RE: Images of Melling's Hellcat emerge
Discussion
Boosted LS1 said:
Looks remarkably like a Hyundai Coupe from certain angles to me........ 
Seconded, it's certainly no looker! Make it look like a vette or something italian and sporty not a confused thing of a thing. It's looks are for bland thinking people, think souped up kia pride, nissan micra. The domain of the *****y. It's truly awful.
Boosted.
Seeing as every time we see a new coupe it gets the 'Looks like a Hyundai Coupe' comment. We have seen it with the new XK, Aston, Ferrari to name a few. Could it be that Hyundai took all the basic design signatures of these long established car makers and included the details into their car so it would look a lot like the others. Thus the Hyundai really looks like and 'insert coupe name here' rather than the other way round. Same with any new car maker, do they really want to take a gamble looks wise when the established are liked so much?
Just a thought, just a thought
0-60 in less than 3 secs out of a 6 litre NA v10 sounds the business.
Sadly, IMO the car is extremely ugly! When you look at a ferrari or TVR you feel the sensation of speed, when you look at this car, it just looks like a box??!!!
If Melling makes this car a reality, who would part with 100k for one? I think he should have hired someone who pencil's better designs.... and worked a price around the 60k mark, IMO.
Good-luck Melling - you'll need it!
Sadly, IMO the car is extremely ugly! When you look at a ferrari or TVR you feel the sensation of speed, when you look at this car, it just looks like a box??!!!
If Melling makes this car a reality, who would part with 100k for one? I think he should have hired someone who pencil's better designs.... and worked a price around the 60k mark, IMO.
Good-luck Melling - you'll need it!
stumpage said:
Seeing as every time we see a new coupe it gets the 'Looks like a Hyundai Coupe' comment. We have seen it with the new XK, Aston, Ferrari to name a few. Could it be that Hyundai took all the basic design signatures of these long established car makers and included the details into their car so it would look a lot like the others. Thus the Hyundai really looks like and 'insert coupe name here' rather than the other way round. Same with any new car maker, do they really want to take a gamble looks wise when the established are liked so much?
Just a thought, just a thought
It's all to do with the amount of metal above the wheels, in this case far too much. Compare it to a Vette or a Maranello
>> Edited by apache on Monday 29th May 19:16
the dodger said:
Melling is an icon in the engine design world - that's a fact. He's had his hand in the design of "most" car engines (and motorbike engines) throughout the lands. The AJPV8 was and still is a screaming success. The Speed 12/6 less so, mostly because it was put into production prior to sufficient development. Ask Ravenscroft why it had problems if you think Melling doesn't have the credentials.
I think you may be judging the guy without knowledge of the facts. Like too many PH-ers nowadays.......
Seriously, no axe to grind, but I really would be interested in concrete evidence of any previous (or subsequent) stuff. I'd never heard of this guy before his involvement with TVR or since.
Avocet said:
Melling is an icon in the engine design world - that's a fact. He's had his hand in the design of "most" car engines (and motorbike engines) throughout the lands. The AJPV8 was and still is a screaming success. The Speed 12/6 less so, mostly because it was put into production prior to sufficient development. Ask Ravenscroft why it had problems if you think Melling doesn't have the credentials.
I think you may be judging the guy without knowledge of the facts. Like too many PH-ers nowadays.......
Seriously, no axe to grind, but I really would be interested in concrete evidence of any previous (or subsequent) stuff. I'd never heard of this guy before his involvement with TVR or since.
My advice : send your CV to Melling as an engine designer, pass the interview, then have fun ......
I'll wait 'till his next car, thank you. There seems to be a tradition with independent supercar manufacturers, in that your first car must perform magnificently, but be ugly as sin (think: Mosler, Noble). On your second go 'round, however, you hire a guy who can design a car that doesn't look like a retarded potato peeler and suddenly you've got a hit on your hands.
lap_time said:
Heres something for Melling to ponder: Dreams are like rainbows. Only idiots chase them.
>> Edited by lap_time on Sunday 28th May 11:08
Ive never heard a more apathetic and mind-numbing phrase that I can only speculate the most un-ambitious and boring individuals have as an outlook on life.
lol. figures. a guy designs a front engine, 700 hp, 2700 lb car, practically the holy grail of supercar pwr:weight ratios, and it looks like a turd. lovely. Almost as hideous as the invicta s1. At least this doesn't look like it's melting. Why why why can't all supercars be as graceful looking as the farboud gts? Can't wait for that one. Hope they're in business long enough for me to buy one in 5-8 yrs...
polus said:
Heres something for Melling to ponder: Dreams are like rainbows. Only idiots chase them.
>> Edited by lap_time on Sunday 28th May 11:08
Ive never heard a more apathetic and mind-numbing phrase that I can only speculate the most un-ambitious and boring individuals have as an outlook on life.
I've got plenty more where that came from...success is a journey not a destination, so stop running...for every winner there are dozens of losers, chances are you're one of them... And I realise that without dreamers, the entire car industry wouldn't exist. SO the quote should read "some dreams...". It just has to be a good looking dream to begin with. And YES I remember the comments I made on the M6 (at least they actually put it into production)
alexkp said:
Dare I say it, I am actually rather bored with these automotive ego trips.
Let me explain:
The only market for a car like this is middle eastern oil rich sheiks who will buy it and put it in their huge underground garages along with a hundred other cars they never use.
The number of these sold will be minute, and it will have no discernible effect on the development of sports cars at all.
Every year, a number of wealthy or well meaning individuals set up companies to build "supercars" that there is no real market for, and within a year or so the project fades away.
Building a fast car for £100,000 is not difficult. Hell, give me a small team and I could do it. Just use Chevy V8 or similar, and modify. The car will be quick, look ok, and handle reasonably just using off the shelf parts.
Build a cracking sports car that sells for 30-50k though, and that is something I would get excited about. Lotus do it, TVR do it, Noble do it, even Porsche do it.
Most of them modufy existing proven engines - except TVR and most of their PR problems result from developing complex engines on insufficient budgets. A lesson to be learned?
This pointless "Hellcat" will be outperformed in every area that matters by a Noble at half the price.
Sir, you have hit the nail on the head.
In my opion the bloke is visionary,who else was trying to put together two Jap. bike blocks onto a common crank 17 years ago? WHOOOOO a 2 litre V8,lightweight with 200BHP? unfortuately he never completed this project as he seems to get bored and run to his next idea.
The Hellcat,I doubt it will sell six,it looks like a pig and since to most of us uninventive people thats all that counts.
And hey,whats the big news in lightweight powerfull engines now,Jap four`s bolted together as a V8!
The Hellcat,I doubt it will sell six,it looks like a pig and since to most of us uninventive people thats all that counts.
And hey,whats the big news in lightweight powerfull engines now,Jap four`s bolted together as a V8!
jonnywalker said:
In my opinion the bloke is visionary,who else was trying to put together two Jap. bike blocks onto a common crank 17 years ago? WHOOOOO a 2 litre V8,lightweight with 200BHP? unfortuately he never completed this project as he seems to get bored and run to his next idea.
The Hellcat,I doubt it will sell six,it looks like a pig and since to most of us uninventive people thats all that counts.
And hey,whats the big news in lightweight powerfull engines now,Jap four`s bolted together as a V8!
So what you're saying is that he couldn't do it and the Japs could. I would like to bolt together two Gold Wing flat sixes to make a 3.6 Flat 12 but lack any skill so am I a visionary? Small V8's aren't really revolutionary. Daimler had a 2.5 V8 in the 60's, Ferrari had a 1.5 V12 in 1947 and Renault and Alfa had 2.0 V6's but nobody really wanted them. From my recollection, the whole point of a V8 is a big capacity unit that sounds like the Earth just opened it's bowels.
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