Morris Marina owners response to THAT burning.

Morris Marina owners response to THAT burning.

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Ginge R

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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It might be somewhere within the TG thread, but I thought their own thread deserved its own mention. Ok, the schoolboy in me can't help but smile as the awful realisation of it all slowly dawns on them, but they've got a point.. haven't they?

Unless all is not what it seems..?

http://www.fastmarinamagazine.com/viewtopic.php?t=...

Edited: spolling.

Edited by Ginge R on Monday 8th December 22:49

Ment-Al

16,985 posts

195 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Hahahaha - priceless.

TehMonkey

387 posts

187 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Hilarious laugh

If it was a decent old classic I could understand his anger. But its a piece of boring beige from a time in the past that is best forgotten.

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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I'm more suprised there is a 'Fastmarina' forum. confused

wildoliver

8,780 posts

216 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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While anyone idolising the marina is a bit concerning it was a real shame, it was a very tidy classic car, smashing it up was bad enough but how pointless was burning it out. Was even a shame about the lada.

I find it mildly funny when they smash up camper vans, or play football with little modern cars, but classics really should be left alone, or alternatively show the nice tidy one then destroy a rotten wreck that won't see the road again.

TehMonkey

387 posts

187 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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At the end of the day if you sell a car on it is no longer yours. Wether they modify it or destroy it is none of your business. And the bloke who sold it knew it was going to Top gear, knew the car was regarded even at the time as been a piece of st, what else does anyone expect?

Ginge R

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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It is a classic! Isn't it? scratchchin

BBC monkey said:
"As I explained, the actual decisions on what we might end up doing with a Morris Marina are still a bit up in the air at the moment, but given the usual stuff we get up to, the cars are usually largely still in one piece by the time we're done."
(apparantly)

Morose Marina chap said:
"OK, your admin has called and asked me to come along and clarify a couple of things. So I will.

First of all, yes, that is a (riveted) repair to the car used in the destruction sequence which was originally a blue car, given a quick spray job to make it look like the nice one. GJR said that the decent car was in the compound and, for a while, so it was, but we haven't spoken in a week or two since when the Marina has found a new home in the hands of an enthusiast who refuses to use any forum because of the rubbish that tends to be talked about these very things!

The scrap car had to have a framework fabricated and fitted into the floor and chassis areas (sills, suspension mounting areas etc.) as it was really quite the rustiest thing we could have found, this made it safe to use on the "race" segment during which the interior trim from the good car was used in close ups.
Prior to the fire, that trim was replaced to the good car and the remains of the scrap one filled with a bed of poly peanuts and flour to give the impression of an interior fire.

No interior trim was destroyed, nor any usable parts. Even the windows were replaced with sugar glass. The car was obtained from a man who had intended to use it for racing of the oval track variety, but as it had no structural integrity, he gave up on that idea and gladly took the BBC's cash! As I said to GJR when asked by him to break cover and write this, the information is all available in the public domain, no secrets, no myths, and this is why the comments posted on the Marina site were so roundly criticised by him, they were purely speculative and had no basis in truth.

So go ahead and take a dislike to Top Gear, but please, Marina fans, acquaint yourselves with the facts of the situation before condemning something armed only with wild inaccuracy and assumptions.".


190E Matt

6,631 posts

214 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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wildoliver said:
Was even a shame about the lada.
It really wasn't...

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Whether the Marina is a ste car or not, or whether someone on that forum is a bit naive ain't the point for me....

It's an old, now rare car thats made it this far and it's a shame to se it wrecked by those bell ends. We have a credit crunch, while they spend tax payers money buying cars and then burning them on film.
It's not the last car that'll ever be wrecked and I'm just waiting for the day when I see a beloved BX get raped on there!! But the only way to look at it is that if you're sitting there seeing right through everything they're doing, be happy in the knowledge that they're just monkeys who've sold out and watered it down for a largely non-car fan based audience purely to get some fame....and you can see right through it all!

Not that anyone here is probably bothered! First car I ever went in was a Marina and I now have a strange urge to build a V8 powered version to go and crash on a track somewhere in, while attempting to stay on the black stuff!

EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Idiots. If he liked the car so much why did he sell it to the Top Gear team?

