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ali_kat

31,988 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2007
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flemke said:
madazrx7 said:
Easy fixed; white overalls and helmet with tinted visor a la Stig (yes I know you're not a fan)

I understand your desire for anonymity, but I guess sooner or later a PHer will run into you somewhere. (Quite likely already happened). I hope they respect your privacy.

I know or have met quite a few PHers through the years.
It's a bit different when there's a whole group of folks and they're converging on the car you're in. boxedin


I'm sure it could be arranged for you to arrive incognito....... you with someone else and the car on the back of an AA truck hehe

mc_blue

2,548 posts

217 months

Saturday 7th April 2007
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ali_kat said:
flemke said:
madazrx7 said:
Easy fixed; white overalls and helmet with tinted visor a la Stig (yes I know you're not a fan)

I understand your desire for anonymity, but I guess sooner or later a PHer will run into you somewhere. (Quite likely already happened). I hope they respect your privacy.

I know or have met quite a few PHers through the years.
It's a bit different when there's a whole group of folks and they're converging on the car you're in. boxedin


I'm sure it could be arranged for you to arrive incognito....... you with someone else and the car on the back of a Beeches truck hehe


Silent1

19,761 posts

234 months

Saturday 7th April 2007
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said:
[url]Continued from volume 3|topic.asp?h=0&t=226933[/url]


Volume 3? Ted have you been drinking again?

angrys3owner

15,855 posts

228 months

Saturday 7th April 2007
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Silent1 said:
Volume 3? Ted have you been drinking again?


Nope, although I think it should probably be more than volume 3…

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flemke

22,864 posts

236 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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In case anyone is interested, some F1-related images:











with thanks to Joe911 for his continuing patience and enlightenment

vixpy1

42,620 posts

263 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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I think i know those gates, and i can't for the life of me remember where!

olf

11,974 posts

217 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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Bad luck smashing into the back of another F1 like that!

will it polish out?

GuyR

2,196 posts

281 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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Flemke,

Those new uprights, are they CNC milled steel (which would I guess would be the only way of getting a small run made to experiment with without the cost of commissioning the die/template required for forging or casting ).

If so, were the originals forged, cast or milled and what is the effect on weight (presumably negligible and anyway more than offset by the handling improvements).

rgds

Guy

Globulator

13,841 posts

230 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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flemke said:
In case anyone is interested, some F1-related images:



with thanks to Joe911 for his continuing patience and enlightenment
That's a lovely looking wheel, the red arch looks just the right red too on my apple screen, and the brighter rim is Globs approved

That seems to have a brembo caliper on a slotted disc, I'm guessing the drilled discs (floating?) are from your car? What are the original discs on the F1?

I'm guessing your 'weather of choice' is not the scene that greets us in the photo at the bottom, does your new setup help wet/damp/greasy driving at all?

flemke

22,864 posts

236 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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GuyR said:

Flemke,

Those new uprights, are they CNC milled steel (which would I guess would be the only way of getting a small run made to experiment with without the cost of commissioning the die/template required for forging or casting ).

If so, were the originals forged, cast or milled and what is the effect on weight (presumably negligible and anyway more than offset by the handling improvements).

rgds

Guy

Guy,

In the fourth image from top is one of the original rear uprights, which I think we will be able to keep (if we're lucky with the brakes), but the wishbone is new.
The original uprights were cast.
If we do new ones they'll be CNC from billet. With modern alloys you can save weight and get the strength in the places that you need it, whilst also effecting better brake cooling.
Btw, forging costs a lot more than casting. Casting is not that expensive.

flemke

22,864 posts

236 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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Globulator said:
flemke said:
In case anyone is interested, some F1-related images:



with thanks to Joe911 for his continuing patience and enlightenment
That's a lovely looking wheel, the red arch looks just the right red too on my apple screen, and the brighter rim is Globs approved

That seems to have a brembo caliper on a slotted disc, I'm guessing the drilled discs (floating?) are from your car? What are the original discs on the F1?

I'm guessing your 'weather of choice' is not the scene that greets us in the photo at the bottom, does your new setup help wet/damp/greasy driving at all?

