Just something to see if it works. Mod on Duty!

[Rocksteadyeddie]

Blown2CV said:

Helicopter123 said:

wsurfa said:

hornetrider said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Merc main dealer prices are always going to rape you.

I'd imagine half that at an indy.

A quick google found the OEM plugs (NGK platinums) at c £160 on ebay - so I'd guess c£300-£400 at an indy for the plug change?

Change of plugs could surely be done at home?

If it's £500 just for that job I'd be certain that it's complex. It's that cost for a reason not just to take the piss.

You say that but an Abarth dealer quoted me £200 to replace the "lifetime" plugs on my 500. They could at least have the decency to wear a fking mask!

[ATM]

Easternlight said:

Here's a how to. Look at the coil pack! "Try not to distort it as you could render it useless"

I can't really make it out?

[Blown2CV]

Patrick Bateman said:

£100+ an hour might have something to do with it though.

That still equates to 5 hours labour for a trained tech. Just go to a specialist and suck it up. No one is going to want a complex barge that the owner has been hitting with a hammer themselves to save a few quid. Barging is occasional big cost! The trick is to avoid the costly times, not skimp on them when you get caught.

[hornetrider]

It's not 500 labour if it's a 500 quid job. 24 platinum plugs will probably set you back 200. Then it's two hours plus vat labour. Sounds about right.

/fagpacket

[anonymous-user]

Blown2CV said:

Helicopter123 said:

wsurfa said:

hornetrider said:

Patrick Bateman said:

Merc main dealer prices are always going to rape you.

I'd imagine half that at an indy.

A quick google found the OEM plugs (NGK platinums) at c £160 on ebay - so I'd guess c£300-£400 at an indy for the plug change?

Change of plugs could surely be done at home?

If it's £500 just for that job I'd be certain that it's complex. It's that cost for a reason not just to take the piss.

I might be getting too tempted... been looking through some MB forums and saw a write up for DIY replacement. Took 2 hours (another took 5 hours with some hard to remove plugs), so wouldn't be surprised if MB was charging 2-2.5hrs hours labour and £10/plug = c£500

[Patrick Bateman]

Blown2CV said:

That still equates to 5 hours labour for a trained tech. Just go to a specialist and suck it up. No one is going to want a complex barge that the owner has been hitting with a hammer themselves to save a few quid. Barging is occasional big cost! The trick is to avoid the costly times, not skimp on them when you get caught.

You don't have to tell me about big costs.

I was not talking about doing it yourself, just that going by dealer prices alone is always going to make things worse than they need to be.

[Mephistofleas]

Speaking of big costs these are getting closer and closer to thread budget. Aside from the guy on PH who got first refusal on one for £22k on one in 2012 I haven't seen one this cheap until now...



£22,995

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

[jas xjr]

Is it just me or are these really ugly? Technically interesting but it is to my eye topping.

[BIRMA]

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

[RobinBanks]

jas xjr said:

Is it just me or are these really ugly? Technically interesting but it is to my eye topping.

I agree. They're just a bit bloated and fat to my eyes.

[Blown2CV]

BIRMA said:

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

yea that's the first thing i think of when i think of bentleys, they're st because there's no diesel option... jesus christ.

[BIRMA]

Blown2CV said:

BIRMA said:

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

yea that's the first thing i think of when i think of bentleys, they're st because there's no diesel option... jesus christ.

Indeed, having 750 Nm of torque at just over tick over as standard which is easily re-mapped to nearly 900Nm and 30 MPG would make it st wouldn't it.

[Fox-]

BIRMA said:

Indeed, having 750 Nm of torque at just over tick over as standard which is easily re-mapped to nearly 900Nm and 30 MPG would make it st wouldn't it.

This is why diesel sucks, you need to explain how much torque it has to try and make it sound appealing.

[Blown2CV]

BIRMA said:

Blown2CV said:

BIRMA said:

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

yea that's the first thing i think of when i think of bentleys, they're st because there's no diesel option... jesus christ.

