Just something to see if it works. Mod on Duty!

[BIRMA]

ATM said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

ATM said:

This top bks 760 v12 has been for sale for quite a while


http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=2...

Lordy thats a lot of metal for the dough. How reliable are these V12's?

They have 445bhp and they used this engine in a rolls royce. What else do you need to know?

I think on the whole the big VAG engines are pretty good and I know some of the early issues with some engines were addressed with replacement parts fairly early on in their life. I read on one of the owners forums that this type of engine is only just run-in at 80K miles and in automatic form is hardly ever overstressed.
The big but is of course when anything does go wrong, repair work can be expensive even with a good independent.
Lets face it people buying these big high powered Luxo-Barges do so knowing that one you make the right choice in the first place because the chances are you'll have a job selling it.
Two you have done a microscopic analysis of ownership from the very helpful owner forums and you have made a carefully considered choice.
Three you try to have a decent fund put aside just in case, which again most people would have because in relative terms these cars are very cheap to buy.
Four you just enjoy having a fairly exclusive super luxury fast car at about a tenth of the original cost and if you are lucky got one with a £280 road tax rate, oh and fairly cheap insurance.

[ATM]

hornetrider said:

ATM said:

Marty Funkhouser said:

ATM said:

This top bks 760 v12 has been for sale for quite a while


http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=2...

Lordy thats a lot of metal for the dough. How reliable are these V12's?

They have 445bhp and they used this engine in a rolls royce. What else do you need to know?

I need to know if it's been serviced. Information in the somewhat comprehensive ad which is sadly lacking. Ergo...

I think this is a rare swb too.

[hornetrider]

BIRMA said:

I think on the whole the big VAG engines are pretty good and I know some of the early issues with some engines were addressed with replacement parts fairly early on in their life. I read on one of the owners forums that this type of engine is only just run-in at 80K miles and in automatic form is hardly ever overstressed.
The big but is of course when anything does go wrong, repair work can be expensive even with a good independent.
Lets face it people buying these big high powered Luxo-Barges do so knowing that one you make the right choice in the first place because the chances are you'll have a job selling it.
Two you have done a microscopic analysis of ownership from the very helpful owner forums and you have made a carefully considered choice.
Three you try to have a decent fund put aside just in case, which again most people would have because in relative terms these cars are very cheap to buy.
Four you just enjoy having a fairly exclusive super luxury fast car at about a tenth of the original cost and if you are lucky got one with a £280 road tax rate, oh and fairly cheap insurance.

It's not VAG.

[BIRMA]

hornetrider said:

BIRMA said:

I think on the whole the big VAG engines are pretty good and I know some of the early issues with some engines were addressed with replacement parts fairly early on in their life. I read on one of the owners forums that this type of engine is only just run-in at 80K miles and in automatic form is hardly ever overstressed.
The big but is of course when anything does go wrong, repair work can be expensive even with a good independent.
Lets face it people buying these big high powered Luxo-Barges do so knowing that one you make the right choice in the first place because the chances are you'll have a job selling it.
Two you have done a microscopic analysis of ownership from the very helpful owner forums and you have made a carefully considered choice.
Three you try to have a decent fund put aside just in case, which again most people would have because in relative terms these cars are very cheap to buy.
Four you just enjoy having a fairly exclusive super luxury fast car at about a tenth of the original cost and if you are lucky got one with a £280 road tax rate, oh and fairly cheap insurance.

It's not VAG.

Yes I have just realised that, my mistake I thought it was the Audi.

[slippery]

Blown2CV said:

it wasn't intended to be a petrol vs diesel debate, all i meant was that a diesel is wrong for a Bentley, no matter how good that V10 is.

I agree, but I bet it still happens one day.

[BIRMA]

slippery said:

Blown2CV said:

it wasn't intended to be a petrol vs diesel debate, all i meant was that a diesel is wrong for a Bentley, no matter how good that V10 is.

