RE: Ferrari F430 Coupe F1
Discussion
Why would you use A23 just to get in / out of Brighton? There are a few great roads (unmarked) north east or west of the town that should have been driven 
But I suppose he had to write "it is so great in the traffic unlike the Fezzas of the past". How many more times will we be bored with that...
But I suppose he had to write "it is so great in the traffic unlike the Fezzas of the past". How many more times will we be bored with that...fairplay101 said:
You're on a car appreciation and enthusiast site GKP, what sort of response did you expect? My answer to your post wasn't limited to Ferrari either, who you seem to be a little bitter and twisted about!
The creative journalism in this case could also be applied to the premises of many top marques, some I've listed above. It's also clearly a little bit of fun and atmosphere setting, I suspect the journalist had a massive smile on his face at the time and truly was a little over-awed, why shouldn't they be?
And if it really is 'just car' a to you, then please provide us with a definition of what that means? Please really do, what is a car to you, because that's the biggest piece of broadstroke crap I've heard on this board!
Thankyou for pointing out the type of forum I've been a member of for the past 4 and a half years. Without astute observations like that, I'd be writing about planks and bicycles by mistake.The creative journalism in this case could also be applied to the premises of many top marques, some I've listed above. It's also clearly a little bit of fun and atmosphere setting, I suspect the journalist had a massive smile on his face at the time and truly was a little over-awed, why shouldn't they be?
And if it really is 'just car' a to you, then please provide us with a definition of what that means? Please really do, what is a car to you, because that's the biggest piece of broadstroke crap I've heard on this board!
I am, I believe, allowed to have preferences and favourites along with certain dislikes? I choose, therefore, to not like Ferrari but prefer other marques instead.
One of the reasons for this is the whole perceived 'Aura' and subsequent 'Can do no Wrong' opinions held by their fanboys and dreamers. This I find particularly grating, so when a journalist starts to spout rubbish alluding to a mythical and religious experience, I can't take their view seriously.
A journalist should be able to give a clear and concise review with a touch of cynicism and break away from the 'In Awe' writings. That is why I question whether people are really taken in by the fluff and guff that was spouted in the first couple of paragraphs of the article.
It seems some more easily led folks are.
GKP said:
fairplay101 said:
You're on a car appreciation and enthusiast site GKP, what sort of response did you expect? My answer to your post wasn't limited to Ferrari either, who you seem to be a little bitter and twisted about!
The creative journalism in this case could also be applied to the premises of many top marques, some I've listed above. It's also clearly a little bit of fun and atmosphere setting, I suspect the journalist had a massive smile on his face at the time and truly was a little over-awed, why shouldn't they be?
And if it really is 'just car' a to you, then please provide us with a definition of what that means? Please really do, what is a car to you, because that's the biggest piece of broadstroke crap I've heard on this board!
Thankyou for pointing out the type of forum I've been a member of for the past 4 and a half years. Without astute observations like that, I'd be writing about planks and bicycles by mistake.The creative journalism in this case could also be applied to the premises of many top marques, some I've listed above. It's also clearly a little bit of fun and atmosphere setting, I suspect the journalist had a massive smile on his face at the time and truly was a little over-awed, why shouldn't they be?
And if it really is 'just car' a to you, then please provide us with a definition of what that means? Please really do, what is a car to you, because that's the biggest piece of broadstroke crap I've heard on this board!
I am, I believe, allowed to have preferences and favourites along with certain dislikes? I choose, therefore, to not like Ferrari but prefer other marques instead.
One of the reasons for this is the whole perceived 'Aura' and subsequent 'Can do no Wrong' opinions held by their fanboys and dreamers. This I find particularly grating, so when a journalist starts to spout rubbish alluding to a mythical and religious experience, I can't take their view seriously.
A journalist should be able to give a clear and concise review with a touch of cynicism and break away from the 'In Awe' writings. That is why I question whether people are really taken in by the fluff and guff that was spouted in the first couple of paragraphs of the article.
It seems some more easily led folks are.
Also, if all journalism worked within the confines of the parameters you set then what an exciting profession it would be....But honestly, you shouldn't let it get you quite so upset, after all it's just an article, talking about just a car!
fairplay101 said:
But honestly, you shouldn't let it get you quite so upset, after all it's just an article, talking about just a car!
If you read my original posting all I did was ask the question as to whether people really did believe all the fluff that is, still to this day, being spouted about the marque.That didn't bear any animosity or hints as to my mood. What has miffed me is being called stupid, a plank, a cyclist, ad nauseum... simply because I dared to suggest that those who think picking up the keys to a loaner Ferrai is a religious experience are, perhaps, misguided.
But the car? I read the article because I have an interest in cars, even the ones I don't like. I'm sure it's lovely to those who like that sort of thing and certainly appeals to some. If liked them I'd probably buy one. However, it leaves me cold.
