RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k
Discussion
JJJ. said:
J4CKO said:
If you care about weight, you won’t buy it, if you aren’t, then you might.
People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.
People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.
Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?
They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.
You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.
Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.
Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.
It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
''You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.''People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.
People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.
Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?
They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.
You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.
Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.
Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.
It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
This.
I suspect any enthusiast when looking to buy a sports car or a GT will go ICE and take all the vehicle's parameters and specification into consideration when making a choice. While going EV they're on the back foot straight off as they'd stuck with a major weight penalty, no gearbox and of course no engine, which many would consider the beating heart of such a car.
Admittedly, I understand EV's have their place as tool but can't get my head around any enthusiast buying one as a sports car or GT.
cerb4.5lee said:
Rob747 said:
Trophy 2110kg
GT 2210kg
From the MG configurator
GT 2210kg
From the MG configurator
I believe in the future they want cars to weight maxima 1.000kg thats good news for drivers, thats maybe? one good point of the bad WEF/VN but I guess there are hidden doors also in that 'trap'
ChocolateFrog said:
otolith said:
NDNDNDND said:
otolith said:
Agree with that, the engine in the mk2 MX-5 was a joyless thing.
I dunno, I quite like the engine in my Mk1 - stainless exhaust, K&N filter, lightened flywheel, snappy gearshift and the shorter final drive ratio from the imported cars means the engine's definitely a part of the fun.I thought the engine was comfortably the worst bit about my MX5.
ETA and the block weighs a ton, took 2 of us to lift it out.
The problem with the engine is that's a perfectly reasonable late-80's hot hatch engine, but it's completely outshone by the chassis, which could take a lot more. As for weight, well it was a cast iron block and designed to be turbocharged, which is why the engine can be safely boosted to twice the standard output without any internal changes.
Funnily enough I thought the worst part of the car was the steering, which was horribly over-boosted and disappointingly numb - heresy, I know. Depowering the rack made a huge difference - it also had a surprising impact on the engine, which rev'd a lot more freely without the parasitic drag from the pump. Fuel economy also jumped up to 36+mpg.
Silvanus said:
JJJ. said:
J4CKO said:
If you care about weight, you won’t buy it, if you aren’t, then you might.
People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.
People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.
Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?
They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.
You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.
Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.
Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.
It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
''You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.''People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.
People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.
Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?
They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.
You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.
Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.
Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.
It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
This.
I suspect any enthusiast when looking to buy a sports car or a GT will go ICE and take all the vehicle's parameters and specification into consideration when making a choice. While going EV they're on the back foot straight off as they'd stuck with a major weight penalty, no gearbox and of course no engine, which many would consider the beating heart of such a car.
Admittedly, I understand EV's have their place as tool but can't get my head around any enthusiast buying one as a sports car or GT.
And did anybody say ''only'' enthusiasts can buy a car that appeals to enthusiasts?
JJJ. said:
Silvanus said:
JJJ. said:
J4CKO said:
If you care about weight, you won’t buy it, if you aren’t, then you might.
People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.
People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.
Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?
They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.
You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.
Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.
Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.
It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
''You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.''People buy massive diesel and petrol SUVs and they probably know they are quite heavy but not how much.
People buy SLs and stuff, they don’t get the scales out and check its weight.
Does it look cool, is it shiny, is it fast, how much does it cost to buy, and run, will it get me a shag ?
They aren’t agonising over its weight by and large, like people buy audio equipment that would offend audiophiles but they think is awesome.
You aren’t dealing with the enthusiasts by and large.
Watched the TG video, looks alright, not particularly on my next car list but it’s got some appeal.
Would love someone to produce a light EV sports car in the future, this isn’t that yet, it is more a cruiser than a back roads weapon.
It is, despite all the moaning, evidence that there may be more interesting EVs coming, fair play to MG they are the first and it’s a credible looking effort.
This.
I suspect any enthusiast when looking to buy a sports car or a GT will go ICE and take all the vehicle's parameters and specification into consideration when making a choice. While going EV they're on the back foot straight off as they'd stuck with a major weight penalty, no gearbox and of course no engine, which many would consider the beating heart of such a car.