Indeed, having 750 Nm of torque at just over tick over as standard which is easily re-mapped to nearly 900Nm and 30 MPG would make it st wouldn't it.

You might love your car, but not only is tyre-shredding torque and OK-ish fuel consumption not the solution to every problem, but at the very least you have to admit it would hardly be adhering to Bentley brand values. I am sure as diesels go it's quite refined, but any smoke is too much smoke, and anything less than silky smooth is too rough for a Bentley. They're meant to be an engineering pinnacle. I'm no Bentley fan boy, but it just seems a bit silly to me.

[SpeckledJim]

BIRMA said:

Blown2CV said:

BIRMA said:

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

yea that's the first thing i think of when i think of bentleys, they're st because there's no diesel option... jesus christ.

Indeed, having 750 Nm of torque at just over tick over as standard which is easily re-mapped to nearly 900Nm and 30 MPG would make it st wouldn't it.

Well, it would be quite a lot slower than a normal one.

[BIRMA]

Blown2CV said:

BIRMA said:

Blown2CV said:

BIRMA said:

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

yea that's the first thing i think of when i think of bentleys, they're st because there's no diesel option... jesus christ.

Indeed, having 750 Nm of torque at just over tick over as standard which is easily re-mapped to nearly 900Nm and 30 MPG would make it st wouldn't it.

You might love your car, but not only is tyre-shredding torque and OK-ish fuel consumption not the solution to every problem, but at the very least you have to admit it would hardly be adhering to Bentley brand values. I am sure as diesels go it's quite refined, but any smoke is too much smoke, and anything less than silky smooth is too rough for a Bentley. They're meant to be an engineering pinnacle. I'm no Bentley fan boy, but it just seems a bit silly to me.

I can assure you the only sound you hear when you put your foot down is a deep rumble which sounds very nice, most of the time the car/engine is virtually silent. Lets face it in the past Bentleys have always had big loud engines. Not any noticeable smoke either. Either way I wouldn't say no to a Bentley with this engine myself.

Bentley will add a diesel engine to its line-up in the future. VW Group boss Martin Winterkorn confirmed the engine won't be a V10, meaning it will be either a V8 or V12. Speaking to Autocar, he said: “Diesel for Bentley is decided. It won’t be a V10. But the V10 is not dead within the VW Group; there will be a successor.”

Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 4th January 19:52

Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 4th January 20:00

[CDP]

Blown2CV said:

You might love your car, but not only is tyre-shredding torque and OK-ish fuel consumption not the solution to every problem, but at the very least you have to admit it would hardly be adhering to Bentley brand values. I am sure as diesels go it's quite refined, but any smoke is too much smoke, and anything less than silky smooth is too rough for a Bentley. They're meant to be an engineering pinnacle. I'm no Bentley fan boy, but it just seems a bit silly to me.

Ettore Bugatti described them as the Fastest Lorries in the World so maybe a diesel would be quite suitable. Along with a fifth wheel trailer.

[Mephistofleas]

BIRMA said:

Bentley will add a diesel engine to its line-up in the future. VW Group boss Martin Winterkorn confirmed the engine won't be a V10, meaning it will be either a V8 or V12. Speaking to Autocar, he said: “Diesel for Bentley is decided. It won’t be a V10. But the V10 is not dead within the VW Group; there will be a successor.”

As long as it's not a 4 pot with eleventy turbos

[hadenough!]

wsurfa said:

I might be getting too tempted... been looking through some MB forums and saw a write up for DIY replacement. Took 2 hours (another took 5 hours with some hard to remove plugs), so wouldn't be surprised if MB was charging 2-2.5hrs hours labour and £10/plug = c£500

Not gonna flog the bm are you?

[slippery]

BIRMA said:

They share the same running gear as my Phaeton and a few instruments too. Not sure I like the looks either and the fact there isn't a V10 oil burner option.

People always neglect to mention the small matter of two turbos when claiming their Phaetons have Bentley running gear.