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Glad to hear you are ok, sorry about your car. You are by no means the first or will be the last to bash one, so don't feel too gutted.
Not being able to view close up pictures my guess is you maybe lucky and have not damaged the impact structure bonded assy but just got away with a front bumper, front body shell, front floor quarter, radiator duct, radiator and a few mechanical bits. As McLaren F1 repairs go it looks to be a very straight forward job. I'm sure Harold and his boys will have you back on the road in no time.
When you talk to him next ask him about a certain Sultan's car that arrived in a box without any prior warning. One of his mechanics tried to squeeze it under the central reservation armco. The armco won and he was very lucky to escape relatively unscathed. If he had a passenger they would have lost their legs as the side impact damage from a post extended up to the main tunnels of the chassis.
I was asked if I could assess the damage and when I mentioned we could fix it they seemed very relieved, right up to the point I said we can rebuild but we would need to replace everything and base the rebuild around the RHS door which was the only salvageable part of the car to build from.
As you correctly mentioned carbon fibre is great at absorbing energy in an impact which meant you were in one of the safest cars on the road. Unlike a metal car the energy at the impact is not transmitted to other areas of the car so the damage is kept local (assumming the parts are designed properly). What do you estimate your impact speed was, it couldn't have been much more than 25-30mph.
Also please shout if I can be of any help.
Not being able to view close up pictures my guess is you maybe lucky and have not damaged the impact structure bonded assy but just got away with a front bumper, front body shell, front floor quarter, radiator duct, radiator and a few mechanical bits. As McLaren F1 repairs go it looks to be a very straight forward job. I'm sure Harold and his boys will have you back on the road in no time.
When you talk to him next ask him about a certain Sultan's car that arrived in a box without any prior warning. One of his mechanics tried to squeeze it under the central reservation armco. The armco won and he was very lucky to escape relatively unscathed. If he had a passenger they would have lost their legs as the side impact damage from a post extended up to the main tunnels of the chassis.
I was asked if I could assess the damage and when I mentioned we could fix it they seemed very relieved, right up to the point I said we can rebuild but we would need to replace everything and base the rebuild around the RHS door which was the only salvageable part of the car to build from.
As you correctly mentioned carbon fibre is great at absorbing energy in an impact which meant you were in one of the safest cars on the road. Unlike a metal car the energy at the impact is not transmitted to other areas of the car so the damage is kept local (assumming the parts are designed properly). What do you estimate your impact speed was, it couldn't have been much more than 25-30mph.
Also please shout if I can be of any help.
Edited by marine boy on Tuesday 3rd August 20:30
this has probably already been commented on already so apologies if it has - however according to wrecked exotics flemke is american. or have i missed something in the thread? damage estimated at $135000.00.
anyway, sad that it is to see the car in such a state the important thing is that mr f is ok.
anyway, sad that it is to see the car in such a state the important thing is that mr f is ok.
flemke said:
Dale19 said:
Do you think this accident will change your willingness to use the car in the future?
Probably not.The overall driving environment is steadily worsening, so that will affect my willingness to use it. I really wish that I had more insight into the precise factors that brought this about, as that could potentially influence my future actions.
LongLiveTazio said:
flemke said:
Dale19 said:
Do you think this accident will change your willingness to use the car in the future?
Probably not.The overall driving environment is steadily worsening, so that will affect my willingness to use it. I really wish that I had more insight into the precise factors that brought this about, as that could potentially influence my future actions.
Mr B
Flemke I've never really read any of these threads, I dip in and out now and again but they are so bloody long it's hard to pick out the bits I would actually be interested in! Anyway....the point of my post was firstly to say I'm pleased you're ok and no-one was hurt! Progress pictures would be amazing if you would be good enough to show them; not many people get the chance to experience these cars, so it would be great if you could share with us your dealings with the factory!
Glad to hear you are well Flemke and that the car will be reborn again either in its "Smuf blue" or in maybe a new colour?? Ever since first seeing the pictures I have been eagerly waiting to hear that everyone is ok from yourself and not just listening to the media gossip.
I wouldn't blame you for keeping any new colour news up your sleave from us, so we can all speculate on what its going to be. I'm sure after many pages of ideas everyone will be keen to see what you go for. As mentioned pictures would be interesting of the rebuild so we can see the details Mclaren put into it. Do they send you a diary of updates of the work on request or is it part and parcel of the process? Is there any/many modifications that the factory offer now with a rebuild? I have seen upgraded lights are available?
Hope you can keep us in the picture with visual updates of the build (even in black and white if your keeping any new colours up your sleave!)
Seeing the pictures all over the internet must be frustrating, and it would give you no choice but to tell the insurance company weather you chose to fund the repairs or claim they will know its your car sadly.
flemke said:
Soovy said:
Flemke, is the car now with McLaren?
As someone has previously said, updates and photos of the car as it is brought back to 100% would be most interesting, if you are minded to share them.
History will show that sometime this month it arrived there. As someone has previously said, updates and photos of the car as it is brought back to 100% would be most interesting, if you are minded to share them.
If a 3rd party pulls out directly into your path sometimes there is nothing you can do, that's a fact and of course an accident.It's all well and good saying Flemke should drive to the current situation/conditions but if we all done this we'd never travel anywhere! Accidents do happen, accidents by nature are unforeseen.
Obviously we can all agree that it's great news no one was injured, just potentially could have been alot worse.Good luck with the repairs Flemke, i'm sure repairs will be 100%.Time heals bad memories,chin up!
Obviously we can all agree that it's great news no one was injured, just potentially could have been alot worse.Good luck with the repairs Flemke, i'm sure repairs will be 100%.Time heals bad memories,chin up!
my point was that the damaged car has already been highlighted on that particular website with an accompanying write up.
i know that many of the write ups are full of factual errors & they tend to over-dramatise the accidents.
the fact that that mr f manages to keep a low profile, as is his entitlement, is to be admired in my opinion.
the important thing to rememebr is that mr f is ok. the car can be repaired & will probably come back even better than it was before.
i know that many of the write ups are full of factual errors & they tend to over-dramatise the accidents.
the fact that that mr f manages to keep a low profile, as is his entitlement, is to be admired in my opinion.
the important thing to rememebr is that mr f is ok. the car can be repaired & will probably come back even better than it was before.
Digger said:
flemke said:
Dale19 said:
Do you think this accident will change your willingness to use the car in the future?
Probably not.The overall driving environment is steadily worsening, so that will affect my willingness to use it. I really wish that I had more insight into the precise factors that brought this about, as that could potentially influence my future actions.
Mazda Baiter said:
Yeah, like I said a couple of pages ago, the damage looks comparable to Rowan Atkinson's accident, which apparently was at a stupidly slow speed.
I hope it isn't too bad though.
Do you have any photos of your own with any more detail? Or was it whisked straight off to Woking?
I didn't take any pictures. I'm not a picture-taking kind-of-guy, and anyhow I wasn't looking for future reminders of the incident.I hope it isn't too bad though.
Do you have any photos of your own with any more detail? Or was it whisked straight off to Woking?
flemke said:
mr bridger said:
Flemke,
Sorry to hear about this.
As we both know, the car will be just fine, & more importantly no personal injuries sustained.
Best wishes,
Mr B.
Cheers, sir.Sorry to hear about this.
As we both know, the car will be just fine, & more importantly no personal injuries sustained.
Best wishes,
Mr B.
I'm sure it wasn't intended that way Edited by Silent1 on Wednesday 4th August 01:13
marine boy said:
Glad to hear you are ok, sorry about your car. You are by no means the first or will be the last to bash one, so don't feel too gutted.
Not being able to view close up pictures my guess is you maybe lucky and have not damaged the impact structure bonded assy but just got away with a front bumper, front body shell, front floor quarter, radiator duct, radiator and a few mechanical bits. As McLaren F1 repairs go it looks to be a very straight forward job. I'm sure Harold and his boys will have you back on the road in no time.
