliable too, and has given me no bother. I’ve done 35,000 miles in it and it’s just ticked over 100,000. Nowhere near as quick as my daily driver but the positive side is you can use all its performance and have great fun on the road at sensible speeds. If you’re out in it, you have to be prepared to speak to people wherever you go, but the attention is universally positive. One of the great cars.

Similar to me, I've had my Evo I since 2004. It always was a very special thing and quick, still is. They communicate in a way modern cards can only dream of, almost telepathic handling. They rightly command much respect. Sure plenty of faster machinery out there but it's the way it does it. Mine has been tweaked a touch here and there so a kind of fast road set up which I think brings alive the Grale magic more so than standard. Has been utterly reliable all these years too. Recovery services once for a I think something that turned out to be very minor.
Love them and so much attention these days from folks reminiscing of those good rally days. Not to say it ain't cool these days, the current crop of rally machines are pretty inspiring l, almost Group B esque to my mind

Both got Alpina Tourings too!

[Jon_S_Rally]

sean ie3 said:

Moss Feen said:

That yolk has been on sale for at least 4 years 2 years ago he was looking for £13k And I remember seeing it on ebay for £9995 exact same photos the guy is a DREAMER and worse its only front wheel drive 190bhp Basically just a Fiat Coupe in Drag

Yes, that is a shame I guess if they had made a full fat 2nd generation Integrale we would have heard about it before now.

I don't think a Fiat Coupe in drag sounds like such a bad thing to be honest. It's not something I would pay north of 10k for but, if you like interesting/unusual cars, I think something like that has a lot of appeal, FWD or otherwise.

firebird350 said:

Agreed! In fact, if you can find one (and there's occasionally one or two popping up for sale in Europe) I would say the HF 4WD is a much more affortable way to enjoy the 'integrale' experience. Rarely (but it does happen) one will be advertised in the UK:

For example, yesterday I was down at South West Vehicle Auctions in Poole and they had this HF 4WD on offer. I had a good look and could find no rot anywhere. Doors, scuttle, tailgate, sunroof, wheelarches and original seats all perfect. Imported in 2013 from Italy into a private UK collection (many of which were auctioned yesterday by SWVA on behalf of the collector's widow), this HF 4WD sold for £18K:

https://www.swva.co.uk/classic-car/lancia-delta-hf...

The link is misleading - it's definitely an HF 4WD and not an Integrale! Video included.

I'd agree with that. I met Harry Metcalfe a couple of years ago and, for some reason, we got onto my friend's HF 4WD. He said that, if my friend ever wants to sell, to get in touch, as an HF 4WD is the pick of the bunch in his view.