RE: No Congestion Charge Increase

[otolith]

im said:

It may well be plant food - but it'll still kill you in high enough concentrations.

So will water. And oxygen.

[im]

magnus911 said:

Please read for your own sakes:

http://www.junkscience.com/news/robinson.htm

I'm in the Global Warming aint happening camp but some arguements put forward by the anti MMGW mob are every bit as nutty as those put forward for MMGW.

Here's a case in point...your link above is to a report published 11 years ago!

If that had been coming from a MMGW campaigner he'd have been eaten alive.

[im]

otolith said:

im said:

It may well be plant food - but it'll still kill you in high enough concentrations.

So will water. And oxygen.

Again true - but I never said they wouldn't "so don't tell me otherwise" blah blah.

[tinman0]

LexSport said:

You have to hand it to Porsche - this has turned out to be a perfect PR exercise.

Yup, and where were the rest of the luxury makers on this one? No where to be seen. Good PR for Porsche indeed.

[Crimp a Length!]

Good on Porsche, and everyone who signed the petition.
Fair play to the man Boris, up to yet a breath of fresh air.
Feck off Red Ken no one likes you or yer policies.

[Deltaf01]

spoonoff said:

colonel c said:

More good news.

'Last night Jenny Jones, Green party assembly member.'

Said she was "appalled by the decision."

At least she still has her good looks to console herself.

^^^^^
Shoulda gone to specsavers..

[Deltaf01]

Gazboy said:

Fiatfan said:

Well the embassys should pay if they insist on carrying one ambassador in a car that is unsuitable for London. They could easily also use a sensible city car or is it important that the ambassador of some tin pot nation is transported arround London in a 7 Series? (I am so impressed when I see the ambassador of some nation of poor country in a big BMW/Mercedes)

This is not envy based simply making people use sensible cars within London. I would rather drive a low CO2 car in London than ride a bicycle.

So, again, how many embassies & consulates did Ken take to court over non-payments of the congestion charge?

Well he definitely didnt take the Venezuelan Embassy to court.

[turboman808]

I fail to grasp how this is a win? You still have congestion charges don't you? I mean I see it doesn't play favoritism but it's just confirmed you all get equally screwed.

But I am in the states so I could be missing something.

[im]

turboman808 said:

I fail to grasp how this is a win? You still have congestion charges don't you? I mean I see it doesn't play favoritism but it's just confirmed you all get equally screwed.

But I am in the states so I could be missing something.

Nope - you've called it correctly from what I can see - short of getting rid of the whole thing, everything else is just tinkering at the edges.

[Fiatfan]

CanAm said:

Fiatfan said:

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

London taxis are now the single most common vehicle in the City. Ken made them exempt from the Congestion Charge. And if you check on the official government website you will see that even a brand-new one falls into Emission Band G. Spot the bad decision there?

Agreed, and perhaps Boris can could take up the challenge to get the black cab redesigned into a more environmentally friendly device whilst he redesigns the Routemaster!

[tinman0]

Fiatfan said:

CanAm said:

Fiatfan said:

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

London taxis are now the single most common vehicle in the City. Ken made them exempt from the Congestion Charge. And if you check on the official government website you will see that even a brand-new one falls into Emission Band G. Spot the bad decision there?

Agreed, and perhaps Boris can could take up the challenge to get the black cab redesigned into a more environmentally friendly device whilst he redesigns the Routemaster!

Of course, because LTI haven't spent years trying to make the cab more efficient in the first place. In fact, they work to make the vehicle more inefficient in the first place because they know that cabbies love doing 20mpg.

[turboman808]

I find it funny and kinda sad when people expect to get rewarded by the government when you do what they say.

Thats how you train a dog.

Oddly enough I treat my dog better then they treat you. Anyone else insulted that I treat my dog better then your elected officials treat you?

-Pay your taxes dog and shut up!!! I'll tell you what to think, what to see, and what to feel.-

[Marquis_Rex]

Fiatfan said:

Boris is a complete fool. There was an opportunity to encourage small economical more environmentally friendly cars but he chose to bow to Porsche and benefit the users of gas guzzling cars.

I love peformance cars in the right environment but central London is not the right place. Furthermore this move will just encourage the housewives to drive Range Rovers and Cayennes into the zone.

At the very least sub 120g/km vehicles should have been encouraged over heavy poluting vehicles.

Anything can be rationalised and it takes brainwashees- to follow without question like good little citizens (what is this?- Germany?).

It could be made law not to focus on tail pipe emissions and only allow old 'survivors' like my 1970 Dodge Challenger into London free, as no energy and material had been wasted in its 38 year life span in frequently making new cars ;-)

[thunderbelmont]

otolith said:

im said:

It may well be plant food - but it'll still kill you in high enough concentrations.

So will water. And oxygen.

Oxygen causes cellular degredation. It causes the body's cells to die.

The only real solution is to stop breathing straight away before you inhale any more of these evil toxins spewed out from the gas guzzling monsters that inhabit our roads.

Make them pay more tax I tell you! More!

What's that? They do already? No surely, they can't be, otherwise why would the pinko lefty bds in power try to find another tax revenue stream.....

Eco-box doing 50mpg yeilds £0.018/mile in fuel duty, and £0.0163/mile in VAT for HM Govt Residue & Customs.

Horrible Polluting RangeRover doing 6mpg yeilds 8.33 Times more at £0.15/mile in fuel duty, and £0.136/mile.

Now Captain Darling you white haired black eyebrowed bd, wouldn't it be better for the tax revenue of good old Blighty if your misguided idiot colleagues hadn't branded such things as the spawn of Satan. You could be quids in! Fool.

[zakmat]

magnus911 said:

God I hope something horrible happens to Ken

I totally agree, I would piss myself if he became another knife crime statistic!

I really hate the fking left wing commie , the jealous little socialist prick that he is. Ken you , I hope you die a slow painfull death!!!

[Sgt^Roc]

Jimbo_vx said:

Nice one Boris, finally some common sense.

Good on Porche to be donating their legal fees too.

yep and up yours Ken...

[rchadd]

what the hell is Ken Livingstone on the telly for tonight?

FFS he lost...why doesn't he just FOAD?

and those bloody greenies are still bleating on their usual garbage

[cvegas]

Now make alternative fuel and electric vehicles pay too. No cars are green and it is supposed to a congestion charge!

[shadows.fan]

any one with a piston heads car sticker shd only pay 10p to drive in london
ian

[johnnyv6]

actually global warming IS happening pretending it isnt wont make it go away ...come to that NOTHING we do is going to make it go away, something i watched a while back really started me thinking.....do you know what ACTUALLY makes the most carbon dioxide in our atmosphere.............plankton apparently......six TRILLION tonnes of it per year and it seems the cycle is plankton grows year on year on year till the output of carbon dioxide causes global warming - about every fourteen thousand years ....ice caps melt and lo we got a new ice age.it gets cold - plankton dies co 2 drops earth passes go......... you get the picture oddly enough weve had an ice age every fourteen thousand years since adam was a boy and we had our last one errrrrrrm...thirteen and a half thousand years ago trouble is THIS one is being aided by there only being a thin line of trees up the middle of south america these days as one poster said co2 = plant food but if there aint the plants !!!! eureka ive had a brain wave........ Gordon tax the plankton and leave us the eff alone lol theres a job for ken get him a boat and a ticket machine