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RobboC

1,537 posts

262 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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I think its pretty obvious that its Tony Robinson.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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flemke said:
clonmult said:
flemke said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I remember reading, ages ago, about some guy who wanted his F1 in a certain purple and some McLaren engineer (I think it was) hunted out the perfect Aubergine to demonstrate the colour.

I think this is just brilliant biggrin

Also, I was at my Mum's a couple of weekends ago and I found my 1:18 F1 that I forgot I had - my 3 year old son loved it. It was with my 1:18 XJ220 and 1:18 XK120 cloud9
They made two purple cars, both for Brits. One is a comedic actor, the other was known to sing the occasional song.
Would that be the same comedic F1 owning actor who happened to drive into the back of something like a Montego somewhere on the coast of the North West of England many years back? One of my sisters friends worked in a garage where it was initially taken ... their surprise at normally dealing with run of the mill motoring incidents and then having a slightly knocked F1 ....
That shows you what can happen to anyone. As we know from his racing history over the past decade, he's a very capable man behind the wheel. He's a serious man as well - not the type to go hooning around like a fool.
I'm not sure, but ISTR that he was at a RAB and the driver ahead started to set off, but then hit the brakes. Always a clever move.
I've never doubted how intelligent and capable he is, and indeed it will no doubt happen to most of us in our time .... and having had exactly the same thing happen to me (three times in 20 years), I can appreciate the situation.

R5GTTgaz

7,897 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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clonmult said:
flemke said:
clonmult said:
flemke said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I remember reading, ages ago, about some guy who wanted his F1 in a certain purple and some McLaren engineer (I think it was) hunted out the perfect Aubergine to demonstrate the colour.

I think this is just brilliant biggrin

Also, I was at my Mum's a couple of weekends ago and I found my 1:18 F1 that I forgot I had - my 3 year old son loved it. It was with my 1:18 XJ220 and 1:18 XK120 cloud9
They made two purple cars, both for Brits. One is a comedic actor, the other was known to sing the occasional song.
Would that be the same comedic F1 owning actor who happened to drive into the back of something like a Montego somewhere on the coast of the North West of England many years back? One of my sisters friends worked in a garage where it was initially taken ... their surprise at normally dealing with run of the mill motoring incidents and then having a slightly knocked F1 ....
That shows you what can happen to anyone. As we know from his racing history over the past decade, he's a very capable man behind the wheel. He's a serious man as well - not the type to go hooning around like a fool.
I'm not sure, but ISTR that he was at a RAB and the driver ahead started to set off, but then hit the brakes. Always a clever move.
I've never doubted how intelligent and capable he is, and indeed it will no doubt happen to most of us in our time .... and having had exactly the same thing happen to me (three times in 20 years), I can appreciate the situation.
Thats all well and good but who the hell is it?

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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RobboC said:
Gratuitous Macca shots please! biggrinwink
I couldn't post one if you put a gun to my head. Don't really have that many, for that matter.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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R5GTTgaz said:
clonmult said:
flemke said:
clonmult said:
flemke said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I remember reading, ages ago, about some guy who wanted his F1 in a certain purple and some McLaren engineer (I think it was) hunted out the perfect Aubergine to demonstrate the colour.

I think this is just brilliant biggrin

Also, I was at my Mum's a couple of weekends ago and I found my 1:18 F1 that I forgot I had - my 3 year old son loved it. It was with my 1:18 XJ220 and 1:18 XK120 cloud9
They made two purple cars, both for Brits. One is a comedic actor, the other was known to sing the occasional song.
Would that be the same comedic F1 owning actor who happened to drive into the back of something like a Montego somewhere on the coast of the North West of England many years back? One of my sisters friends worked in a garage where it was initially taken ... their surprise at normally dealing with run of the mill motoring incidents and then having a slightly knocked F1 ....
That shows you what can happen to anyone. As we know from his racing history over the past decade, he's a very capable man behind the wheel. He's a serious man as well - not the type to go hooning around like a fool.
I'm not sure, but ISTR that he was at a RAB and the driver ahead started to set off, but then hit the brakes. Always a clever move.
I've never doubted how intelligent and capable he is, and indeed it will no doubt happen to most of us in our time .... and having had exactly the same thing happen to me (three times in 20 years), I can appreciate the situation.
Thats all well and good but who the hell is it?
Related to who RobboC mentioned - "I have a cunning plan" ...

hugoagogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Ron Atkinson?

