RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k

RE: MG Cyberster goes on sale priced from £55k

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autumnsum

387 posts

32 months

Friday 26th April
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evo2073 said:
NO LARD said:
Making assumptions about what I'd "complain" about is pretty foolish.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW MUCH IT WEIGHS
This from the configurator:

LENGTH: 4535 MM
WIDTH: 1913 MM
WIDTH INCL. MIRRORS: 2110 MM
HEIGHT: 1329 MM
WHEELBASE: 2690 MM
GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT (KG): 2210 KG
In awe of how many people on this sub don't know what 'GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT' means.

Hey guys, the GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT of a 911 is over 2 ton!

ChocolateFrog

25,501 posts

174 months

Friday 26th April
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Marcodude said:
Chubbyross said:
It's not a bad looking thing and I'm glad it exists but I think I'd feel a bit of a knob owning something with those doors. Having watched the Top Gear review just now they also seem to take an age to open. I'd be standing there counting the seconds until I could climb in and drive off in embarrassment. I think I'll pass and stick with a Boxster.
Exactly. An MG with scissor doors is just embarrassing. Leave that to supercars.

It's all a bit Aliexpress....
Yep.

I'll put money on it's successor (if there is one) having conventional doors.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Friday 26th April 08:55

LotusOmega375D

7,646 posts

154 months

Friday 26th April
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autumnsum said:
In awe of how many people on this sub don't know what 'GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT' means.

Hey guys, the GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT of a 911 is over 2 ton!
To be fair it’s probably a lot lighter when you’ve run the battery down a bit! wink

Wills2

22,894 posts

176 months

Friday 26th April
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I like it bar the Lambo doors, I think copying AM with their slightly rising but conventional doors would have worked better, silly doors are best left to the exotics, arrows on the lights are naff as well, but I can see it selling well at that price.


yme402

390 posts

103 months

Friday 26th April
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Looks good, but I wonder if they had fitted conventional doors what savings could have be made in terms of weight and cost-price?

otolith

56,219 posts

205 months

Friday 26th April
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The doors are a bit silly, but a bit of frivolity in the EV market is no bad thing. See also the Hyundai pretending to have gears and making brum noises. At least it isn't fart mode, there's frivolous and there's puerile.

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Friday 26th April
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Curb weight is 1850kg - which is circa 150kg lighter than a current Mercedes SL and about 200kg heavier than a 992 or F Type Cab.

The 77kwh battery will be circa 550kgs - so they've got the rest of the car down to 1300kg.....It'll be interesting to see what Porsche achieve with the pending electric Boxster - id wager it'll be +/- 10% of that with a similar sized battery.

Doors a bit chavvy, think it's about 1/3 too expensive personally. I think the only way these will sell is if MG back them financially, with a decent GFV and low finance.

911Spanker

1,241 posts

17 months

Friday 26th April
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What's the target market? Those who had a MGB and who wants the modern equivalent from the same manufacturer?

griffsomething

238 posts

162 months

Friday 26th April
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I’m still surprised they didn’t call it the MGE.

Would be a nice nod to MGA/B/C/F naming convention and tie in to the electric aspect.

GT9

6,684 posts

173 months

Friday 26th April
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Inevitable that curbing kerb weight for these cars is important for the feel of a sports car.
Battery technology isn't quite there yet, so for now, ICE will need to remain the choice for those obsessed with kerb weight.
Will also curb the endless posting solely about kerb weight to the exclusion of everything else that also influences the car's performance and handling.
Is kerb weight important to kerb appeal, we shall see if it really does curb the sales of the cars.

LotusOmega375D

7,646 posts

154 months

Friday 26th April
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911Spanker said:
What's the target market? Those who had a MGB and who wants the modern equivalent from the same manufacturer?
My parents had loads of MGs back in the day. Basically every iteration of 4 cylinder Midget and MGB. Working on them most weekends taught me all I know about car maintenance.

pSyCoSiS

3,601 posts

206 months

Friday 26th April
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That is actually not too bad. Looks pretty decent. Impressive stats. Acceptable range. If it does release at those prices then I think they will sell a fair few, especially given how much a mundane-looking electric car can cost these days.

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Friday 26th April
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911Spanker said:
What's the target market? Those who had a MGB and who wants the modern equivalent from the same manufacturer?
Doubt it; I suspect most people who're old enough to have run an MGB in period wouldn't touch an EV. I think it's just aimed at people who want a good looking, reasonably priced, drop-top. It feels like a car designed to do nothing badly rather than anything particularly well.

Edited by kambites on Friday 26th April 09:44

GT9

6,684 posts

173 months

Friday 26th April
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bump8989 said:
GTRene said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Rob747 said:
Trophy 2110kg
GT 2210kg

From the MG configurator
yikes
wow, heavy weight, it looks good-ish though.

I believe in the future they want cars to weight maxima 1.000kg thats good news for drivers, thats maybe? one good point of the bad WEF/VN but I guess there are hidden doors also in that 'trap'
Wow - definitely a 'GT' then..
It's already been pointed out, but for what it's worth, you guys are getting animated about the car's MAXIMUM GROSS WEIGHT.
Jumping on an erroneous social media post and then spreading that like muck across the internet is for Facebook, etc.
Let's try to keep PH grounded in some sort of factual basis shall we.

stuart100

480 posts

58 months

Friday 26th April
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soxboy said:
stuart100 said:
It’s Chinese. I’m too concerned about the car hacking my phone and stealing my data.
You mean all the data that’s on your Chinese-made phone?
Yes that data. Apple are very good with securty I understand too.

Mouse Rat

1,817 posts

93 months

Friday 26th April
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Looks good
Cool doors
Reasonably priced
Supercar acceleration
Chinese tech

It's a bit lardy but that's BEV's for you. By a TVR or lotus if you want an agile sports car.

I think it's great

bennno

11,659 posts

270 months

Friday 26th April
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griffsomething said:
I’m still surprised they didn’t call it the MGE.

Would be a nice nod to MGA/B/C/F naming convention and tie in to the electric aspect.
100% - you should be in marketing

s1962a

5,351 posts

163 months

Friday 26th April
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soxboy said:
stuart100 said:
It’s Chinese. I’m too concerned about the car hacking my phone and stealing my data.
You mean all the data that’s on your Chinese-made phone?
My iPhone is designed by a US company

I bought my laptop from Amazon, which came from a UK warehouse, and is designed by a US company

My BMW is German


All made in China though

/Parrot


Scott-R

112 posts

106 months

Friday 26th April
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GT9 said:
Inevitable that curbing kerb weight for these cars is important for the feel of a sports car.
Battery technology isn't quite there yet, so for now, ICE will need to remain the choice for those obsessed with kerb weight.
Will also curb the endless posting solely about kerb weight to the exclusion of everything else that also influences the car's performance and handling.
Is kerb weight important to kerb appeal, we shall see if it really does curb the sales of the cars.
Out of interest, is there a way of comparing the centre of gravity of a skateboard EV like this, where the battery and motors are all within the wheelbase and below the driver, against a lighter car, where the weight is more over each axle?

i.e., is it possible to say “a 1900kg skateboard EVs feels similar to a xxxx kg ICE vehicle”, because the greater weight is lower in the vehicle? Obviously the brakes and the suspension still have to deal with the higher mass but I was just wondering if there was even a ball park comparison that could be made.

Sporky

6,318 posts

65 months

Friday 26th April
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z89 said:
That's heavier than an Audi Q7, which handles like a boat.
Is the Q7's handling solely due to its weight, or does the high centre of gravity and general setup have something to do with it?