RE: Supermarket fuel: is it good enough?
Discussion
UFO 2 NOB said:
apache said:
Tony/UFO does this apply to diesel too? and does super diesel make any difference?
No reports of any diesel problems at all There have been lots of reports in the media of people claiming to have problems with diesel, just as there have been lots of reports of people claiming to have had problems with petrol that just cannot, because of brand, geographical location, etc, be possibly affected either.
It's the placebo effect.
Balmoral Green said:
UFO 2 NOB said:
apache said:
Tony/UFO does this apply to diesel too? and does super diesel make any difference?
No reports of any diesel problems at all There have been lots of reports in the media of people claiming to have problems with diesel, just as there have been lots of reports of people claiming to have had problems with petrol that just cannot, because of brand, geographical location, etc, be possibly affected either.
It's the placebo effect.
In reverse?.....
BBC says Tesco have now stopped selling it at over 200 of their stores too. Apparently even Tescos own tests now confirm "significant silicon contamination"
It still isn't clear if this includes the 99 octane rated fuel.
It looks like this silicon stuff is an additive that was meant for diesel fuel (used as an anti foaming agent), and its been put into unleaded fuel by accident?
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It still isn't clear if this includes the 99 octane rated fuel.
It looks like this silicon stuff is an additive that was meant for diesel fuel (used as an anti foaming agent), and its been put into unleaded fuel by accident?
P,
I work in a busy non frachised workshop and we have seen 11 or so cars this week with running problems due to a failed oxygen sensor.To do a simple test to see if it is the sensor we unplug it then give it a quick run round the block in each case the car runs perfect.We have been draning the tanks and filters before putting a couple of gallons back in then replace the O2 sensor.All of the car so far have had Asda fuel put in them and wonder how many we will see next week!!!!
PJR said:
BBC says Tesco have now stopped selling it at over 200 of their stores too.
It still isn't clear if this includes the 99 octane rated fuel.
P,
It still isn't clear if this includes the 99 octane rated fuel.
P,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6413357
"Morrisons....41 outlets"
Which 41 outlets?
mark r skinner said:
PJR said:
BBC says Tesco have now stopped selling it at over 200 of their stores too.
It still isn't clear if this includes the 99 octane rated fuel.
P,
It still isn't clear if this includes the 99 octane rated fuel.
P,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6413357
"Morrisons....41 outlets"
Which 41 outlets?
Your guess is as good as mine!? The info on the page keeps mutating mind.. But from what I gathered, Tescos and Morrisons have stopped selling the stuff from all the stores in the south east that were apparently served by the fuel depot in Essex.
So, err.. "South east" is about as specific as it gets for now.
While im here.. What is Morrisons slogan again? Something like "More reasons to shop at Morrisons" I guess its more like "More reasons to shop elsewhere" now
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My friend has a nicely modified standard looking subaru which is putting out around 350 BHP.
We went and filled up at Tesco ( this was some 6 months back ), and as soon as we pulled off the forecourt the cars aftermarket knock sensor display attached to the dash started having a spanner attack. ( going from green lights into orange then red ). Then as we started driving down Park street in Bristol it was massively back firing all the way down the street, much to the delight of the local chavs.
Very embarrasing...
He since only runs it on BP Optimax. No problems ever since! I know people state that these super markets only buy their fuel from the same source... but surely something is happening between purchasing and the fuel getting on their forecourt... there are too many reports for this to be coincidence.
We went and filled up at Tesco ( this was some 6 months back ), and as soon as we pulled off the forecourt the cars aftermarket knock sensor display attached to the dash started having a spanner attack. ( going from green lights into orange then red ). Then as we started driving down Park street in Bristol it was massively back firing all the way down the street, much to the delight of the local chavs.
Very embarrasing...
He since only runs it on BP Optimax. No problems ever since! I know people state that these super markets only buy their fuel from the same source... but surely something is happening between purchasing and the fuel getting on their forecourt... there are too many reports for this to be coincidence.
Edited by stuartbuckell on Saturday 3rd March 10:10
After posting to my local TVRCC group, I am now aware of at least one other car that went down immediately after fuelling at Sainsbury Pepper Hill, and another at a nearby Asda.
I spoke to Sainsbury’s, who claimed they had no problem and had a totally different supply chain to Tesco and Morrison’s.
If this is true, there is no possibility that accidental contamination could have affected all the outlets. The possibility of simultaneous accidental contamination in separate supply chains is remote. We should consider the possibility that there has been deliberate introduction of silicon into several supply chains.
With this in mind I ‘made a few phone calls’ and there are ‘ongoing investigations into the possibility that this is terrorist activity’
I spoke to Sainsbury’s, who claimed they had no problem and had a totally different supply chain to Tesco and Morrison’s.
If this is true, there is no possibility that accidental contamination could have affected all the outlets. The possibility of simultaneous accidental contamination in separate supply chains is remote. We should consider the possibility that there has been deliberate introduction of silicon into several supply chains.