Admittedly, I understand EV's have their place as tool but can't get my head around any enthusiast buying one as a sports car or GT.
And did anybody say ''only'' enthusiasts can buy a car that appeals to enthusiasts?
W12AAM said:
Chinese built; Fully Electric, stupid doors....and about £20k too much - No thanks; And that's from an MG fan.
They should have aimed more at an MX5 equivalent, as MG are not a premier brand. They should have made it all petrol...Or hybrid - But NOT fully electric. Those doors, i dont like - Look like something some "oik" would do to his hot-hatch
A nice 2nd hand F-Type or Boxter, for 1/2 the price would be my preferred choice.
The Chinese just don't understand the brand they've bought / "Stolen" from us.
This is a 2seat convertible, not exactly "under the radar" car. So lambo doors, why not. Adds to the drama. And by beng electric, in the long term it actually costs 20k less as ICE.They should have aimed more at an MX5 equivalent, as MG are not a premier brand. They should have made it all petrol...Or hybrid - But NOT fully electric. Those doors, i dont like - Look like something some "oik" would do to his hot-hatch
A nice 2nd hand F-Type or Boxter, for 1/2 the price would be my preferred choice.
The Chinese just don't understand the brand they've bought / "Stolen" from us.
Comparing 2nd hand cars... Really.
Stolen brand? Huh, seriously? Maybe you should buy more MGs, so it wouldnt go bust. I see it as a saviour. And the bad, bad Chinese obviously understand the brand better then you superior british people...
I like it if it's £500 a month on EV salary sacrifice because that will help swerve me paying the 62% tax band, I have a 184bhp MX5 mk4 for fun and a BMW 840d mostly for commuting 50 miles to work.
If I had a Cyberster it would replace the BMW. That would free up the MX5 slot for a GR Yaris or maybe something left field like a Bentley Mulsanne as the silly car that only does 3000 miles a year.
So I see the Cyberster as a disrupter, which is a good thing, because it gives options that didn't exist before. It's a blend of attributes previously unavailable.
I wouldn't consider it if the tax factor of the salary sacrifice leasing didn't exist, but it does exist. It is at least an 'interesting' car so as such should be celebrated here.
If I had a Cyberster it would replace the BMW. That would free up the MX5 slot for a GR Yaris or maybe something left field like a Bentley Mulsanne as the silly car that only does 3000 miles a year.
So I see the Cyberster as a disrupter, which is a good thing, because it gives options that didn't exist before. It's a blend of attributes previously unavailable.
I wouldn't consider it if the tax factor of the salary sacrifice leasing didn't exist, but it does exist. It is at least an 'interesting' car so as such should be celebrated here.
Encouraging that Tom Ford said he didn't really miss the noise. Looks like it would be fun to punt down a country road on a sunny day.
It's a pity the European legacy manufacturers have been beaten to it, but kudos to the Chinese for making an EV that celebrates driving as a fun activity and doesn't look like a suppository.
As for all the people saying "I'm a true enthusiast, though, so I'll choose ICE because weight/noise". Great. Enjoy your classics. That's won't be a viable choice for a new car soon, though, because climate change.
It's a pity the European legacy manufacturers have been beaten to it, but kudos to the Chinese for making an EV that celebrates driving as a fun activity and doesn't look like a suppository.
As for all the people saying "I'm a true enthusiast, though, so I'll choose ICE because weight/noise". Great. Enjoy your classics. That's won't be a viable choice for a new car soon, though, because climate change.
I'm conflicted. I am a fan of EVs and I want the manufacturers to work out EV sports cars and make them a viable option, however.... this screams Chinesium and MGs in general have never really got me excited; they're for middle aged women and old men in my eyes.
That said, I hope it's good and I hope it sells well to fuel this sector of the market, I just can't see me being a customer.
That said, I hope it's good and I hope it sells well to fuel this sector of the market, I just can't see me being a customer.
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