Archbishop Rowan Williams?

someone like that?

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

RobboC

1,537 posts

262 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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flemke said:
RobboC said:
Gratuitous Macca shots please! biggrinwink
I couldn't post one if you put a gun to my head. Don't really have that many, for that matter.
Really? Through choice?

Think my house, or at lease study would be adorned with pictures of an F1, especially the engine bay *shifts in seat*, make a grown man cry laugh

andyps

7,817 posts

283 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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clonmult said:
flemke said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I remember reading, ages ago, about some guy who wanted his F1 in a certain purple and some McLaren engineer (I think it was) hunted out the perfect Aubergine to demonstrate the colour.

I think this is just brilliant biggrin

Also, I was at my Mum's a couple of weekends ago and I found my 1:18 F1 that I forgot I had - my 3 year old son loved it. It was with my 1:18 XJ220 and 1:18 XK120 cloud9
They made two purple cars, both for Brits. One is a comedic actor, the other was known to sing the occasional song.
Would that be the same comedic F1 owning actor who happened to drive into the back of something like a Montego somewhere on the coast of the North West of England many years back? One of my sisters friends worked in a garage where it was initially taken ... their surprise at normally dealing with run of the mill motoring incidents and then having a slightly knocked F1 ....
My Dad passed the scene of the accident fairly soon after it had happened, there were a lot of people around helping out and as it looked fairly nasty (turned out not to be) Dad continued on his way without looking too closely beyond knowing it was an F1 involved. When it was in the papers later he wished he had got his camera out and taken some pictures, but hadn't done so as photographing someone hurt did not appeal.

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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andyps said:
clonmult said:
flemke said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I remember reading, ages ago, about some guy who wanted his F1 in a certain purple and some McLaren engineer (I think it was) hunted out the perfect Aubergine to demonstrate the colour.

I think this is just brilliant biggrin

Also, I was at my Mum's a couple of weekends ago and I found my 1:18 F1 that I forgot I had - my 3 year old son loved it. It was with my 1:18 XJ220 and 1:18 XK120 cloud9
They made two purple cars, both for Brits. One is a comedic actor, the other was known to sing the occasional song.
Would that be the same comedic F1 owning actor who happened to drive into the back of something like a Montego somewhere on the coast of the North West of England many years back? One of my sisters friends worked in a garage where it was initially taken ... their surprise at normally dealing with run of the mill motoring incidents and then having a slightly knocked F1 ....
My Dad passed the scene of the accident fairly soon after it had happened, there were a lot of people around helping out and as it looked fairly nasty (turned out not to be) Dad continued on his way without looking too closely beyond knowing it was an F1 involved. When it was in the papers later he wished he had got his camera out and taken some pictures, but hadn't done so as photographing someone hurt did not appeal.
Sensible fella - I vaguely remember seeing pictures of the F1 in the local rags, and it did look a serious mess at the front end from what i remember, so would have been reasonable to believe it could have been nasty.

Alfie Noakes

1,307 posts

271 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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flemke said:
LongLiveTazio said:
I feel the XJ220 is a bit maligned, despite having some failings - but doesn't everything? Partially because it's a poster car from my childhood, I still love how they look; they are incredibly wide, mind you! A carbon bodied one with some modern tweakery must feel pretty special...
The guys at McLaren brought one in during the early stages of the F1 project (along with an NSX and F40).
They were genuinely incredulous at how much of it turned out to be wasted space.
IIRC The Bat was pretty disgusted with the F40 too.

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Obviously you've had a fair bit of work done to the oily bits of your car, yet this process has taken a long time and is a work in progress. When was the last time you drove a standard F1? Personally speaking I'd find the development hard at times without some kind of control example to reference - I don't know if I'd be able to do it on feel alone and keep some kind of objective target in mind. If you have driven a standard one recently, does it help to continue to give your car a context to work from?

crankshaft

212 posts

207 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Flemke, I was wondering if you are familiar with Gordon Murray's Project T25? If so, what are your thoughts?
I hope it happens - it's almost certainly the only way I'll ever get into a car designed by GM.

R5GTTgaz

7,897 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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crankshaft said:
Flemke, I was wondering if you are familiar with Gordon Murray's Project T25? If so, what are your thoughts?
I hope it happens - it's almost certainly the only way I'll ever get into a car designed by GM.
Just to add; is it true the T25 won't be out until 2012?

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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LongLiveTazio said:
Obviously you've had a fair bit of work done to the oily bits of your car, yet this process has taken a long time and is a work in progress. When was the last time you drove a standard F1? Personally speaking I'd find the development hard at times without some kind of control example to reference - I don't know if I'd be able to do it on feel alone and keep some kind of objective target in mind. If you have driven a standard one recently, does it help to continue to give your car a context to work from?
The last time that I drove a standard car was either 2 or 3 years ago, I can't remember exactly. I could drive a standard one whenever I like, but it's not really necessary at this point.
Just this afternoon I spent a half hour discussing how the car handles with a guy who's driven mine many times and who is one of the most capable and analytical drivers that I know. We're agreed on what the issues are.
For me, a couple traits of the original car are far enough from what I want that I feel no need to revisit them. The car as it is now is a much better benchmark, because it is closer to being right.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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crankshaft said:
Flemke, I was wondering if you are familiar with Gordon Murray's Project T25? If so, what are your thoughts?
I hope it happens - it's almost certainly the only way I'll ever get into a car designed by GM.
I don't know much more than what you do. It would be rude of me to pry into it.
In that GM's original idea is now a decade old, and all the big carmakers are focusing on wee city cars, at times I fear that it's likely that GM's ideas will be either usurped or innocently repeated by outfits with massively greater physical and financial resources than what he has.
On the other hand, he is a seriously smart dude, so I think it'll be fine. I also think that you'll find that the car has a sociological dimension which is probably not being pursued by the competitors.

hurstg01

2,918 posts

244 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Here's a nIce blue already on an F1, this time in the US. What do you think Flemke?




MitchT

15,883 posts

210 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Jenx said:
And what about this for a colour choice? biggrin

I absolutely love that colour. It reminds me of BMW's 'Atlantis Blue'. I've been hunting for an Atlantis Blue E36 M3 Evo for what seems like ages, but to no avail. The only one I found had an SMG gearbox, which I'm not keen on. To bring the conversation back on topic, I do believe the E36 M3 Evo has, (very broadly speaking), one half of the McLaren F1's V12 under its bonnet!

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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hurstg01 said:
Here's a nIce blue already on an F1, this time in the US. What do you think Flemke?



I know the colour. To my eye, it's too "GT", too "country club" for what lies underneath.
On a proper GT, be that an Aston or a front-engine Ferrari, or maybe, maybe a Murcielago, it could work. The thing is, they are refined cars.
The F1 is not refined. It is closer to brutal than to refined, and I think the colour needs to be true to that character.

flemke

22,865 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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MitchT said:
I do believe the E36 M3 Evo has, (very broadly speaking), one half of the McLaren F1's V12 under its bonnet!
They made the F1's engine from scratch, but of course when they designed it they hadn't forgotten everything that they had learned and developed with their other engines.
I obviously know little about pretty much everything, but ISTM that in this world there are three major builders of great road car engines - Honda, Ferrari and BMW.
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