With this in mind I ‘made a few phone calls’ and there are ‘ongoing investigations into the possibility that this is terrorist activity’
Edited by uncle fester on Saturday 3rd March 13:19
The one and only time I've bought SUL was from Sainsburys last month, and it cost me at least 60 miles compared to regular UL from Tesco (and Asda a couple of times).
One and only time I've bought "brand" fuel was a tankful of Shell UL and drove to Stranraer and sailed home. That was 5 months ago when I picked it up.
One and only time I've bought "brand" fuel was a tankful of Shell UL and drove to Stranraer and sailed home. That was 5 months ago when I picked it up.
I personally spend on average £500 a month on fuel,i'm a white van man.I used to fill up at supermarkets and collect my reward points like a good little boy.My theory is that the fuel from supermarkets is of a lower quality and i noticed i was getting far less mpg as i would would get from a tank full of Shell or Total diesel.My wife has also noticed her mpg was far less from filling up at Morrisons ,one week whilst doing the school run she moaned about putting more petrol in the car than usual ,i asked her where she filled up."Morrisons" she said .I suggested going to Total which she did .She has not been back to the supermarket filling station since,and has noticed a saving on fuel each week doing the same mileage.
Is it just me or does anyone else share my theory that supermarket fuel is crap?
Is it just me or does anyone else share my theory that supermarket fuel is crap?
mark r skinner said:
I wonder if Tesco/Morrison etc will have the cheek to pass this on........
stuartbuckell said:
BP Optimax
??? Assume late night muddle struck there!
I filled my 350Z with Tesco 99 from a location in one of the counties named as having issues and no probs for me, thank goodness.
Of course the costs will be passed on by the mercenary companies, they have their profits to protect
Edited by FrootBat on Saturday 3rd March 23:42
Uncle Fester said:
After posting to my local TVRCC group, I am now aware of at least one other car that went down immediately after fuelling at Sainsbury Pepper Hill, and another at a nearby Asda.
I spoke to Sainsbury’s, who claimed they had no problem and had a totally different supply chain to Tesco and Morrison’s.
If this is true, there is no possibility that accidental contamination could have affected all the outlets. The possibility of simultaneous accidental contamination in separate supply chains is remote. We should consider the possibility that there has been deliberate introduction of silicon into several supply chains.
With this in mind I ‘made a few phone calls’ and there are ‘ongoing investigations into the possibility that this is terrorist activity’
I spoke to Sainsbury’s, who claimed they had no problem and had a totally different supply chain to Tesco and Morrison’s.
If this is true, there is no possibility that accidental contamination could have affected all the outlets. The possibility of simultaneous accidental contamination in separate supply chains is remote. We should consider the possibility that there has been deliberate introduction of silicon into several supply chains.
With this in mind I ‘made a few phone calls’ and there are ‘ongoing investigations into the possibility that this is terrorist activity’
Edited by uncle fester on Saturday 3rd March 13:19
Sainsburys unleaded has gone up 4p a litre
You pays your money you takes your chance!!!
You pay a cheap ??? price you get shoddy goods no such thing as cheap fuel.
Why do the top fuel companies spend millions on research into fuels and additives?
How much have our rip off supermarkets spent on research into the crap they sell? Not one single penny I would expect. They are parasites on the backs of society.
Same thing goes for our poor British farmers. How much do the supermarkets pay them for their milk and what are the supermarkets massive profits?
You pay a cheap ??? price you get shoddy goods no such thing as cheap fuel.
Why do the top fuel companies spend millions on research into fuels and additives?
How much have our rip off supermarkets spent on research into the crap they sell? Not one single penny I would expect. They are parasites on the backs of society.
Same thing goes for our poor British farmers. How much do the supermarkets pay them for their milk and what are the supermarkets massive profits?
tony220 said:
You pays your money you takes your chance!!!
You pay a cheap ??? price you get shoddy goods no such thing as cheap fuel.
Why do the top fuel companies spend millions on research into fuels and additives?
How much have our rip off supermarkets spent on research into the crap they sell? Not one single penny I would expect. They are parasites on the backs of society.
Same thing goes for our poor British farmers. How much do the supermarkets pay them for their milk and what are the supermarkets massive profits?
You pay a cheap ??? price you get shoddy goods no such thing as cheap fuel.
Why do the top fuel companies spend millions on research into fuels and additives?
How much have our rip off supermarkets spent on research into the crap they sell? Not one single penny I would expect. They are parasites on the backs of society.
Same thing goes for our poor British farmers. How much do the supermarkets pay them for their milk and what are the supermarkets massive profits?
If you read what actually happened then you'll know that this fuel mishap was a mistake which lets face it, could just as easily have happened to any fuel company.
And of course supermarkets don't spend anything on research for fuel. They simply buy the stuff in and resell it as they do for everything else they sell.
Can you honestly say that you never bought anything from a large supermarket chain?
Me thinks you are merely jumping on the media bandwagon.
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