I agree, but I bet it still happens one day.

Yes it looks to be a done deal according to the guy quoted in Autocar

[anonymous-user]

Talking of v12 "power barges", does anyone have any info or experience to share on s600s

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Ive dine my research in ABC and coil packs and decided that they aren't that much of an issue. I do all my own spannering so the bork potential is relieved a little bit. I'm thinking a remap on one of these and ive got more performance than nearly anything on the road for less than 10k.

Just trying to justify the higher prices for a 600. Pre face lift cars are buttons and even face lift s55s can be had for a few grand less with similar amounts of performance. I know I shouldn't be picking hairs over a former 120k car, but spending nearly ten grand on a ruinous merc seems like a bigger prospect than spending 5-6k.

Of course I could wait for a bargain like the one up for 5.5k before Xmas, but in the back of my head I'm thinking that I should buy the beat possible example, preferably in this awesome purpule they did.

Thoughts?

[BIRMA]

279 said:

Talking of v12 "power barges", does anyone have any info or experience to share on s600s

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Ive dine my research in ABC and coil packs and decided that they aren't that much of an issue. I do all my own spannering so the bork potential is relieved a little bit. I'm thinking a remap on one of these and ive got more performance than nearly anything on the road for less than 10k.

Just trying to justify the higher prices for a 600. Pre face lift cars are buttons and even face lift s55s can be had for a few grand less with similar amounts of performance. I know I shouldn't be picking hairs over a former 120k car, but spending nearly ten grand on a ruinous merc seems like a bigger prospect than spending 5-6k.

Of course I could wait for a bargain like the one up for 5.5k before Xmas, but in the back of my head I'm thinking that I should buy the beat possible example, preferably in this awesome purpule they did.

Thoughts?

Looks to be carefully looked after and in nice condition I know when I was looking for a CLS 55 AMG every one had eaten its discs so again it looks like a careful owner, it is the pre-facelift I think. It was one of these that a customer of mine had and during a long drive one hot summer day I discovered cooled seats and have been forever converted.
I always put the reg through we buy any car to get an idea where to start price negotiations.

Edited by BIRMA on Tuesday 6th January 17:05

[ATM]

BIRMA said:

279 said:

Talking of v12 "power barges", does anyone have any info or experience to share on s600s

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Ive dine my research in ABC and coil packs and decided that they aren't that much of an issue. I do all my own spannering so the bork potential is relieved a little bit. I'm thinking a remap on one of these and ive got more performance than nearly anything on the road for less than 10k.

Just trying to justify the higher prices for a 600. Pre face lift cars are buttons and even face lift s55s can be had for a few grand less with similar amounts of performance. I know I shouldn't be picking hairs over a former 120k car, but spending nearly ten grand on a ruinous merc seems like a bigger prospect than spending 5-6k.

Of course I could wait for a bargain like the one up for 5.5k before Xmas, but in the back of my head I'm thinking that I should buy the beat possible example, preferably in this awesome purpule they did.

Thoughts?

Looks to be carefully looked after and in nice condition I know when I was looking for a CLS 55 AMG every one had eaten its discs so again it looks like a careful owner, it is the pre-facelift I think. It was one of these that a customer of mine had and during a long drive one hot summer day I discovered cooled seats and have been forever converted.
I always put the reg through we buy any car to get an idea where to start price negotiations.

Edited by BIRMA on Tuesday 6th January 17:05

Almandine is a nice color too.

Edited by ATM on Tuesday 6th January 18:35

[86DA]

Coil pack problems were the earlier pre facelift 600, isn't the twin turbo a different engine? could be wrong.

No keyless entry, no distronic.

Edited by 86DA on Tuesday 6th January 17:33

[anonymous-user]

86DA said:

Coil pack problems were the earlier pre facelift 600, isn't the twin turbo a different engine? could be wrong.

No keyless entry, no distronic.

