Discussion
TurboTerrific9 said:
flemke said:
We know that there are huge disparities in people's wealth. We know that some of the things that money can buy are "nicer" than others, and that the wealthier people will tend to end up with the nicer ones. IMO, problems arise when wealthy people believe that they especially deserve their wealth, and when they (appear to) try to glorify their wealth and to glorify themselves in their wealth.
I understand your point, however, and to play devils advocate here, I'm guessing the only person that any of us can relate to who was actually on the tour was a certain Mr Rowan Atkinson - at least in his public persona - someone who doesn't appear to fit the above stereotype.
heads. Certainly not all F1 owners are d
heads and, indeed, two of my best friends are owners and are proper people.On the other hand, at this event one of the attending owners (not Rowan Atkinson) is considered by many (including other F1 owners) who have dealt with him to be a liar and a fraud.
Other things being equal, I'd rather take my chances with normal people.
Cheers.
minimalist said:
flemke said:
"....in my experience, the wealthy comprise a higher proportion of dheads than the general population does.
Would you mind if I used this quote on the cover of my new get-rich-quick book? heads than the general population does.heads out there that the quote would boost your sales?Miocene said:
flemke said:
The guy responsible for this thing of beauty (cough),
is called Jean-Claude Biver, who runs the watch division at LVMH.
All that money and they can't even line up four measly bolts...is called Jean-Claude Biver, who runs the watch division at LVMH.
If you're going to go to the trouble of gratuitously using in the most conspicuous location some arcane, pretentious screw head that by its nature demands alignment, you might want to consider aligning the bloody thing.
Urban Sports said:
Flemke, did you take any extra driving tuition after you stacked the F1?
As it happened, my passenger at the time was one of the most highly rated Police Advanced Driving Instructors in the UK and probably the world. He is a friend, but I have also taken formal instruction from him a number of times.I associate "stacking" a car with the driver's making an unforced mistake, or possibly suffering a mechanical problem, leading to a crash. In the case of my collision, I was driving in a clear lane at maybe 70 mph when a car in a parallel lane, traveling at maybe 15 mph, suddenly and without indicating pulled in front of me. My choices were to hit the back of him at a speed differential of perhaps 40 mph or to go into the space that he had just vacated and hope that I could find enough empty road, or, that I could get my car stopped before I reached the car that had been ahead of him before he swerved. I chose the latter, and would do so again. In the event there was no available empty road, and I could not get my car fully stopped in time, although my impact speed was 15-20 mph, which meant a much lesser impact that the 40 mph alternative. I myself would not call that "stacking", but maybe my definition is wrong.
In the last 15 years I have taken a great deal of formal advanced driving training, as well as spending considerable time driving with advanced drivers, several of whom are friends of mine and who have participated in this thread. I take road driving very seriously and it interests me more than circuit driving does.
flemke said:
Urban Sports said:
Flemke, did you take any extra driving tuition after you stacked the F1?
As it happened, my passenger at the time was one of the most highly rated Police Advanced Driving Instructors in the UK and probably the world. He is a friend, but I have also taken formal instruction from him a number of times.I associate "stacking" a car with the driver's making an unforced mistake, or possibly suffering a mechanical problem, leading to a crash. In the case of my collision, I was driving in a clear lane at maybe 70 mph when a car in a parallel lane, traveling at maybe 15 mph, suddenly and without indicating pulled in front of me. My choices were to hit the back of him at a speed differential of perhaps 40 mph or to go into the space that he had just vacated and hope that I could find enough empty road, or, that I could get my car stopped before I reached the car that had been ahead of him before he swerved. I chose the latter, and would do so again. In the event there was no available empty road, and I could not get my car fully stopped in time, although my impact speed was 15-20 mph, which meant a much lesser impact that the 40 mph alternative. I myself would not call that "stacking", but maybe my definition is wrong.
In the last 15 years I have taken a great deal of formal advanced driving training, as well as spending considerable time driving with advanced drivers, several of whom are friends of mine and who have participated in this thread. I take road driving very seriously and it interests me more than circuit driving does.
Urban Sports said:
flemke said:
Urban Sports said:
Flemke, did you take any extra driving tuition after you stacked the F1?
As it happened, my passenger at the time was one of the most highly rated Police Advanced Driving Instructors in the UK and probably the world. He is a friend, but I have also taken formal instruction from him a number of times.I associate "stacking" a car with the driver's making an unforced mistake, or possibly suffering a mechanical problem, leading to a crash. In the case of my collision, I was driving in a clear lane at maybe 70 mph when a car in a parallel lane, traveling at maybe 15 mph, suddenly and without indicating pulled in front of me. My choices were to hit the back of him at a speed differential of perhaps 40 mph or to go into the space that he had just vacated and hope that I could find enough empty road, or, that I could get my car stopped before I reached the car that had been ahead of him before he swerved. I chose the latter, and would do so again. In the event there was no available empty road, and I could not get my car fully stopped in time, although my impact speed was 15-20 mph, which meant a much lesser impact that the 40 mph alternative. I myself would not call that "stacking", but maybe my definition is wrong.
In the last 15 years I have taken a great deal of formal advanced driving training, as well as spending considerable time driving with advanced drivers, several of whom are friends of mine and who have participated in this thread. I take road driving very seriously and it interests me more than circuit driving does.
flemke said:
I was driving in a clear lane at maybe 70 mph when a car in a parallel lane, traveling at maybe 15 mph, suddenly and without indicating pulled in front of me. My choices were to hit the back of him at a speed differential of perhaps 40 mph
Lots of people over the years have tried to guess how your apparent wealth came about. It's fair to say we can rule out finance.
Superb!
TKF said:
flemke said:
I was driving in a clear lane at maybe 70 mph when a car in a parallel lane, traveling at maybe 15 mph, suddenly and without indicating pulled in front of me. My choices were to hit the back of him at a speed differential of perhaps 40 mph
Lots of people over the years have tried to guess how your apparent wealth came about. It's fair to say we can rule out finance.Someone care to explain?
Cheers.
flemke said:
TKF said:
flemke said:
I was driving in a clear lane at maybe 70 mph when a car in a parallel lane, traveling at maybe 15 mph, suddenly and without indicating pulled in front of me. My choices were to hit the back of him at a speed differential of perhaps 40 mph
Lots of people over the years have tried to guess how your apparent wealth came about. It's fair to say we can rule out finance.Someone care to explain?
Cheers.
So perhaps I should get the McLaren as a reward for such elite skills?
tontoro said:
flemke said:
You might be right, but I'm afraid I can't follow how you got there.
Someone care to explain?
Cheers.
70 minus 15 doesn't equal 40Someone care to explain?
Cheers.
I thought it was clearly implicit that, in the time between the moment when the car going 15 mph cut in front of me and any subsequent moment of potential impact, I would have been able to reduce my car's speed at least a bit. It was just that I would not have been able to slow enough to avoid a fairly high speed impact. Hence I guessed that the speed differential at impact would have been "perhaps 40".
Cheers.
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