Ginge R

Original Poster:

4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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The irony is, if that girly pc explanation IS true, it smashes the TG image somewhat.

shout SHAME ON YOU JEREMY, FOR NOT EVEN HAVING THE BALLS TO DESTROY A CLASSIC.. PROPERLY.

308mate

13,757 posts

222 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Load of arse.

Im sentimental about Austin Maestros. Doesnt mean they were good cars and it doesnt mean theres a good reason why they cant be smashed for fun.

Sentiment DOESNT = good.

The Marina, albeit a well kept one, was not an example of good design OR execution. And is therefore open to being smashed.

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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This is a bit embarrassing admitting to be an ex-Marina owner......

But......

Nope.......I can't.....err......nope.

Definately good ridance to it......biggrin

However, I do have a strange soft spot for my old Marina 1.8TC Coupe, as I bought it as a cheap stopgap for about 6-9 months use, and it truely was an awful car, and being an MGB in a bad frock, it went through 2 gearboxes in that time, as IIRC BL only put the 'box out of a 1.3 in it to cope with the torque of the twin carb 1.8....rolleyes

But, it was huge fun in a warped way, as with that torque on skinny 145 section tyres and truely crap suspension I learnt an awful lot about how to control oversteer, understeer and almost any other variation known to man all at a perfectly safe very low speed.....rofl

ajprice

27,478 posts

196 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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OK, with the exception of 'Oliver the Opel', when have TG taken care of a cheap old car? Fair enough he only found out it was TG after it was sold because it was over ebay bidding, and they have a club and a forum etc, but most people would not class a Morris Marina as something to behold and cherish. The cheap car challenge cars are nearly always modified (in a rubbish way), crashed, or wrecked. They've done celebratory pieces for the Rover V8 engine, Ferrari Daytona etc, but a Marina isn't something to behold like those. In a few years they could have similar films about the Mazda wankel engine or a BMW M car, they won't have one about the mk4 Astra.

Frederick

5,695 posts

220 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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roffle....

do you think there'll be people that anal about the ste cars of today in 20 years time? - thinking "Fast307Magazine", or maybe "Cee'dophiles Anonymous"

austin

1,280 posts

203 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Brilliant stuff, I think they really are preying that someone went to all the effort of saving a £700 car by spending what, at least £700?

Saw this on ebay, (strangely only has photos of the engine / boot at the moment???)

3600 miles from new!

My dad used to have a van version, we drove round most of Europe in it.

Strangely a "friend" had a kit car based on a Marina but styled as a Cobra, we never saw anyone in the passenger seat with him and he soon saw the light, (well, he bought an MGF).

Ginge R

Original Poster:

4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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ajprice said:
OK, with the exception of 'Oliver the Opel', when have TG taken care of a cheap old car?
In all fairness to them, they did give that Lada to Lotus.

rigga

8,730 posts

201 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Back when i was 17 circa 1983 i was a trainee mech in a vauxhall dealership,had the job of taking a car down to london and come back in whatever they gave me..... turned out to be a marina in virtually the same hue as the one on TG..... pick up was close to the M1,so swapped the cars checked the marina over and set off,back up the motorway i began to think the car was a little thirsty,as the fuel guage seemed to be dropping rather quickly than in the car on the way down..... found out when i pulled off the M6 at Brum id left the choke pulled all the way out since id started off...... ran a bit rough at slow speeds biggrin

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

224 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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roofer said:
I'm more suprised there is a 'Fastmarina' forum. confused
Isn't that a contradiction in terms, or an Oxymoron? Fast-Marina? The only things they ever did fast were break and rot.

I was disappointed with the limo. I mean, only capable of 99mph, I mean, it must have weighed in at around 3 tonnes going on Russian build qualities of that era (using a T72 Tank gearbox, and the engine from a troop carrier no doubt). Liked the push-button gear selection - very modern for it's time I'm sure.

They never mentioned that Tony Lanfranchi (RIP) won the 1972 British Saloon Car Championship (predecessor to the BTCC) with a Moskvich.....

They didn't show the 412, because of it's BMW heritage (the Ruskies stole the engine design from Beemer!)

End of trivia bks.

norman156

2,050 posts

196 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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marina forum prat said:
Oh Dear!
What a waste.
laugh What a bunch of humourless tossbags! And a 'fast' marina magazine?? I can imagine people becoming enthusiasts of a particular classic, but not for a lump of crap nailed and blue-tacked together by british leyland