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Rich_W said:
I didn't mean lead times. I meant when did he place the order. The inference I got was that by the time they unveiled the car publically the first time (Geneva?) they'd already taken the 350 slots.
The McLaren P1 was unveiled publicly for the fist time at the Paris Motor Show in September 2012. It was not too much earlier than that point when they began accepting the first deposits. The Production version was what was unveiled in Geneva about 6 months later, in May 2013. At that point the Paris concept had already toured a number of the major markets for private reveals of the car and secured more than half of the deposits to fill their 375 slot allocation along the way. Then another 6 months later they released news that the P1 was sold out, in November 2013. They currently have a queue of additional people who have expressed an interest should any of the remaining build slots open up.
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flemke - good to know you are well and great to see you back contributing. Look forward to all the insights you care to share about P1 ownership when you have the time.
Will you be pairing the P1's chassis number with that of your F1?
>8^)
ER
flemke said:
thegreenhell said:
This needs another Chris Harris video: F1 and P1 compared.
Something better may be in the works. 
andyps said:
flemke said:
thegreenhell said:
This needs another Chris Harris video: F1 and P1 compared.
Something better may be in the works. test said:
The P1 had moved the game on a huge amount, its useable everywhere and soo fast. Yet the F1 (Flemke improved version) is the car I'd choose to have in my fantasy garage since it's more analogue by comparison and the rewards for driving it well are so much higher than with the P1.YOu can take 1 more passenger it has the luggage option and it will always be the first McLaren hypercar so will always be "The Daddy"
"it takes a carefully selected team of 82 highly skilled technicians 17 days to craft a McLaren P1"
"375 cars scheduled will be built at the rate of one a day, with production due to run until mid-2015."
http://cars.mclaren.com/featured-articles/mclaren-...
"375 cars scheduled will be built at the rate of one a day, with production due to run until mid-2015."
http://cars.mclaren.com/featured-articles/mclaren-...
Monkeylegend said:
GALLARDOGUY said:
ralphrj said:
They make 1 a day. Production should be complete by mid 2015 (if not earlier).
No. No, they don't.It does not take one day to make a P1.
ralphrj said:
^This but don't just take McLaren's word for it. It just so happens that I work at the facility that McLaren use to shakedown all their cars before deliver so every P1 passes my office window. Currently they are going passed at the rate of 1 a day.
You should be posting in first world problems thread.Life's a b
h, I have jut watched another P1 drive past my window, when will it all end 
Rich_W said:
andyps said:
flemke said:
thegreenhell said:
This needs another Chris Harris video: F1 and P1 compared.
Something better may be in the works. test said:
The P1 had moved the game on a huge amount, its useable everywhere and soo fast. Yet the F1 (Flemke improved version) is the car I'd choose to have in my fantasy garage since it's more analogue by comparison and the rewards for driving it well are so much higher than with the P1.YOu can take 1 more passenger it has the luggage option and it will always be the first McLaren hypercar so will always be "The Daddy"
thegreenhell said:
I think he's going to let some hotshoe demonstrate the Nurburgring laptimes that McLaren won't tell us.
I hope so. Would finally put to bed the nonsense of the "it's too dangerous to drive your hypercar at the 'ring and we don't want to encourage others to drive their hypercar fast at the 'ring" 
It's funny. Flemke gets his F1 worked on by companies other than McLaren (His car was spotted under cover in the workshop of another company a few years back and I believe he's said as much elsewhere) IIRC he's hinted they (McLaren) aren't pleased about cars going outside their network. (But I defer to him telling his side) Despite the alternatives like Lanzante.
If he then let Marc Lieb round the ring in his P1 and released that time. Not only will they implode. He can forget all about warranty cover for the P1
Without specifically talking about Flemke, how can manufacturers withdraw support based on their owners doing things like lending to journalists or hot shoes?
Surely if it's been treated in accordance with the handbook advice, not over-revved etc., then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?
With the F1, as I understand it McL aren't worried about guys like Lazante doing regular maintenance work etc., but they weren't particularly overjoyed at Flemke getting new uprights etc. made! They were still willing to repair the car after its shunt however...
Surely if it's been treated in accordance with the handbook advice, not over-revved etc., then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?
With the F1, as I understand it McL aren't worried about guys like Lazante doing regular maintenance work etc., but they weren't particularly overjoyed at Flemke getting new uprights etc. made! They were still willing to repair the car after its shunt however...
You guys might be missing the bigger point - when it comes to their road cars McLaren are an automotive manufacturer, not a tuning shop. They certified the F1 to be legal, functional and conforming to safety laws in one specification and one time period. They can't start creating one-off modifications that potentially alter the performance of the car without fully testing them, otherwise they open themselves up to liability. This development and testing are also not things they are keen to do with a project that was essentially put to rest about 15 years ago.
They were wrong to deny flemke access to certain vehicle components and he was able to sort that out, but to avoid involvement in the modification process was certainly appropriate.
>8^)
ER
They were wrong to deny flemke access to certain vehicle components and he was able to sort that out, but to avoid involvement in the modification process was certainly appropriate.
>8^)
ER
Absolutely agree - I wouldn't expect Mclaren to actively support modifications and tuning...
What I was getting at is the frequent mentions on hypercar threads, especially Ferrari but also Mclaren and others, that factory support (which seems to imply servicing/warrantee/repairs) being withdrawn if an owner does something the manufacturer doesn't like. Is that a real threat?
What I was getting at is the frequent mentions on hypercar threads, especially Ferrari but also Mclaren and others, that factory support (which seems to imply servicing/warrantee/repairs) being withdrawn if an owner does something the manufacturer doesn't like. Is that a real threat?
Sway said:
Without specifically talking about Flemke, how can manufacturers withdraw support based on their owners doing things like lending to journalists or hot shoes?
Surely if it's been treated in accordance with the handbook advice, not over-revved etc., then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?
With the F1, as I understand it McL aren't worried about guys like Lazante doing regular maintenance work etc., but they weren't particularly overjoyed at Flemke getting new uprights etc. made! They were still willing to repair the car after its shunt however...
My comment above was tongue in cheekSurely if it's been treated in accordance with the handbook advice, not over-revved etc., then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on?
With the F1, as I understand it McL aren't worried about guys like Lazante doing regular maintenance work etc., but they weren't particularly overjoyed at Flemke getting new uprights etc. made! They were still willing to repair the car after its shunt however...
But thinking about it. I would imagine that in the small print it will say "Track driving is stressful to components and may invalidate warranty". And I daresay that applies to every manufacturer you can think of, not just McLaren.
Remember warranty is for manufacturer defect. Not a cover all for every thing that could go wrong with a car. And realistically, they're selling P1 as a road car. So can't account for an owner doing 10 ring laps back to back and then breaking something on a kerb.
Peloton25 said:
Name rings no bells for me of any past F1 owners, but the early years have been hard to gather data from and we certainly don't know everything. Anyway, don't even know who he is.
>8^)
ER
One day there will be a device where you can enter someone's name and see if there any information about them.>8^)
ER
Peloton25 said:
Name rings no bells for me of any past F1 owners, but the early years have been hard to gather data from and we certainly don't know everything. Anyway, don't even know who he is.
>8^)
ER
He was quite a well known name in the '90s and I suspect most people have heard of him so no internet points for claiming not to know his name I'm afraid. >8^)
ER
It might not have been him of course and seeing as it was coming out of Silverstone race course it's possible if it was him he might have been driving someone else's car anyway, still nice to see one in the road being driven properly. From what I remember it sounded like foot to the floor acceleration in second gear and he was gone, the noise was pretty impressive.
Thanks for the replies anyway.
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