RE: Michiel van den Brink
Discussion
randlemarcus said:
Twincam16 said:
klassiekerrally said:
Twincam16 said:
What's the Dutch for Carosserie? I hope you build a legacy equal to any Italian or French great.
Hi TC, carrosserie is the Dutch word for the body of a car. I didn't know that word exists in English as well? (Or am I misunderstanding things here?)
Edited by klassiekerrally on Sunday 19th November 19:20
It doesn't - it's a French word that roughly translates as 'coachbuilder' in English (although I understand its meaning is closer to 'body shell designer/builder). The Italian word is Carrozierra. Both are used to describe the great design houses and coachbuilders - Pininfarina, Zagato, Bertone et al.
Just for posterity, and with no ulterior motive, klassiekerrally, could you do me a small favour, and remind me which sort of passport you have, and which language you speak on a daily basis?
Randlemarcus, I said 'it doesn't' in answer to the question 'does that word [carrosserie] exist in English as well?'
It's interesting that the Dutch and French share that word.
randlemarcus said:
Just for posterity, and with no ulterior motive, klassiekerrally, could you do me a small favour, and remind me which sort of passport you have, and which language you speak on a daily basis?
Is my English that bad?
I'm Dutch. Born and raised...
Edited to add:
TC, the Dutch language has a lot of french words in it. 'Trottoir' for 'pavement', 'paraplu' for 'umbrella', 'prostituee' for ..., well you get the point
Edited by klassiekerrally on Monday 20th November 15:21
RubenRocket said:
Hi Michiel,
Once you're at it, why not transform the great (but plain ugly) 430 into your fantastic Dino study as well!
This world could really use some gorgeous mid engined magic again...
Cheers and keep up the good work, Ruben
Once you're at it, why not transform the great (but plain ugly) 430 into your fantastic Dino study as well!
This world could really use some gorgeous mid engined magic again...
Cheers and keep up the good work, Ruben
Thanks.
I'd love to.
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On a similar note Michiel (not that I have any spare cars at hand for you to rebody), but what about some BMW rebodies?
There are so many elegant, definitive designs from BMW - my favourites being the CS, E21 and M1 - that their current obsession with their own controversiality seems to be consuming their design tradition.
Perhaps a CS/E21-inspired rebody of the new 3-series would prompt them back on track?
Also - I've always wanted to ask a car designer this - is there a future for concealed headlights? I always thought pop-up, flop-forward, flip-down, roll-round and vacuum-flap-covered headlights were a great thing for a designer to work with (lowers the frontal area, minimises fussy headlamp treatments, disguises ugly light projectors when not in use etc), but since the demise of the Ferrari 456, Lotus Esprit, Chevrolet Corvette C5 and Pontiac Firebird, it seems there is no other headlight solution other than fixed projectors housed within increasingly ugly, bizarre and shapeless plastic mouldings.
I thought pedestrian crash-protection regulations might be at fault, but surely a lower frontal area offers pedestrians more protection, rather than a monolithic bonnet that crashes into them at waist height.
It's about time someone came up with a concealed headlamp solution for designers to play with, or else we will never have any true successors to such great designs as Guigiaro's Maseratis and Lotuses, or all those great American muscle cars with their sinister-looking full-width blacked-out grilles.
Any ideas? I'd love to know.
There are so many elegant, definitive designs from BMW - my favourites being the CS, E21 and M1 - that their current obsession with their own controversiality seems to be consuming their design tradition.
Perhaps a CS/E21-inspired rebody of the new 3-series would prompt them back on track?
Also - I've always wanted to ask a car designer this - is there a future for concealed headlights? I always thought pop-up, flop-forward, flip-down, roll-round and vacuum-flap-covered headlights were a great thing for a designer to work with (lowers the frontal area, minimises fussy headlamp treatments, disguises ugly light projectors when not in use etc), but since the demise of the Ferrari 456, Lotus Esprit, Chevrolet Corvette C5 and Pontiac Firebird, it seems there is no other headlight solution other than fixed projectors housed within increasingly ugly, bizarre and shapeless plastic mouldings.
I thought pedestrian crash-protection regulations might be at fault, but surely a lower frontal area offers pedestrians more protection, rather than a monolithic bonnet that crashes into them at waist height.
It's about time someone came up with a concealed headlamp solution for designers to play with, or else we will never have any true successors to such great designs as Guigiaro's Maseratis and Lotuses, or all those great American muscle cars with their sinister-looking full-width blacked-out grilles.
Any ideas? I'd love to know.
This is truly great car design.
There is so much mundane stuff and all the guff about flame or edge or whatever.
Never mind Ferrari and stuff I can't afford - could you redesign the Ford's or Vauxhalls and get this eye candy to the masses - i.e. me?
I've been through the designs on Vandenbrink Designs (www.vandenbrinkdesign.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=52&catid=2)and I just wonder why the mass produced stuff doesnt look this good?
There is so much mundane stuff and all the guff about flame or edge or whatever.
Never mind Ferrari and stuff I can't afford - could you redesign the Ford's or Vauxhalls and get this eye candy to the masses - i.e. me?
I've been through the designs on Vandenbrink Designs (www.vandenbrinkdesign.com/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=52&catid=2)and I just wonder why the mass produced stuff doesnt look this good?
And what about making the ugly Boxster look much more like a 550 spyder, and the even uglier Cayman like a 904?
I know those guys from Stola tried a similar thing by customizing the original bodies (which was already a big improvement), but with some serious couchbuilding the result could be really great...
Cheers, Ruben
I know those guys from Stola tried a similar thing by customizing the original bodies (which was already a big improvement), but with some serious couchbuilding the result could be really great...
Cheers, Ruben
Good to know we have such talent on PH.
I for one would love to see someone rebody a Bristol Blenheim. The last to attempt this to a Bristol was Zagato with the 406 - one off specials excepted - and it worked really well. There is a wonderful company producing some fantastic cars there, but the aesthetics split opninion I think it would be fair to say...
I for one would love to see someone rebody a Bristol Blenheim. The last to attempt this to a Bristol was Zagato with the 406 - one off specials excepted - and it worked really well. There is a wonderful company producing some fantastic cars there, but the aesthetics split opninion I think it would be fair to say...
Personally I love the Bristol Blenheim as it is, because it makes sense as a package. I think this is a perfect car for people who like to stand out from the crowd, but don't want to turn heads at the same time. It looks like a big Skoda Rapid coupé, absolutely nothing posh about it, only the price tag...
Cheers, Ruben
Cheers, Ruben
Twincam16 said:
On a similar note Michiel (not that I have any spare cars at hand for you to rebody), but what about some BMW rebodies?
There are so many elegant, definitive designs from BMW - my favourites being the CS, E21 and M1 - that their current obsession with their own controversiality seems to be consuming their design tradition.
Perhaps a CS/E21-inspired rebody of the new 3-series would prompt them back on track?
Also - I've always wanted to ask a car designer this - is there a future for concealed headlights? I always thought pop-up, flop-forward, flip-down, roll-round and vacuum-flap-covered headlights were a great thing for a designer to work with (lowers the frontal area, minimises fussy headlamp treatments, disguises ugly light projectors when not in use etc), but since the demise of the Ferrari 456, Lotus Esprit, Chevrolet Corvette C5 and Pontiac Firebird, it seems there is no other headlight solution other than fixed projectors housed within increasingly ugly, bizarre and shapeless plastic mouldings.
I thought pedestrian crash-protection regulations might be at fault, but surely a lower frontal area offers pedestrians more protection, rather than a monolithic bonnet that crashes into them at waist height.
It's about time someone came up with a concealed headlamp solution for designers to play with, or else we will never have any true successors to such great designs as Guigiaro's Maseratis and Lotuses, or all those great American muscle cars with their sinister-looking full-width blacked-out grilles.
Any ideas? I'd love to know.
There are so many elegant, definitive designs from BMW - my favourites being the CS, E21 and M1 - that their current obsession with their own controversiality seems to be consuming their design tradition.
Perhaps a CS/E21-inspired rebody of the new 3-series would prompt them back on track?
Also - I've always wanted to ask a car designer this - is there a future for concealed headlights? I always thought pop-up, flop-forward, flip-down, roll-round and vacuum-flap-covered headlights were a great thing for a designer to work with (lowers the frontal area, minimises fussy headlamp treatments, disguises ugly light projectors when not in use etc), but since the demise of the Ferrari 456, Lotus Esprit, Chevrolet Corvette C5 and Pontiac Firebird, it seems there is no other headlight solution other than fixed projectors housed within increasingly ugly, bizarre and shapeless plastic mouldings.
I thought pedestrian crash-protection regulations might be at fault, but surely a lower frontal area offers pedestrians more protection, rather than a monolithic bonnet that crashes into them at waist height.
It's about time someone came up with a concealed headlamp solution for designers to play with, or else we will never have any true successors to such great designs as Guigiaro's Maseratis and Lotuses, or all those great American muscle cars with their sinister-looking full-width blacked-out grilles.
Any ideas? I'd love to know.
Twincam16 - I'd also like to know the SP on flip/concealed headlamps. See here for just how 'kin mean the new Camaro would look with concealed lamps
I'll have one please! Can you offer 300 years interest free credit???? And I'll have one of those Camaro's with some concealed headlights for a daily driver too! Bungle
www.turbobungle.com
Twincam16 said:
On a similar note Michiel (not that I have any spare cars at hand for you to rebody), but what about some BMW rebodies?
The costs of the engineering and manufacturing for a handmade one-off or very limited series are too high compared to the prize of a BMW, Lotus, Porsche, etc.
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