Edited by 86DA on Tuesday 6th January 17:33

Yeah, different engine, but they're still at least £700-£800 a side and are known to fail after 60,000 miles or so which I think is a similar story on the pre facelift cars. Its the oil cooler within the V and obstructed by the by the cylinder heads that is supposed to be the real killer on the non turbos. I can deal with coil packs, I can deal with hydraulic lines rotting, suspension pumps failing, and weird electrical faults but heads off a V12 Merc aint happening

Good spot on the Keyless and Distronic. Not so bothered about the later, but the former (and therefore the awesome start button on top of the friggin gear selector!) is fairly important.

This is partly the problem. If I'm spending that sort of money I'm expecting perfect in my head, right colour, right spec, lower miles, etc. For £5k-£6k I can compromise because nothing will get close to the performance for the money, at closer to 10k its got much tougher competition, most of all my reluctance to spend that much money on a car (95% of my previous motors have cost less than a grand).

But then I remind myself that these cars were worth more than my parents house back in 03-04...

[Rocksteadyeddie]

279 said:

86DA said:

Coil pack problems were the earlier pre facelift 600, isn't the twin turbo a different engine? could be wrong.

No keyless entry, no distronic.

Edited by 86DA on Tuesday 6th January 17:33

Yeah, different engine, but they're still at least £700-£800 a side and are known to fail after 60,000 miles or so which I think is a similar story on the pre facelift cars. Its the oil cooler within the V and obstructed by the by the cylinder heads that is supposed to be the real killer on the non turbos. I can deal with coil packs, I can deal with hydraulic lines rotting, suspension pumps failing, and weird electrical faults but heads off a V12 Merc aint happening

Good spot on the Keyless and Distronic. Not so bothered about the later, but the former (and therefore the awesome start button on top of the friggin gear selector!) is fairly important.

This is partly the problem. If I'm spending that sort of money I'm expecting perfect in my head, right colour, right spec, lower miles, etc. For £5k-£6k I can compromise because nothing will get close to the performance for the money, at closer to 10k its got much tougher competition, most of all my reluctance to spend that much money on a car (95% of my previous motors have cost less than a grand).

But then I remind myself that these cars were worth more than my parents house back in 03-04...

Keyless is great, and I use Distronic all the time on mine (SL600). Works much better than the similar system in the much later FFRR and is a bit of a licence saver on the motorway especially with all the cameras seemingly everywhere nowadays.

[Atmospheric]

Nice S8 within thread budget



http://www.johnwebbandson.co.uk/used-cars/audi-s8-...

[loafer123]

Lovely.

[Atmospheric]

Looks like Big Motoring World have one of the very few F10 550i's for sale. Looks average spec, and SE trim so looks pretty sober. It should also ride properly.

If my memory is correct this has 400bhp/440lb-ft. So no slouch.

http://www.bigmotoringworld.co.uk/used-cars/bmw-5-...

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Atmospheric said:

Looks like Big Motoring World ...

I think the general well-informed view is that you wouldn't trust that vendor with someone else's.

[Atmospheric]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Atmospheric said:

Looks like Big Motoring World ...

I think the general well-informed view is that you wouldn't trust that vendor with someone else's.

Its almost a shame they have it.

[ATM]

This looks nice for £10,975. Are these any good?

2008
New Gearbox - as in the newer type
130000 miles

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

[W00DY]

ATM said:

This looks nice for £10,975. Are these any good?

2008
New Gearbox - as in the newer type
130000 miles

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Looks pretty good at 10 large. That steering wheel looks seriously fat though!





http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...

Lovely spec, so restrained and it looks mint.




http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Bet that quilted leather doesn't come cheap.




http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

It's got the little blue hybrid badge so everyone knows you're doing your bit.

[confused_buyer]

BigMotoringWorld off load all their px's via Manheim. Judging by the terrible standard of the cars - their customers use and abuse their cars in everyway imaginable so if they purchase another abused one as their new car no doubt it fits in perfectly.