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Blukoo
3,339 posts
66 months
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Moosh said: As of 2004, FIAT owns 56% of Ferrari, Mediobanca owns 15%, Commerzbank owns 10%, Lehman Brothers owns 7%, and Enzo's adopted son Piero Ferrari owns 10%. ...
Is a FIAT a supercar? What sort of crack are you smoking?
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Moosh
840 posts
90 months
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Blukoo said: Moosh said: As of 2004, FIAT owns 56% of Ferrari, Mediobanca owns 15%, Commerzbank owns 10%, Lehman Brothers owns 7%, and Enzo's adopted son Piero Ferrari owns 10%. ...
Is a FIAT a supercar? What sort of crack are you smoking?  
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Stigmundfreud
19,902 posts
79 months
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Blukoo said: Stigmundfreud said: cvegas said: Custard yellow not the best choice of colour! its got Audi a  hole lights Council estate fairy lights.  proppa bo innit bruv, gets some neons on and it be well wickid
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E21_Ross
10,502 posts
81 months
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i am lucky enough to know someone who test drove a turbo...they said the pace of the thing was just ridiculously fast. they didn't buy it after all...one thing they said was the engine noise wasn't that great. they said it was a fantastic car; they got a db9 instead. probably for better waftability...
i would say it's a supercar...just. the figures are definitely there.
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BAHN-STORMA
2,640 posts
59 months
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CGT is a supercar... the 997TT isn't exactly a dog though!
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plenty
1,918 posts
55 months
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Yawn. They've been writing this same story since the 1970s - first the 3.0/3.3 Turbo vs Countach and Boxer/Testarossa, then the 993 vs Diablo/512TR, and so on.
Few of today's half-breed Audi-Lambos and VW testbed machines can get within a sniff of the pedigree of a Porsche Turbo. Yes, many say that the 996s/997s have lost something, and I really don't like the side air vents, but I still would feel the thrill going my spine getting into a 997 TT, sharper than just about any vehicle on the planet.
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youngsyr
6,784 posts
61 months
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A tidy 997 turbo will turn heads on Park Lane just as much as any Lambo or Ferrari 430.
I reckon it's a super car, but as others have said, with cars like the Veyron, McMerc, Koenigsegg, Carrera GT and the Enzo about, the 911 Turbo does pale a little.
So for me: super car, yes. Hyper car, no.
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nevyn
497 posts
56 months
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BEN66 said: cvegas said: A souped-up car not a supercar? Yup, kind of. In the same way a tuned Evo/Impreza/Cosworth will never be a super car. It's not just speed, to be super a car needs the whole package, the 911 turbo is, essentialy, just a tuned 911. Actually not The engine in the turbo is a DE-tuned GT1 engine It is most definately a super car The torn in Maranello's side. Nevyn
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[AJ]
2,923 posts
67 months
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BEN66 said: markmullen said: BEN66 said: markmullen said: BEN66 said: It aint supercar, it's just a goodcar. I would disagree, performance figures like that put it squarely in supercar territory. Are the new Audi estates destined to be supercars? No. The Porsche is just a top of the range car. It just doesn't look like a super car, more like any other 911, which aren't exactly rare any more, it's not exotic, nor interesting enough. Excellent it may be, super? No. Take a drive of one and tell me they're similar to an Audi estate. Give Audi a few years.... Go to a supercar meet, there will be a 911 Turbo there. Read a supercar book, it will have a 911 Turbo in it. Watch a supercar DVD, it will feature a 911 Turbo. Although we are all entitled to our own opinion, the general consensus is that the 911 Turbo is in fact, a supercar.
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pshooter
24 posts
54 months
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For all the people who find it hard to call ANY 911 Turbo a supercar you have only got to look in the history books.. they have always been relentless competition for the likes of ferrari, lambo, etc no matter what they bring to the table.
In my opinion its more of a supercar then many of the forementioned as it at least has its own chassis, drivetrain, engine where the likes of the audis, lambo's, ferrari etc etc etc lend much of their performance to shared/standardised parts.
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DucatiGary
7,765 posts
94 months
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one day ben will experience a 997 turbo and be blown away by the sheer mind bogglingness of them.
they are like a speed tardis, do 140 in one and it feels like 70 in any other car.
when that day comes he will understand.
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kambites
32,864 posts
90 months
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I really want to like the top end 911s, but somehow I just can't get past the looks. 
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HAB
3,582 posts
96 months
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kambites said: I really want to like the top end 911s, but somehow I just can't get past the looks. Polarising opinion is an integral part of the 911 - long may it continue.
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BAHN-STORMA
2,640 posts
59 months
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kambites said: but somehow I just can't get past the looks. Guess you won't like any of them then - your loss..... 
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Lord Snot
5,169 posts
83 months
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Can't help but laugh at all the "it's not a supercar" posts. What tosh.
Was a passenger in one once, laugh out loud acceleration. It felt like it was tearing my face off.
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Lord Snot
5,169 posts
83 months
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BEN66 said: It aint supercar, it's just a goodcar. I can assure you it is way, way beyond super, let alone "good".
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-Z-
1,573 posts
75 months
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Supercar or not, I'll bet Bugatti can stitch a straight line on a leather seat and not a wonky one like in the pic!: 
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Crimp a Length!
4,730 posts
92 months
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911 turbo is the bench mark for all super cars always has been.
At one time the 911 turbo was the fastest accelerating car in the world.
Oh and its about half the price, can be used every day without breaking down.
end of story.
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HAB
3,582 posts
96 months
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Why are airbag wheels so big and ugly?
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Andyuk911
1,847 posts
78 months
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Enjoyable read .... I understand the point that is made, and one I have been trying to answer myself.
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