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4key
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17 months
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Oh, and they built a huge bike track in hainault. Hardly anyone uses it, they are all still on the roads and parks. Might try and take my car around it, looks like it has some good corners.
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Paul Dishman
2,058 posts
106 months
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CRAPLOGINNAME said: Again, I'm not here to cause trouble, just find a solution so that friends of mine don't have to be collected in bin bags with monotonous regularity The solution to that would be for time trials to be held on closed roads
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4key
3,916 posts
17 months
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KB_S1 said: I just took part in a cycle race on Sunday, first time I have done so. Every set of lights was observed by all the competitors that I saw, probably over 50 different cyclists.
It must be also mentioned that over the 70 odd miles, about 50 of which was on main roads the other road users in cars etc were very considerate.
It really isn't difficult. I can sit for an hour in most major citys and witness more than 50 cyclists break numerous road laws, London is rife with the mentalists.
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dtrump
1,276 posts
60 months
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jamei303 said: dtrump said: Not so long ago I was driving in a que of traffic near chatworths house and I assumed that there was a slow lorry or tractor ahead. But no. 2 cyclists riding 2 abreast taking up the whole lane. When I was at the head of the que I tooted the horn as I went past and the one on the outside yelled and kicked out towards the car  I know most are not like this but I do find cyclists very annoying a lot of the time Do you hoot the horn at tractors who aren't driving in the adjacent field instead of on the road? Or maybe you only hoot if they're more vulnerable than you? You probably make rude gestures at women drivers when they annoy you but not strong-looking men? Oh you don't understand...... ok I'll try again there was a que a big one waited several minutes in the big que turned out to be 2 cyclists needlessly riding 2 abreast I tooted my horn suggesting that they might want to ride inline or at least attempt to move over a tad cyclist nearest me went berserk yelled furiously and kicked out towards my car You know if they had just been cycling in line there would be no issue here 2 abreast cycling with an obvious que of 20+ vehicles behind.....d**kface springs to mind
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CRAPLOGINNAME
Original Poster
362 posts
123 months
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Paul Dishman said: The solution to that would be for time trials to be held on closed roads I'm definitely with you on that one. I raced them for many years, you get addicted, but now I'm out of it I can see the insanity.
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KB_S1
5,938 posts
98 months
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4key said: I can sit for an hour in most major citys and witness more than 50 cyclists break numerous road laws, London is rife with the mentalists. Quite possibly. Is that the majority of cyclists? Do other cyclists deserve to be treated with hate because of them? How many car/taxi/van/lorry drivers do you see every day that break road laws? Which of those are most likely to cause accidents? I do not approve of cyclists doing stupid/illegal things but, as an enthusiastic car driver I am far more concerned by other car drivers.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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aizvara said: How does that assumption explain your point? Think it through it might catch on! Remove cyclists from city centres, they then take the bus instead of buying cars because they never got the hang of driving which is why they took up cycle commuting in the fist place. Taking the bus means fewer co2's than a car (if you believe all that crap). Buses have more room and therefore (ex) cyclist gets to work quicker and sweet smelling ; might even get a girl friend/ boyfriend. No traffic jams so cars just zip through. See, WIN WIN !! 
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KB_S1
5,938 posts
98 months
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dtrump said: You know if they had just been cycling in line there would be no issue here
2 abreast cycling with an obvious que of 20+ vehicles behind.....d**kface springs to mind How exactly does 2 abreast make passing more difficult? Shorter obstacle to pass than 2 in line so actually an easier pass.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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KB_S1 said: How exactly does 2 abreast make passing more difficult?
Shorter obstacle to pass than 2 in line so actually an easier pass. I have to admit I find 2 breasts annoying. You can't usually give the the outside rider enough room as stated in the highway code and spouted out ad infinitum by cyclists themselves. This should be obvious. sorry did I say 2 breasts?
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dtrump
1,276 posts
60 months
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KB_S1 said: How exactly does 2 abreast make passing more difficult?
