RE: Gatso 2 arrives
Discussion
deltafox said:
Parallels with a film i once saw......
You see, according to Labour's plan I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think; I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I WANT high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and BUCKETS of cheese, okay? I want to smoke Cuban cigars the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I want to run through the streets naked with green jello all over my body reading playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing -"I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiener."
All I wanna do is bury Blair and the rest of his pals up to their necks in shit, and let them think happy-happy thoughts forever.
Yup, Demolition Man strikes an uncanny resemblance to the way we are going in the UK.
A cross between 1984 and Demolition Man. 1984 was written a long time ago, but Demo man brings it into the modern light that Mr Orwell couldn't see back then like computers etc.
Swearing boxes on walls listening to you, fining you for speaking out or swearing, no crime, a utopia of calm, safe everywhere under the watchful eye of camera's, but no love, no hatred, no fun, no fear. A lifeless society with no ability to even express itself through personal freedoms and choice.
Moving that way, slowly but surely!
Dave
off_again said:
.....BUT, thats all immaterial. Its just not going to happen. I suspect that the original Sunday Times article was a manipulation of the facts to start with. Its taken 5 years for BT to roll-out ADSL to 90% of the population - do we really think the Police can roll-out monitoring cameras, their supporting networks and systems to all of our national road networks? ....
So why are there miles of fibre cables being laid to new 'information' signs all along the M4 then?
You don't need high speed fibre links for a simple warning/information sign - and they are being sited a few hundred yards away from each other...and at entrances to the slip roads.
GTRene said:
There will always be someone who can hack those things? because those are linked by computers...
But I still hope the goverment? use their heads and listen to the people and take more action to other things then cars...
Perhaps less important, but deserving of attention:
1. Poverty and social deprivation. One sixth of families in the uk below the poverty line? But speeding is of course more important in the governments' eyes, because of the contentious vote-swinging lobbies fighting over it.And it raises 90million quid of funding a year.
2. Petty crime- police now openly admitting (in the North East at least) that they cannot respond to, nevermind follow-up on, simple household burglaries.
2. Umm, how about that first point?
>> Edited by R555SSH on Thursday 17th November 17:57
and if they cheak for insurance every few seconds then how many alerts will it cause when I have trade insurance and none of the cars i will be driving will be down as insured????.hope there going to pay costs for court apperances that way i will only have to work 2 months a year and the rest i will spend in court giving them the polite "up yours" and they(us)will be paying for wasting time and money.
didnt think of that did they.
also to tax a car and not have it changed in your name all you have to do fill out the temporay log book on the bottom of the v5 then just take that to tax it.so much for SORN more like YAWN!!!
didnt think of that did they.
also to tax a car and not have it changed in your name all you have to do fill out the temporay log book on the bottom of the v5 then just take that to tax it.so much for SORN more like YAWN!!!
I hate GATSOs
And here's why. They are symbolic of a government hopelessly out of touch. That on its own wouldn't be so bad but they also represent a huge waste of money, our money. This is always justified on the grounds of improving road safety though statistcs prove this argument to be false, or at least a bit suspect.
What's happening down my street while this is going on? Let's see...
My neighbour has had a breeze block chucked through his car window.
My other neighbour has had his shed burgled.
Across the road has had his car torched.
A man chased a six year old girl home from school with his thingy hanging out of his trousers. He's flashed at women before, now he's chasing school girls.
Does anything get done about this? No.
Oh and I forgot to mention MrsC and the new baby getting used for darts practice by druggies throwing needles at them.
Of course that's just crime. There's also pensions gone to pot, lousy equipment for the forces, the NHS in crisis, schools churning out illiterate morons that mysteriously seem to have more paper qualifications than ever (don't get me started on A levels, a complete national disgrace!). The list just goes on and on.
So there are lots of serious problems to sort out. No shortage at all in fact. Despite our wonderful government, efficient civil service and handy membership of Europe the list just gets bigger. Strange that.
