RE: PH Heroes: Renault Clio V6 255

RE: PH Heroes: Renault Clio V6 255

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matt81irl

1 posts

186 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Dizeee said:
I drove a 255 this year and liked it but was nowhere near as imppressed as I thought I would be. It didn't feel very fast and the torque felt surprisingly weak unless your ringing it's neck. I can imagine the 255 being extremely competent however in say 2/3rd gear, keeping it at high revs and feeding throttle into and out of a series of bends (i.e track driving).

My main gripe was that I could not find a way of turning the traction control off, which p---ed me off, as it was a real hinderance.

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Edited by Dizeee on Monday 13th October 01:32
nice little article there...had to nip out for a quick drive on my lunch there, and as usual loved every minute of it!

But in regards to turning the traction control off...the v6 doesnt have traction control!

AliV6

682 posts

188 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Dizeee said:
I drove a 255 this year and liked it but was nowhere near as imppressed as I thought I would be. It didn't feel very fast and the torque felt surprisingly weak unless your ringing it's neck. I can imagine the 255 being extremely competent however in say 2/3rd gear, keeping it at high revs and feeding throttle into and out of a series of bends (i.e track driving).

My main gripe was that I could not find a way of turning the traction control off, which p---ed me off, as it was a real hinderance.

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Edited by Dizeee on Monday 13th October 01:32
eh??! What traction control? Sure you drove a Clio V6? lol

Dizeee

18,302 posts

206 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Yes, I drove an o5 plate blue 255 Clio V6 which had traction control, so that if the rear end even had the slightest twitch, the power was cut, and at the same time the orange ESP style light illuminated on the dash. Especially irritating around roundabouts. I spoke to the dealer who told me it could not be turned off...

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

199 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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We have a Mk1 which is currently being upgraded to approx 350 BHP, definately no traction control being added, fancy a go Diz?

Dizeee

18,302 posts

206 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Yeah sure, have been looking forward to the end of your project. You going to take it to Charlies at the end?

TTwiggy

11,538 posts

204 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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I had a 'play' with a V6 Clio a few years ago when I had my 147 Gta. I was coming back from Dorset after New Years and one went flying past me on a dual carriageway. We both got to a roundabout where he had to stop, so we hit the next straight togther. Have to say it was quite a breeze to power past the Clio - and the driver was definately trying. Oh, and my car was three up and full of luggage.

Not knocking the Clio though, as I think mad cars like this should be savoured.

Ddouble

81 posts

187 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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the vee doesnt have traction control, neither model.

that flashing light on the dash would of most prob been the brake fluid light, it does that when the fluid is low and you go round a corner.

in performance terms they are very similar to an r32/focus rs in my experience - ive owned a mk1 for nearly a year now.

they are not really fast cars, but not exactly slow either, they are alot of fun!!!

id imagine the ground clearance of a v6 is as bad as/worse than the lowered boxter, it does not like speedbumps!!! you have to crawl over them. transitions in car parks have to be taken at angles sometimes too.

Dizeee

18,302 posts

206 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Im slightly concerned by all this, I am by no means an expert on the Clio V6 but I must say that the one I drove did have some sort of ESP aswell as a dash illuminary to show when it ws being activated.

I don't know how to put it really, but here are the facts:

-The car was an 05 blue 255 V6 with 1 previous owner at 25k miles

-I was given it for an hour to play with

-In that time I had a good play and very soon on I realised that on the limit, power was cut from the rear wheels

-I was surprised and tested this out on a roundabout by progressivley learning the limit and flooring it in circles. I found that at the slightest twitch of oversteer and before what you would deem the critical moment of throttle lift off, the car would cut the drive itself, thus preventing what it thought was certain doom

-This cut off was accompanied by the typical yellow flashing ESP light within the dash

-I tried to turn off the traction control but was amazed that there was no function to do so.

-I spoke at length with the dealer who confirmed that the passive TC could not be turned off***

Cant say much more really.

  • *Maybe the V6 has a dormant TC system that kicks in only when you push it to the limits. I know that when I and turn my ESP off, as in many other cars, it is till there at around 15% and ready to kick in at the last moment when things get really hairy...
Very interesting to read the above as this was my main gripe with the V6. I'm not saying I am right by any means, but I promise you, this is all exactly was it was on the day...


Ddouble

81 posts

187 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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it defintely isnt slower than 172/182, ive had numerous runs with them.

the vee pulls away off the mark better, is faster mid range and markably faster when you hit a hundred beans.

however its far less of a challenge to drive a 1*2 quickly round a track so doesnt suprise me people are quicker in them there!

Buffalo Girls

263 posts

212 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Dizeee said:
Im slightly concerned by all this, I am by no means an expert on the Clio V6 but I must say that the one I drove did have some sort of ESP aswell as a dash illuminary to show when it ws being activated.

I don't know how to put it really, but here are the facts:

-The car was an 05 blue 255 V6 with 1 previous owner at 25k miles

-I was given it for an hour to play with

-In that time I had a good play and very soon on I realised that on the limit, power was cut from the rear wheels

-I was surprised and tested this out on a roundabout by progressivley learning the limit and flooring it in circles. I found that at the slightest twitch of oversteer and before what you would deem the critical moment of throttle lift off, the car would cut the drive itself, thus preventing what it thought was certain doom

-This cut off was accompanied by the typical yellow flashing ESP light within the dash

-I tried to turn off the traction control but was amazed that there was no function to do so.

-I spoke at length with the dealer who confirmed that the passive TC could not be turned off***

Cant say much more really.

  • *Maybe the V6 has a dormant TC system that kicks in only when you push it to the limits. I know that when I and turn my ESP off, as in many other cars, it is till there at around 15% and ready to kick in at the last moment when things get really hairy...
Very interesting to read the above as this was my main gripe with the V6. I'm not saying I am right by any means, but I promise you, this is all exactly was it was on the day...
A V6 doesn't have traction control or ESP.

Dizeee

18,302 posts

206 months

Tuesday 14th October 2008
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Thats bizarre as the one I drove did, and the dealer said it could not be turned off... I have no idea how or why, but there is no other way of saying it, it had traction control!!!

imclueless

208 posts

216 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Came across alot of them on Trip round the EVO triangle. Always impressed me but not sure I have the talent to drive them properly.

ld50

10 posts

193 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Recently had to sell my 3rd Vee to fund a house move and I'm still in mourning. She managed everything from commuting to shopping to tracking and put a grin on my face every time I looked at her.

So maybe Vees aren't the quickest, or the best handling, but they win hands down in the fun stakes.

btw isn't that Vee in the pics liquid yellow not acid?

Pingman

406 posts

201 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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I've admired the bonkers Clio V6 ever since I randomly saw one in a Renault showroom when accompanying a friend to test drive a normal clio.

Allways wanted to give one a proper drive, i'm not going to go and test pilot some poor guys though like others may do, is there any where I can drive one, perhaps a track day event that has one?

LHDisbest

17,000 posts

187 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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I remember clear as day when 'our' mk2 showroom car arrived. I was in charge of booking the car in and getting it cleaned for the showroom. So on went the trade plates and a quick run to the petrol station.

WOW! every journey was an event in that little car, properly quick if i had one complaint its that Renaultsport didn't give the car a smaller steering wheel (thats my gripe with all the 172/182/v6's)

Never driven a Mk1, seen a few pass through the workshop tho. But i still didnt get the joy of selling one (my colleague at the time sold 3 or 4 i can't quite remember)

I'm just sad i dont work for Renault any more (Twingo 133 sob...) but im glad i did when they produced so many mad cars (Avantime/Vel Satis/Clio V6).


dave71

44 posts

188 months

Saturday 25th October 2008
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I've wanted one of these babies ever since I drove one at Upper Heyford RAF base near Bicester, which is now a secure compound for c 10,000 cars awaiting delivery to dealers. It was a phase II in Illiad Blue, (not 'cup' or Illiard) brand new on a 53 or 04 plate. I floored it up the runway and was doing 60/70 in easily 5-6 secs; from that day I was in love with the PII V6 and vowed to own one one day.

The 40mm extra width on the chassis coupled with the extra 23mm on the wheelbase sets it apart from the PhI, as does the fact that it was all Renaultsport. TWR made such a pig's ear of the PhI - assembling the main car in Dieppe and then having it finished off in Sweden, (I believe) that they had to make the PhII the car it should've been in the first place.

The difference between Liquid (featured car) and Acid is that the Liquid is a solid butter-looking colour, whereas Acid is lighter, metallic, and a bit more subtle. Black is the best colour imho.

PetrolheadRacing

12 posts

186 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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I own one of these, silver gray. I have been looking to put a loud exhaust on it, any recomendations? How do they sound?


GnuBee

1,272 posts

215 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Visit www.v6Clio.net - there's been regular discussion on the various exhaust options but in summary:

Quicksilver
Quicksilver OMG (Very loud, resonant at 3k)
K-Tec
K-Tec full system i.e. manifolds
Orbisoud (I think there may be a group buy going on for these)
Custom

Expect to pay anything from around £750 new. Quicksilver ones do appear for sale everynow and then.

Forget claims that any of cheaper ones will liberate 10 -> 15bhp and just enjoy the noise. The primary restriction in the exhaust system is the manifolds and the cats so a full system like the K-Tec one or a custom designed system may give some additional go.

All will look better, last longer and sound better than OEM. Personally I've got a Quicksilver on mine and it sounds very nice.

Edited by GnuBee on Thursday 30th October 08:34

need45peed

34 posts

256 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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A brilliant car, but it screams for a sequential gearchange.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

209 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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I really, really want a Phase 2 V6...

One day! lick