When you talk to him next ask him about a certain Sultan's car that arrived in a box without any prior warning. One of his mechanics tried to squeeze it under the central reservation armco. The armco won and he was very lucky to escape relatively unscathed. If he had a passenger they would have lost their legs as the side impact damage from a post extended up to the main tunnels of the chassis.
I was asked if I could assess the damage and when I mentioned we could fix it they seemed very relieved, right up to the point I said we can rebuild but we would need to replace everything and base the rebuild around the RHS door which was the only salvageable part of the car to build from.
As you correctly mentioned carbon fibre is great at absorbing energy in an impact which meant you were in one of the safest cars on the road. Unlike a metal car the energy at the impact is not transmitted to other areas of the car so the damage is kept local (assumming the parts are designed properly). What do you estimate your impact speed was, it couldn't have been much more than 25-30mph.
Also please shout if I can be of any help.
Very kind of you, thanks. Not being able to view close up pictures my guess is you maybe lucky and have not damaged the impact structure bonded assy but just got away with a front bumper, front body shell, front floor quarter, radiator duct, radiator and a few mechanical bits. As McLaren F1 repairs go it looks to be a very straight forward job. I'm sure Harold and his boys will have you back on the road in no time.
When you talk to him next ask him about a certain Sultan's car that arrived in a box without any prior warning. One of his mechanics tried to squeeze it under the central reservation armco. The armco won and he was very lucky to escape relatively unscathed. If he had a passenger they would have lost their legs as the side impact damage from a post extended up to the main tunnels of the chassis.
I was asked if I could assess the damage and when I mentioned we could fix it they seemed very relieved, right up to the point I said we can rebuild but we would need to replace everything and base the rebuild around the RHS door which was the only salvageable part of the car to build from.
As you correctly mentioned carbon fibre is great at absorbing energy in an impact which meant you were in one of the safest cars on the road. Unlike a metal car the energy at the impact is not transmitted to other areas of the car so the damage is kept local (assumming the parts are designed properly). What do you estimate your impact speed was, it couldn't have been much more than 25-30mph.
Also please shout if I can be of any help.
Impact speed would have been, we reckoned, no more than 20, maybe less.
Btw, were you saying that the monarch's car was written off?
matc said:
Flemke I've never really read any of these threads, I dip in and out now and again but they are so bloody long it's hard to pick out the bits I would actually be interested in! Anyway....the point of my post was firstly to say I'm pleased you're ok and no-one was hurt! Progress pictures would be amazing if you would be good enough to show them; not many people get the chance to experience these cars, so it would be great if you could share with us your dealings with the factory!
I've no predisposition one way or the other, but any in-progress photos that I had taken at the factory I would consider to belong to both the factory and me, so to speak. I would not publicise them with their agreement, which might not be readily forthcoming. flemke said:
Btw, were you saying that the monarch's car was written off?
Isn't it still running around?... Saying that I know of a carrera gt that was written off and was due to go back to Porsche to be crushed/scrapped and someone has managed to purchase it and rebuild it using fibreglass
GEORDIE_BOY said:
...give you no choice but to tell the insurance company weather you chose to fund the repairs or claim they will know its your car sadly.
I read this reply over and over and still makes no sence to me. Am I being thick or am I reading correct at your little bit a cryptic/secret reply thats we've all grown to love about some of your posts? If sometime this month it arrived there then it can only of been Sunday Monday or indeed today? lol
The terms of the insurance, as normal, require the policy holder to inform the underwriter of any material information. Even if I were not to disclose now, I would be obliged to disclose at renewal. I have already informed them.flemke said:
Soovy said:
Flemke, is the car now with McLaren?
As someone has previously said, updates and photos of the car as it is brought back to 100% would be most interesting, if you are minded to share them.
History will show that sometime this month it arrived there. As someone has previously said, updates and photos of the car as it is brought back to 100% would be most interesting, if you are minded to share them.
What I meant about "History will show..." was that I would rather not say if/when it's gone there already, because it really should not matter to anyone. I try to reply to any and all comments addressed here to me, but sometimes I would prefer to keep something private, so I reply without really answering.
Cheers.
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