Shorter obstacle to pass than 2 in line so actually an easier pass. single carriageway 2 cyclists blocking the entire lane heavy traffic coming the other direction work it out not a big deal really just very unnecessary and selfish thats all
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KB_S1
5,938 posts
98 months
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IF you couldn't pass them two abreast because of traffic coming the other way then was there really room to pass them if they were single file?
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4key
3,916 posts
17 months
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KB_S1 said: Quite possibly. Is that the majority of cyclists? Do other cyclists deserve to be treated with hate because of them?
How many car/taxi/van/lorry drivers do you see every day that break road laws?
Which of those are most likely to cause accidents? Percentage wise yes, most cyclists consistantly break every traffic rule they can at every oppotunity, because they are not accountable. Percentage wise, per user, i would say more cyclists on the road cause more accidents than cars. Its the same as with motorcyclists, theres less of them but they make up a higher percentage of casulty for their numbers. If you are cycling to commute, fair enough. If you are doing it for exercise or sport or whatever.. f  k off and do it somewhere other that the road, as it is these ones that cause the most hassle riding in their self rightous groups. 
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KB_S1
5,938 posts
98 months
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Delightful attitude there.
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aclivity
3,540 posts
57 months
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dtrump said: Oh you don't understand...... ok I'll try again
there was a que
a big one
waited several minutes in the big que
turned out to be 2 cyclists
needlessly riding 2 abreast
I tooted my horn
suggesting that they might want to ride inline
or at least attempt to move over a tad
cyclist nearest me went berserk
yelled furiously
and kicked out towards my car
You know if they had just been cycling in line there would be no issue here
2 abreast cycling with an obvious que of 20+ vehicles behind.....d**kface springs to mind no, there wasn't. There may have been a queue, but not a que. Unless you had a waiter from Barcelona up front? Secondly - if YOU can drive properly, legally and follow the rules of the road (specifically, highway code rule 163) then you would give as much room to one cyclist as you would to a car. So there is room for 2 bikes to ride next to each other. But if you can't follow the rules of the road (as above, and also as mentioned in an earlier post, absolute adherence to the speed limits) then you are in no moral position to criticise riders.
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aizvara
1,496 posts
36 months
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DuckDuck said: Think it through it might catch on! Remove cyclists from city centres, they then take the bus instead of buying cars because they never got the hang of driving which is why they took up cycle commuting in the fist place. Taking the bus means fewer co2's than a car (if you believe all that crap). Buses have more room and therefore (ex) cyclist gets to work quicker and sweet smelling ; might even get a girl friend/ boyfriend. No traffic jams so cars just zip through. See, WIN WIN !! OK I suppose, but I was hoping for some piercing insight or witty observations as part of the trolling.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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aclivity said: Secondly - if YOU can drive properly, legally and follow the rules of the road (specifically, highway code rule 163) then you would give as much room to one cyclist as you would to a car. So there is room for 2 bikes to ride next to each other. This is not the case in the vast majority of roads near where I live and some cyclists will still insist on cycling 2 abreast when it is obvious the driver cannot give the appropriate space.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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aizvara said: OK I suppose, but I was hoping for some piercing insight or witty observations as part of the trolling. "OK I suppose" how dare you! I thought I was being wickedly witty and showed remarkable insight. You can't make stunning observations these days without someone calling you a troll. So where is your offering?
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aclivity
3,540 posts
57 months
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DuckDuck said: aclivity said: Secondly - if YOU can drive properly, legally and follow the rules of the road (specifically, highway code rule 163) then you would give as much room to one cyclist as you would to a car. So there is room for 2 bikes to ride next to each other. This is not the case in the vast majority of roads near where I live and some cyclists will still insist on cycling 2 abreast when it is obvious the driver cannot give the appropriate space. Don't you understand? If there is not room to get past two cyclists, then there is not room to get past one, unless you break rule 163.
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DuckDuck
263 posts
17 months
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aclivity said: Don't you understand? If there is not room to get past two cyclists, then there is not room to get past one, unless you break rule 163. That's not true! do I really have to draw it it for you?
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KB_S1
5,938 posts
98 months
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DuckDuck said: That's not true! do I really have to draw it it for you? So you are going for cyclist/Your car/another car in opposite direction?
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