RE: My First Car

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CNHSS1

942 posts

217 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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yeah ally block. think the main component it shared with the ordinary essex was the name...

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th June 2008
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CNHSS1 said:
yeah ally block. think the main component it shared with the ordinary essex was the name...
That would be it then - so absolutely Nothing;)

peter pan

1,253 posts

224 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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I had three of them (two manual, one auto), so I guess it could be said I quite liked them.
The last, had what they described as long range tank which would take about 35 gallons! but hung out behind the rear axle, as it was, seriously affected the handling on the few occassions I could afford to fill it (think pendulum, very very heavy pendulum)I remember I kept on looking under the car to see if the fuel was falling out somewhere when I was filling it. But given that it had Laycock de Normanville overdrive on third and top, I could go for a substantial distance.
I dread to think about filling something like that up these days, a tankfull would be circa £180-00!

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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35 gallons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That Daddy

18,957 posts

221 months

Friday 6th June 2008
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GingerNinja said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Isn't there somebody here who has a fantastic TVR engined one? cloud9
Well sort of - mine has a V8 Development's 4.6litre cross-bolted Rover V8 with a T5 gearbox, plus assorted brake & suspension upgrades.....
Now thats a Scimitarwinkthumbup

dinkel

26,934 posts

258 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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A Scimitar needs a V6 Ford, end of.

That Daddy

18,957 posts

221 months

Saturday 7th June 2008
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dinkel said:
A Scimitar needs a V6 Ford, end of.
Really rolleyes it certainly dont need the torqueless wheezy cologne unit laugh

jellison

12,803 posts

277 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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dinkel said:
A Scimitar needs a V6 Ford, end of.
Dink - I work with Ginga an the TVR Power Scim er IS the way to go, lighter engine with alot more power and torque and THAT Noise!!!!!!!!!!!!

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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That Daddy said:
dinkel said:
A Scimitar needs a V6 Ford, end of.
Really rolleyes it certainly dont need the torqueless wheezy cologne unit laugh
The torqueless wheezy cologne unit that in its last incarnation produced 216 bhp and 269 lbft of torque? That will fit the engine bay without cutting the firewall to bits and its not necessary to mess around with the steering geometry and suspension setup?

That Daddy

18,957 posts

221 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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plasticpig said:
That Daddy said:
dinkel said:
A Scimitar needs a V6 Ford, end of.
Really rolleyes it certainly dont need the torqueless wheezy cologne unit laugh
The torqueless wheezy cologne unit that in its last incarnation produced 216 bhp and 269 lbft of torque? That will fit the engine bay without cutting the firewall to bits and its not necessary to mess around with the steering geometry and suspension setup?
Yes but thats the Cosworth developed unit and only shares the lower half of the Cologne unit,it was not a factory Scimitar fitted unit and that was my point,i do have a soft spot for the Essex unit it had good low down torque(unlike the 2.8 cologne) laugh

Edited by That Daddy on Sunday 8th June 23:00

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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That Daddy said:
plasticpig said:
That Daddy said:
dinkel said:
A Scimitar needs a V6 Ford, end of.
Really rolleyes it certainly dont need the torqueless wheezy cologne unit laugh
The torqueless wheezy cologne unit that in its last incarnation produced 216 bhp and 269 lbft of torque? That will fit the engine bay without cutting the firewall to bits and its not necessary to mess around with the steering geometry and suspension setup?
Yes but thats the Cosworth developed unit and only shares the lower half of the Cologne unit,it was not a factory Scimitar fitted unit and that was my point,i do have a soft spot for the Essex unit it had good low down torque(unlike the 2.8 cologne) laugh

Edited by That Daddy on Sunday 8th June 23:00
I was reffering the SOHC version as used in the Explorer. Having owned both Essex and Cologne engined Scimitars in practice there is very little noticeable diffrence between the two. Especially with an auto box.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

238 months

Sunday 8th June 2008
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Yep...Granada 3 litre 192ft/lbs. 2.8i Capri 162ft/lbs.




Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

239 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Lovely car cloud9
I can imagine a nice bored and stroked out cologne (these can be stroked out to monstrous capacities- using parts from the later US cologne engine) with Cosworth 24 valve cylinder heads! Hmmmmm

peter pan

1,253 posts

224 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Jellison.... Yup 35 gallons!???? I think the tank must have been pinched from from a Hercules transport aircraft, and I only ever filled it up, when going on holiday because it meant I could often do the also the only car I ever had where one could visibly see the fuel gauge, moving backwards when the right pedal was floored..... nowadays that would just be too scary!!!

Klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

255 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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I really love these cars and there are some nice examples for reasonable prices on fleabay. But reading the horrific stories about fuel consumption puts me off a bit...
Would a conversion to LPG be an option?

plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Klassiekerrally said:
I really love these cars and there are some nice examples for reasonable prices on fleabay. But reading the horrific stories about fuel consumption puts me off a bit...
Would a conversion to LPG be an option?
They are not that bad on fuel. I average around 24 mpg. The problem with LPG conversion is it would take up most of the boot space as there is no spare wheel well to put a tank. The alternative is to put a tank under the car. This would involve having a smaller petrol tank fabricated and putting the LPG tank along side it. Plenty of room as the SE5 has a 17 gallon tank and SE6 has a 20 gallon tank.

grahamw48

9,944 posts

238 months

Monday 9th June 2008
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Fuel consumption ?...haha...don't get a V8 Wedge then.hehe

- Owned loads of vehicles with the Ford V6, and rarely got less than 22mpg even with auto.
I'd expect around 25mpg, and that isn't too desperate.

In April's PP Car mag, article about someone who'd fitted an Omega 2.5 (same as BMW) diesel in his Scimitar. Seemed to work well, and economical too. smile

That Daddy

18,957 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th June 2008
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The Cologne engine is a lot more frugal than the Essex especially on a runwinkthe Essex is one greedy bugger eek

Klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

255 months

Tuesday 10th June 2008
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grahamw48 said:
Fuel consumption ?...haha...don't get a V8 Wedge then.hehe
OK, I promise I won't!wink
Can't say the same about Dink though... One day he might just give in to the temptation of the burbling triangle smile

GingerNinja

3,961 posts

258 months

Wednesday 11th June 2008
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Klassiekerrally said:
grahamw48 said:
Fuel consumption ?...haha...don't get a V8 Wedge then.hehe
OK, I promise I won't!wink
Can't say the same about Dink though... One day he might just give in to the temptation of the burbling triangle smile
...and would presumably try to "improve" it by replacing the V8 for a noncy V6.