The actual colour of the car in that image is shocking pink. It's the original paint on one of the "Lark" GTRs - the same car as in the bottom image.
The discs on all the F1s were floating. The race cars had 18" wheels, whilst the road cars had 17". Road cars came with drilled discs.
The new setup, which is still a work-in-progress, is a lot more stable and more pleasurable to drive, although the ultimate grip is not higher. Elevating that is part of what we'll be doing in June/July, with some changes to dampers/springs/ARB.

flemke

22,864 posts

236 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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vixpy1 said:
I think i know those gates, and i can't for the life of me remember where!

IIRC, it's somewhere in the vicinity of Ascot.

jonseyworld

551 posts

209 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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flemke said:
In case anyone is interested, some F1-related images:











with thanks to Joe911 for his continuing patience and enlightenment


I especially like the bits of metal thumbup

moleamol

15,887 posts

262 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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ducatidesmo said:
Sorry if I am in the wrong thread but where can I find the 200 page thread entitled:
DucatiDesmo-Is this your Mondeo?

LOLLERZ, U is well funni.

Should you not be in a grubby shed somewhere wanking over a Streethawk model?

ilovevolvo

1,832 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Thanks flemke what a site two F1's together if i had been driving past i think i would of crashed.
Lovely to see some dirt on your suspension shows your enjoying it as always.



Russ

GuyR

2,196 posts

281 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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flemke said:

Guy,

In the fourth image from top is one of the original rear uprights, which I think we will be able to keep (if we're lucky with the brakes), but the wishbone is new.
The original uprights were cast.
If we do new ones they'll be CNC from billet. With modern alloys you can save weight and get the strength in the places that you need it, whilst also effecting better brake cooling.
Btw, forging costs a lot more than casting. Casting is not that expensive.


I must have been having brain fade when I typed as I could see the uprights had the original F1 logos on them, must have just confued uprights with wishbones when typing.... banghead

flemke

22,864 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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ilovevolvo said:
Thanks flemke what a site two F1's together if i had been driving past i think i would of crashed.
Lovely to see some dirt on your suspension shows your enjoying it as always.



Russ

As I'm sure you know, if you don't drive a car, it slowly but surely becomes less usable, as things dry out and oil and grease are displaced.
I'd much rather get a car that's been used a lot but used properly than get a garage queen that's sat idle and got ossified and stale.

flemke

22,864 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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GuyR said:
flemke said:

Guy,

In the fourth image from top is one of the original rear uprights, which I think we will be able to keep (if we're lucky with the brakes), but the wishbone is new.
The original uprights were cast.
If we do new ones they'll be CNC from billet. With modern alloys you can save weight and get the strength in the places that you need it, whilst also effecting better brake cooling.
Btw, forging costs a lot more than casting. Casting is not that expensive.


I must have been having brain fade when I typed as I could see the uprights had the original F1 logos on them, must have just confued uprights with wishbones when typing.... banghead

IIRC, the main parts of the car that are castings are the uprights, the front rockers (in image 3), the front bulkhead/steering rack, the block and the transaxle case. I suppose the cam covers are cast, as would be other bits such as water and oil pump housings. Not sure about the oil tank.

The original wishbones were all CNC'd. The alloy was the best available at the time, although there is a new alloy which we're using which I'm told has a slightly higher S-W ratio and is more resistant to internal corrosion.

Image 5 is a corner of one of the front subframes, which were also CNC'd. Their function was to attach to the front of the tub via the special assymmetrical nylon/rubber/steel bushes which gave compliance whilst fixing the trail position, and to provide attachment points for the rockers and the lower wishbones (the latter off a pivot rod which can be seen in the LRH corner of the image).

Timmy2TARs

656 posts

209 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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flemke said:
vixpy1 said:
I think i know those gates, and i can't for the life of me remember where!

IIRC, it's somewhere in the vicinity of Ascot.


Yup - on the road between the peanut roundabout and Imperial College's Silwood Park campus.

robbiemeister

1,307 posts

269 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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GuyR said:

I must have been having brain fade when I typed as I could see the uprights had the original F1 logos on them, must have just confued uprights with wishbones when typing.... banghead


Brown nose!
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