RE: Saab Black Turbo X

[TUS 373]

I had a 9-3 Aero Sports Saloon also. WORST car I have EVER owned. 12 days in the dealer's hands in 6 months (5 different ones) trying to get varies problems fixed - and some of them never were fixed. More rattles than Mothercare's warehouse. It was the pits. Looked good. But the pits.

This one looks good on paper, an should probably stay on paper. There are better cars to be had out there - and better dealers that may actualy care a toss about the product. Sorry "Saab", but you no longer maker proper Saabs/cars like you used to.

[Crimp a Length]

TUS 373 said:

I had a 9-3 Aero Sports Saloon also. WORST car I have EVER owned. 12 days in the dealer's hands in 6 months (5 different ones) trying to get varies problems fixed - and some of them never were fixed. More rattles than Mothercare's warehouse. It was the pits. Looked good. But the pits.

This one looks good on paper, an should probably stay on paper. There are better cars to be had out there - and better dealers that may actualy care a toss about the product. Sorry "Saab", but you no longer maker proper Saabs/cars like you used to.

Tend to agree the original 900's were the dogs, they are now just up market Vauxhalls

[Apache]

chrisbr68 said:

Is this the first AWD one?

I think so....well overdue IMO too, much as I love Saabs (I've had 3) the FWD is a real joke for high output cars. I did try a 9000fpt with lsd and that was so much better I always wondered why they didn't do it as standard

[flattotheboards]

the supplying dealer can add a personalised message to the dashboard.
o my god how sad is that.

[scottiedog]

TUS 373 said:

I had a 9-3 Aero Sports Saloon also. WORST car I have EVER owned. 12 days in the dealer's hands in 6 months (5 different ones) trying to get varies problems fixed - and some of them never were fixed. More rattles than Mothercare's warehouse. It was the pits. Looked good. But the pits.

This one looks good on paper, an should probably stay on paper. There are better cars to be had out there - and better dealers that may actualy care a toss about the product. Sorry "Saab", but you no longer maker proper Saabs/cars like you used to.

Agree 100%, whatever happened to Saab? The 90's seem like a bit of a blur for them and since then they have never really recovered. Still, the AWD thingy sounds pretty imperssive, would be nice to see that on more of there cars.

[tomTVR]

I like it and if thats the same engine as the VXR then 340bhp should be possible from the tuners

[Rocky Balboa]

hairy said:

Fetchez la vache said:

t0ny99 said:

PH said:

It's a limited edition, although no information has been released about the size of the production run

2000 cars, apparently.

How many 95's did Saab sell last year? 26?

as many as that!!!!!!!!!!
since the new one was launched iv sold 2!!!!

[i want an aero]

tomTVR said:

I like it and if thats the same engine as the VXR then 340bhp should be possible from the tuners

saab have always had there own engines and suspensions, that's what's different from vauxhaul. you can get 300-350bhp from a saab 9-5 engine quite easily. above that it costs serious money and alot swapped out parts.

[havoc]

i want an aero said:

tomTVR said:

I like it and if thats the same engine as the VXR then 340bhp should be possible from the tuners

saab have always had there own engines and suspensions, that's what's different from vauxhaul. you can get 300-350bhp from a saab 9-5 engine quite easily. above that it costs serious money and alot swapped out parts.

I'm pretty sure this 2.8 is a Saab/GM shared engine. Not sure where it originated...

[WhoreLex]

Nice nice, shame about the awd, yes its probably going to be a better drive

but as fun? i'm unsure...

[coleo]

It still looks like a cha'r'ved up version of the previous style 9-3 - failing to see how its new in anyway apart from a few mechanicals. Then again the current 9-5 is hardly a step up from the last with both model years being very much identical.

[philbes]

"Inside, the design is a replica of the original 900 Turbo"

I didn't know that the 900 had sat-nav!

[LayZ]

Its a shame what's happened to Saab. None of these post GM cars will be regarded as classics ever.

[GF350]

philbes said:

"Inside, the design is a replica of the original 900 Turbo"

I didn't know that the 900 had sat-nav!

The only bit that looks even vaguely familiar to me are the 3 big switches in the center of the dash. They arn't the same by any means.
If it wasn't for that I'd doubt the person who designed this 'replica' had ever seen a 900T interior.

[900T-R]

GF350 said:

The only bit that looks even vaguely familiar to me are the 3 big switches in the center of the dash.

And even those are in the wrong place - they were in the main dash rather than in the center console (which was nowt more than a storage bin with a DIN-sized holder for accessory gauges or audio gear if you were so inclined, in the old 900).

[ganser]

900T-R said:

chrisbr68 said:

Is this the first AWD one?

Apart from the Saabaru (9-2X) and the Chevy Trollblazer aka 9-7X... Could say that this is the first one of their own, though...

Trollblazer?!

[Fetchez la vache]

t0ny99 said:

Fetchez la vache said:

How many 95's did Saab sell last year? 26?

You know that's a 93, right?

Edited by t0ny99 on Tuesday 11th September 12:10

err.. no

[keith2007]

hairy said:

gwatson said:

If only they were doing an estate version.........

the will be doing both and estate and conv as they massivly outsell saloon

Personally I'd go for a saloon they're tasty

[NiceCupOfTea]

900T-R said:

GF350 said:

The only bit that looks even vaguely familiar to me are the 3 big switches in the center of the dash.

And even those are in the wrong place - they were in the main dash rather than in the center console (which was nowt more than a storage bin with a DIN-sized holder for accessory gauges or audio gear if you were so inclined, in the old 900).

Mind you, the 900 interior was very dated in the late 80s so I can't see modern buyers being impressed with a 30 year old interior design! (good as it might be )

[NJH]

I read the other day that the 4wd handling is sooo good that this car goes through a slalom course quicker then the 997tt!


If this is even remotely true then why have Saab said next to nothing about the cars capabilities?

I really don't understand the company any more, they sent me a flyer a few months ago that had the word "sporty" on it about 20 times per page next to some pics of a diesel 9-3 rep wagon but didn't give me a single reason why I would buy the thing over any other car.