RE: No Congestion Charge Increase

[Fiatfan]

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

[im]

fk I'm off to the hills...good luck...

[spoonoff]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Don't kid yourself with the environmental spiel. If everyone in the country drove a VW bluemotion, it would make less difference to CO2 emissions per year than if Drax broke down and went off line for a month.
Go find some facts for yourself about CO2 etc. and you will see what a con it all is.

[lunarscope]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

It's a 'congestion' charge - not an environmental charge.

[Le Man]

spoonoff said:

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Don't kid yourself with the environmental spiel. If everyone in the country drove a VW bluemotion, it would make less difference to CO2 emissions per year than if Drax broke down and went off line for a month.
Go find some facts for yourself about CO2 etc. and you will see what a con it all is.

Leave Drax alone... It produces great thermals for gliding which as everyone knows is a completely green sport!

[john_r]

Apparently Ken still turns up for work every day - something to do with the legislation around transferring from one mayor to another.

Sad little man desperately trying to tell people that the sky is falling in; sitting in an office with no windows next to the janitors’ cupboard probably. You can imagine the staff trying so hard to not make eye contact every time he walks the corridors. And I'll bet he probably gets to the canteen early for lunch and sits at the biggest table in the hope that people will come and sit with him...

Oh, isn't life great... I can't wait to see Brown experience this too!

[john_r]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Thanks for joining PistonHeads today and sharing that with us... It was a very special moment.

(and I thought they'd removed Kens internet access in his new office? )

[airborne]

So the freebie lower limit goes too?

I could have ordered the 500 Abarth rather than the 1.2 if that were the case.

[dean_ratpac]

m4tthew said:

Like stink on st.

'Futher blow to tackling climate change' my arse.

ken, listen, YOU DO NOT WORK THERE ANYMORE!!! And by the way, you're ruining my climate by hanging around like a bad smell...!

[supermono]

Fiatfan said:

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

You nut. Since when was the life giving gas carbon dioxide a pollutant, lol. You say it like a mondeo 1.8 leaves behind it some great plume of yellow smoke that kills old people.

Carbon dioxide -- the most natural gas in the world.

Don't let them tell you it's a poison, and please don't try telling me it's one. Because it's not.

SM

[zcacogp]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Chaps,

My troll-detector is going ballistic ... let's not rise to the bait, eh?


Oli.

[Razor_101]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Listen Ken, would you prefer it if richer families who can afford to shell out on 3-4 low emission cars adding to the congestion to bypass the charge to your normal working family who may only be able to afford one larger and slightly less efficient car?

Some people are absolutely thick as f*ck or like others say - another troll.

[Deltaf01]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Its not your place to decide who gets to drive what car and where, people shouldnt be hounded because of the choices they make because it dosent fit into some big nu labia socialist experiment.

[jonmsm]

GOOD STUFF BORRIS! People have missed a vital part ofhis argument - he said (and rightly so) it will hit families and small businesses hardest so he scrapped it! In the current economical climate this is a VERY wise plan. its these groups who need all the help they can get and yet every day the government is upping taxes on this that and the other for their John Lewis shopping list and second homes! Then this week the PM is blaming US, the PUBLIC for rising food costs becaus we waste too much... What we waste has SOD all to do with the price - your STUPID bio-fuel idea that wasn't thought through is driving up food costs. SO.. finally someone with some power who also has his head screwed on inline with the current economical crap holes were spiralling into and he made a decision for the people not the government coffers!

Mad Borris for PM!

[M5 Russ]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Don't you just hate people who spout this type of crap ?
Talk about Mr Labour party or what ha ha

I suppose that you also think that violent crime has risen because the Tories were in power for 18 years and its not Labours fault plus uncontrolled mass immigration is a great thing and having the highest tax rates in Europe is not their fault either.
Please get your head out of the sand and realise that Labour are raping this country in the name green taxes.
Sorry rant over.

[mk1fan]

Z064life said:

gumsie said:

You guys are all missing something. Tfl didn't pay the legal fees, WE did! That's right, you and I.
Commendations for Porsche for getting the sensible outcome but something else needs to be done at times like this. What ever the outcome Joe public has ended up with the bill.

Exactly what I was thinking. It's the revenue from our taxes paying for this.

Great, that means I've just made a Charitable donation. I was needing some God Points this month. Now, where's the Gift Aid checkbox?

[Fiatfan]

Razor_101 said:

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Listen Ken, would you prefer it if richer families who can afford to shell out on 3-4 low emission cars adding to the congestion to bypass the charge to your normal working family who may only be able to afford one larger and slightly less efficient car?

Some people are absolutely thick as f*ck or like others say - another troll.

Exactly why does a family need 3 to 4 low emission vehicles rather than one Cayenne? I was not aware that we were discussion the merits of 7 seat MPVs here. Most cars have 4 or 5 seats, a low CO2 vehicle is just as effective as a large SUV at carrying passengers. (Incidentally, a large SUV such as a Range Rover or Cayenne etc does cause more congestion than a small town car for those that bleat on that this is not an environmental charge).

[Z064life]

mk1fan said:

Z064life said:

gumsie said:

You guys are all missing something. Tfl didn't pay the legal fees, WE did! That's right, you and I.
Commendations for Porsche for getting the sensible outcome but something else needs to be done at times like this. What ever the outcome Joe public has ended up with the bill.

Exactly what I was thinking. It's the revenue from our taxes paying for this.

Great, that means I've just made a Charitable donation. I was needing some God Points this month. Now, where's the Gift Aid checkbox?

Think of it this way. You're paying ridiculous green, eco taxes which are silently fixing the environment behind the scenes. We still get natural disasters, melting ice caps, and the whole show, but these taxes are, believe it or not, fixing all that so for a lont time now you've been making a charitable donation.

[Supervet]

jonmsm said:

GOOD STUFF BORRIS! People have missed a vital part ofhis argument - he said (and rightly so) it will hit families and small businesses hardest so he scrapped it! In the current economical climate this is a VERY wise plan. its these groups who need all the help they can get and yet every day the government is upping taxes on this that and the other for their John Lewis shopping list and second homes! Then this week the PM is blaming US, the PUBLIC for rising food costs becaus we waste too much... What we waste has SOD all to do with the price - your STUPID bio-fuel idea that wasn't thought through is driving up food costs. SO.. finally someone with some power who also has his head screwed on inline with the current economical crap holes were spiralling into and he made a decision for the people not the government coffers!

Mad Borris for PM!

Hmm, Boris or Jezza?

[Double R]

go boris go!

now let's abolish the CC once and for all, clean up the road of speed cameras, better traffic light timing and eliminate bottlenecks on the roads.

Plenty to do but what a great start!

well done