Now does anyone down our road worry about speed crazed motorists? No. Anyone at work? No. Have accident figures been pushed down by Gatsos? No. Has some speed related Mickey taking been stoped by Cameras? Possibly. It just doesn't seem to show up in the accident figures.
So there's a big case to spend money on lots of real problems and not much of a case for scameras? Yes.
So what do we get?
Scameras. That's what we get. Everywhere.
And we get them while everything that we actually pay the government and the police and the courts to do doesn't seem to get done as well as it used to be when we were actually taxed less.
And here's why. They are symbolic of a government hopelessly out of touch. That on its own wouldn't be so bad but they also represent a huge waste of money, our money. This is always justified on the grounds of improving road safety though statistcs prove this argument to be false, or at least a bit suspect.
What's happening down my street while this is going on? Let's see...
My neighbour has had a breeze block chucked through his car window.
My other neighbour has had his shed burgled.
Across the road has had his car torched.
A man chased a six year old girl home from school with his thingy hanging out of his trousers. He's flashed at women before, now he's chasing school girls.
Does anything get done about this? No.
Oh and I forgot to mention MrsC and the new baby getting used for darts practice by druggies throwing needles at them.
Of course that's just crime. There's also pensions gone to pot, lousy equipment for the forces, the NHS in crisis, schools churning out illiterate morons that mysteriously seem to have more paper qualifications than ever (don't get me started on A levels, a complete national disgrace!). The list just goes on and on.
So there are lots of serious problems to sort out. No shortage at all in fact. Despite our wonderful government, efficient civil service and handy membership of Europe the list just gets bigger. Strange that.
Now does anyone down our road worry about speed crazed motorists? No. Anyone at work? No. Have accident figures been pushed down by Gatsos? No. Has some speed related Mickey taking been stoped by Cameras? Possibly. It just doesn't seem to show up in the accident figures.
So there's a big case to spend money on lots of real problems and not much of a case for scameras? Yes.
So what do we get?
Scameras. That's what we get. Everywhere.
And we get them while everything that we actually pay the government and the police and the courts to do doesn't seem to get done as well as it used to be when we were actually taxed less.
Sgt^Roc said:
[quote=roy c]Coming soon: GATSO-3 "Polling Booth Cam"
Followed by GATSO-4 "parent and child parking cam"
The man who created Gatso scamera's ( a dutch man! but I'm not proud of that!) is long dead, sadly his work not...
Annyway, I've got lasergund last month doing 255km/u on a straight empty road(highway) in the night at 3am...at least 4 months no drivers lisence? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh and 3 weeks no car(I've got my car back
) so my worry was no Mr Gatso...in these times they lasergun you
hundleydavid said:
Another Good reason to move away from the UK...
I agree.
Apparently we are crying out for more people but more and more are moving away, especially graduates.
Eventually this country will become a sweathouse factory of pure labor while all the expertise and knowledge will be in the southern hemisphere!
I note that the unfortunate shooting of the police woman in Bradford has lead to plenty of press talk about how the suspects were found using that lovely ANPR system.
While I admit it is great that they have managed to catch the scumbags quickly, I can't help thinking they are trying to soften us up by extolling the benefits of camera surveilance.
If the idiots in the silver 4x4 had had a spare set of dodgy plates that they could have changed in a lay-by somewhere, the ANPR system would have failed hopelessly. The police were just lucky that the scumbags were too stupid to think of this. Meanwhile, innocent, law abiding drivers are watched everywhere they go, and rather handily for the Government they get a ready made surveilance system to allow them to start road charging.
While I admit it is great that they have managed to catch the scumbags quickly, I can't help thinking they are trying to soften us up by extolling the benefits of camera surveilance.
If the idiots in the silver 4x4 had had a spare set of dodgy plates that they could have changed in a lay-by somewhere, the ANPR system would have failed hopelessly. The police were just lucky that the scumbags were too stupid to think of this. Meanwhile, innocent, law abiding drivers are watched everywhere they go, and rather handily for the Government they get a ready made surveilance system to allow them to start road charging.
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