RE: PH Heroes: Porsche 968 Club Sport

[Kawasicki]

The 968 CS is a lovely car. I test drove one before settling on a 944 Turbo SE. The Turbo doesn't have the journalists backing, but it's a lot quicker and I found it to be simply more fun, the LSD really made it interesting.

[Tankman]

cuneus said:

Tankman said:

As a regular poster on this forum Cuneus, I will presume you are well experienced in track driving. So, can I ask what cars you have driven to make a comparison against the CS?

www.pistonheads.com/members/showcar.asp?carId=14886

www.944turbo.org.uk

Sorry, I forgot to ask you which tracks you have driven the 968 and your old 944 Turbo which is as you say a fabulous car. I was interested to see your dream garage has the ultra rare 968 Turbo . . . .

[cuneus]

Tankman said:

Sorry, I forgot to ask you which tracks you have driven the 968 and your old 944 Turbo which is as you say a fabulous car.

Donington and Bedford

Tankman said:

I was interested to see your dream garage has the ultra rare 968 Turbo . . . .

er cough er the RS version - a proper job - not some pimped marketing exercise

[Callan.T89]

I've had the pleasure of working on and setting-up a few of these, Great car, amazingly balanced but I will say the engine is completely devoid of character. It just seems to be horsepower by numbers. I would love to build a 968 CS with a 944 Turbo engine and front body (pop-up headlights!) That would be perfect...

[willdew]

cuneus said:

Tankman said:

I was interested to see your dream garage has the ultra rare 968 Turbo . . . .

er cough er the RS version - a proper job - not some pimped marketing exercise

I'm not sure what you mean when you say a marketing exercise. It's marketing in that they slashed the price in order to sell more cars. The CS was the cheapest 968, introduced because sales were so slow, because of a combination of a recession hitting and that it was priced too close to the 993. A CS was £5k - £7k cheaper than the std Coupe - the kind of marketing gimmick I like.

[Tankman]

cuneus said:

Tankman said:

Sorry, I forgot to ask you which tracks you have driven the 968 and your old 944 Turbo which is as you say a fabulous car.

Donington and Bedford

Tankman said:

I was interested to see your dream garage has the ultra rare 968 Turbo . . . .

er cough er the RS version - a proper job - not some pimped marketing exercise

Want for me to pass you the spade to dig yourself in deeper?;)

Edited by Tankman on Thursday 12th June 17:53

[ph123]

Way back, I had a 2 days demoing the 968 Turbo S at Silverstone and Donington (in the wet) when the factory bought one over (yellow car) and the 911 Carrera Turbo bodied RS (also yellow) for appropriate launch duties with Mark Hales. After pounding round for hours showing off to guests, you simply could not split the pair even when swopping drivers/cars, so evenly matched in laps times were they.

[MrTappets]

Saw a 996 GT3 RS in Duffield today - now that's a proper Porsche (and a Gumpert Apollo, for that matter, which I was not expecting)and i can't help feeling that they have really lost the plot in terms of purity recently. Guess thay are focussing a little too much on the cash.

[Miguel]

I drove a 1983 944 for many years. It was a really fun car to drive. It had no PS option, and its manual steering feel was amazing. Years later, I drove a later 924S and 944S2. Both of these had power steering fitted as standard. I was amazed that the steering feel was almost as good as that of the manual steering version. Great car, but too bad I never owned a more powerful version.

Miguel

[shoestring7]

kieronj said:

Regrettably I got scared away by an over cautious specialist warning me about the high number of fried ECUs on 968s.

Wierd. I've owned 2 968's, plus a 944t and 924S, and this is the first I've ever heard of 'fried ECU's.

SS7

[iguana]

shoestring7 said:

kieronj said:

Regrettably I got scared away by an over cautious specialist warning me about the high number of fried ECUs on 968s.

Wierd. I've owned 2 968's, plus a 944t and 924S, and this is the first I've ever heard of 'fried ECU's.

SS7

Indeed me too, as well as the diffs & prop bearings he common one on 968s, (unlike the 944s) - because of the way the vario works do eat cam teeth & every single one I know of has needed them replaced, even low milers, but many run happily with teeth missing for years- well untill they dont obviously to wallet hurting pain.

I too had 944 with Mo30, well actually ive had 2 one with old worn 120k mo30 one with brand new kit but for no god reaons I could fathom an mo30 968cs seemed to handle better?? tweeked 944t with just the regular mods does have very nearly 100bhp more then stock 968 tho & a stack more torque, so is rather a difernt beasty

[cuneus]

iguana said:

I too had 944 with Mo30, well actually ive had 2 one with old worn 120k mo30 one with brand new kit but for no god reasons I could fathom an mo30 968cs seemed to handle better??

The reason is that the 968 M030 is completely different:

Front shocks
Rear shocks with a coilover spring
Larger ARB's front (hollow) and rear - the latter is adjustable

can all be bolted onto the (later) 944T

Edited by cuneus on Friday 13th June 12:58

[stuartbuckell]

There was a 924 somewhere on the net I found, stripped out, newer 5 pot hubs, with an S2 3.0 engine and MO30 suspension. I bet that was fun :-)

[kieronj]

shoestring7 said:

kieronj said:

Regrettably I got scared away by an over cautious specialist warning me about the high number of fried ECUs on 968s.

Wierd. I've owned 2 968's, plus a 944t and 924S, and this is the first I've ever heard of 'fried ECU's.

SS7

Doh!!!! That was the ONLY reason I didn't go for a 968CS... Bugger bugger bugger bugger bugger

[David58]

NineOneSeven said:

scotty_917 said:

cvegas said:

Where is the Cayman CS? This car is crying out for a more focused lighter weight LSD equipped version.

Edited by cvegas on Wednesday 11th June 12:57

Porsche won't produce a version of the Cayman with an LSD......the reason being that performance wise it would take it beyond the base 997, which for the Porsche Marketing food chain would not be allowed.

Yeah isn't it sad that Porsche are engineering the car so its not at its full potential.

Bad Porsche! They lost their cool after the end of the 993 model range.

Porsche are dead to me...



well.. sort of

You want a ride in a GT3 then mate!

[shibby!]

I been looking into a new car for a wee while.

Was looking for an upgrade....

This does not seem to be an upgrade in power, but from what i head the handling is great.



There are a lot of people talking about M030, and LSD etc...

Did the 968CS come with LSD?
What is M030?

Is the suspension soft as some people are saying?

Nick

[ph123]

The Clubsports did not come with lsd as standard.
M030 was a box of sports parts - lowered ride height, drilled front discs, stiffer adjustable shox & a roll bars, etc
Go www.968uk.com for fullest detail.

[shibby!]

Cheers!

Some are advertised as having an LSD... Optional extra? or just a mod

[shibby!]

Never mind i read the site...

Not many of those bright blue ones going around! They look pretty darn good!



There are a few advrtised as being supercharged on Pistonheads... anyone have thought on these?

Or any experiance... does the supercharger really stress the engine in these

Nick

[JonRB]

kieronj said:

Bought a Corrado VR6, which I loved, but regret not having owned a 968 CS.

Kieron! Good to 'see' you!