I agree on the article being a bit over the top in irrational appraisal. I do like the F430 as a sportscar, but I don't need the "it's a religious experience" bullcrap that comes up whenever someone mentions Ferrari. It's the same aura of mysticism that makes sure I won't buy Apple or Bose products any time soon either - granted, those companies all have some good products on offer nowadays, but then on the other hand, they all try to keep complete control over technical information and even their already-sold product in a fashion that to me just seems fascist. You want to buy, the vendor should give you the information you need for your decision; You buy it, you do what you like with it, that's my opinion.
Ok, so for some people this elitist aura and the possibility of sharing their emotions with likeminded individuals are probably most of the fun in owning such goods (which is perfectly fine, your money, your decision), but to me sportscars are all about the driving experience and the engineering that goes into them. I also prefer to get my hands dirty on the bits of technology I own.
Chris
Ok, so for some people this elitist aura and the possibility of sharing their emotions with likeminded individuals are probably most of the fun in owning such goods (which is perfectly fine, your money, your decision), but to me sportscars are all about the driving experience and the engineering that goes into them. I also prefer to get my hands dirty on the bits of technology I own.
Chris
GKP said:
fairplay101 said:
But honestly, you shouldn't let it get you quite so upset, after all it's just an article, talking about just a car!
If you read my original posting all I did was ask the question as to whether people really did believe all the fluff that is, still to this day, being spouted about the marque.That didn't bear any animosity or hints as to my mood. What has miffed me is being called stupid, a plank, a cyclist, ad nauseum... simply because I dared to suggest that those who think picking up the keys to a loaner Ferrai is a religious experience are, perhaps, misguided.
But the car? I read the article because I have an interest in cars, even the ones I don't like. I'm sure it's lovely to those who like that sort of thing and certainly appeals to some. If liked them I'd probably buy one. However, it leaves me cold.
fairplay101 said:
jgt1972 said:
GKP said:
Four wheels and an engine. It's a car! 
I'm on your side mate...good points, well put.
polar8 said:
spikeyplanet said:
Brilliant!
But the internal dilema of a F430 or Gallardo in the dream garage rages on...
[the Ferrari has it today after reading that!]
I tested a 430 and Gallardo back to back last weekend -- I really did not enjoy the ferrari - felt a little embarrassed driving round in it and absolutely did not like the sound at all -- when the valve opens you want to hide from passers by... The gallardo on the other hand... completely different experience - absolutely loved it - felt more sure footed, better built and even felt faster - above all it sounded 10x better. I understand one is either a gallardo fan or 430 fan but not both... But the internal dilema of a F430 or Gallardo in the dream garage rages on...
[the Ferrari has it today after reading that!]
Excellent write-up, Oli. The Ferrari's F1 sequential box also made me a believer.
Miguel
GKP said:
Take the blinkers off. Ferrari are a very successful money making enterprise that trade on nothing more than people's willingness to believe. At the prices that Ferrari charge their customers I would expect the vehicle to be good at it's job and it's only in recent years that the car has lived up to it's reputation. But they are not for me.
Having recently watched that documentary about the goings on at maranello I'd say Feraris are pretty cheap.I recently drove an F360 Spyder; good experience but it left me a bit cold tbh so I'm nearly with you. I do lust after the 355 though, one of them with a tubi exhaust would be in my lottery garage, parked next to a Murciélago (for the wife) and an LP640 (for me).
Oli S said:
shoestring7 said:
NIIKME said:
i dont get the tunnel thing. i come off this junc a lot and head to staines but the only tunnel i know is where you go around a giant roundabout underneath the M25 towards bedfont ??????? help me please its doing my head in!!
Shirley he means the one by the roundabout at the end of the Egham bypass (that runs past Maranello's).SS7
GKP said:
fairplay101 said:
But honestly, you shouldn't let it get you quite so upset, after all it's just an article, talking about just a car!
If you read my original posting all I did was ask the question as to whether people really did believe all the fluff that is, still to this day, being spouted about the marque.That didn't bear any animosity or hints as to my mood. What has miffed me is being called stupid, a plank, a cyclist, ad nauseum... simply because I dared to suggest that those who think picking up the keys to a loaner Ferrai is a religious experience are, perhaps, misguided.
But the car? I read the article because I have an interest in cars, even the ones I don't like. I'm sure it's lovely to those who like that sort of thing and certainly appeals to some. If liked them I'd probably buy one. However, it leaves me cold.
I for one enjoyed reading some more "personal" story then a typical journalist write up. IF I want to know all the specs about a certain car, or how it compares to some other similar car, I can read a magazine. That's what I like about Pistonheads, it is thinking a bit "out of the box"
Thanks Oli for sharing your experiences... but can't say I'm jealous of it
No, because, after all, it's just a Ferrari... LOOOOL Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff