Tyre Stretching!!! PH strikes again.
Discussion
proseal said:
I believe your all a bunch of t
ts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all
If you ts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all Now wind your neck in and carry on enjoying half-term!
proseal said:
I believe your all a bunch of tts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all
Do you hate even me proseal? It's a shame if you do because I have a great capacity for love and am sending some your way now as I type this. Feel my love proseal, feel it as it wraps its warm tendrils around your negative vibes.ts, who are you to say if something is bad or good, it is entirely up to the OWNER OF THE CAR to decide on what he likes, and why do you give a fk, your on a website that is devoted to fast cars hypocrites. i hate you all Now proseal, get on your knees and shut your eyes, that's it - don't look at me, I can't do it when you look at me. Now prepare yourself for my benediction proseal - here you might want to bite down on this in a minute - and repeat after me:
"I proseal, who art a believer in all things VW, and the ungodly act of stretching my vulcanised ring to it limits, repent and promise to give up on my filthy predilections and leave my hoop as God intended"
Amen Brother.
Most of the extreme stetchers are probably trailer queens. Or just put the wheels on for shows.
But there are also those running these setups daily who slowly proving that it isnt as dangerous as some of the people here would have you beleive. I visit E38 regularly and am yet to read a thread about stretched tyres randomly popping off rims or of people losing control due to lack of grip.
But without emperical evidence to prove either way I find it hard to beleive that some people are so far up their own asses that they can spout their opinions as fact without question.
I do think that if taken too far that it can look daft, but I dont believe that all these people with stretch are losing control and taking out other road users.
But there are also those running these setups daily who slowly proving that it isnt as dangerous as some of the people here would have you beleive. I visit E38 regularly and am yet to read a thread about stretched tyres randomly popping off rims or of people losing control due to lack of grip.
But without emperical evidence to prove either way I find it hard to beleive that some people are so far up their own asses that they can spout their opinions as fact without question.
I do think that if taken too far that it can look daft, but I dont believe that all these people with stretch are losing control and taking out other road users.
hombrepaulo said:
Most of the extreme stetchers are probably trailer queens. Or just put the wheels on for shows.
But there are also those running these setups daily who slowly proving that it isnt as dangerous as some of the people here would have you beleive. I visit E38 regularly and am yet to read a thread about stretched tyres randomly popping off rims or of people losing control due to lack of grip.
But without emperical evidence to prove either way I find it hard to beleive that some people are so far up their own asses that they can spout their opinions as fact without question.
I do think that if taken too far that it can look daft, but I dont believe that all these people with stretch are losing control and taking out other road users.
I claim not to be an expert on this topic, however I would have thought that with extreme stretch the chance of damage to wheels would increase greatly from potholes. Would such a stretch be more likely to expose any defects in the tyre itself?But there are also those running these setups daily who slowly proving that it isnt as dangerous as some of the people here would have you beleive. I visit E38 regularly and am yet to read a thread about stretched tyres randomly popping off rims or of people losing control due to lack of grip.
But without emperical evidence to prove either way I find it hard to beleive that some people are so far up their own asses that they can spout their opinions as fact without question.
I do think that if taken too far that it can look daft, but I dont believe that all these people with stretch are losing control and taking out other road users.
Ultimately it is up to the end user. I think what annoys most on here is that, by taking the tyres out of the specifications drawn up by the manufacturer (the people who know more about their own tyres than we ever will) they are entering an unknown field. No one is sure if it will case catastrophic failure at some point or not. Why should the people who stretch the tyres to the extreme and use them daily put others at risk by driving around on something that cannot be guaranteed to be safe. Strikes me as incredibly selfish.
Plus, my parking absolutely blows so I would undoubtedly dominate the rim.
Petrolhead_Rich said:
+1
They deformed the tyres to make them grip LESS.
They were probably aware this may result in blowouts etc too, but were aware they were in a controlled environment with lots of safety gear.
Wrong.They deformed the tyres to make them grip LESS.
They were probably aware this may result in blowouts etc too, but were aware they were in a controlled environment with lots of safety gear.
More grip means you drift faster, which is more fun and more exciting both for the driver and the spectator. Reducing grip isn't the some magic way to make you drift. It might make it marginally more controllable because you're going slower.
Tell you what, why don't you drop Phil Morrison at Driftworks a phone call or an email, and ask him why he and his team have spent so much time and money developing roll centre correcting and bump steer reducing hubs, and specifying coilovers to HSD for the cars they like to drift if they enjoy driving with no grip?
He, and many others, have said countless times that proper drifting - ie getting lots of angle, smoke and speed is nothing without lots of grip to start off with.
If these cars had no grip, they would not be entering Brooklands at 100mph in competition in the various drift championships when they head to Silverstone. The basis of your argument for drifters running stretched tyres because they want to reduce grip is fundamentally flawed on so many levels it hurts my brain.
Before someone sets a lynch mob on me by suggesting that I am somehow claiming that stretched tyres will give you extra grip - I'm not. For drifters, the tyre stretching is to achieve looks and stance, not to reduce grip. Not even close.
Edited by zeppelin101 on Monday 18th October 18:01
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