a year and a day since my crash....

a year and a day since my crash....

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AngryS3Owner

15,855 posts

230 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Roo. said:
fking hell.

Lucky to survive that.
Agree totally, also nice to see someone apprciating the care they were given.

As you say it sounds VERY lucky your brother was around at the time, from the pic I can't really see how he managed to get you out - but good effort he did!

elle

2,056 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Crikey! yikes

Merry Christmas bud, enjoy

john_p

7,073 posts

251 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Frankly, how the fk did you survive that!?



rah1888

1,547 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Phew! Glad you're mended mate - looked like things could've been a lot worse.

(Note to self: Don't buy small French cars!)

Mikey G

4,735 posts

241 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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That Saxo didnt hold up too well did it! eek Is that the door skin seperate from the door?

Glad to here you are making a good recovery smile

8Ace

2,696 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Jesus. Well done you for staying positive and getting through it.

Do you remember much of the accident? What actually happened?

superlightr

12,860 posts

264 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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changes your view on hooning and pushing the limit a bit doesnt it!

My view is that if you can survive such an crash you have a much better take on life and can use it as a learning experience.

I wrote off my 996tt a few years back just after my twin girls were born, thankfully not injured much. When I got home and to hold my girls to think that I may never had done so again had me in tears. Hope you look at your accident as perhaps a positive expereince, one you hopefully wont have again. Perhaps this one should have killed you - so you are a lucky man and must use it to learn by/move forward and be positive about the experience.



rude-boy

22,227 posts

234 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Oi Stigy, you have a rival!

Glad you are better and have taken the time to thank those who helped put you back together again.

Mr E

21,713 posts

260 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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hugoagogo said:
I think for the first time on this forum we can agree that that WON'T t-cut out
His foot did though, which surely counts for something?

rfn

4,531 posts

208 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I'm amazed you are still around to tell us about that! Glad you're still around and especially pleased you appreciate the hard work put in by people to get you better!

scousegti31

125 posts

190 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I had a bad one 8 years ago, i was in a 309 XS when we hit a tree in bentley heath in solihull at about 70mph, it killed the driver, my best friend, and nearly killed me, It took me about 2 years to complete my recovery.
Had to have various skin grafts, my head hit the b pillar and swelled my brain, my right wrist snapped and peiced the skin i broke every bone in my right hand dislocated my shoulder and hip, broke my right leg, Various pins later and im better and back playing football.

Glad your ok though and have a merry christmas and live your life to the full as i do now

tonyvid

9,869 posts

244 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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AngryS3Owner said:
from the pic I can't really see how he managed to get you out - but good effort he did!
Easy, straight out the front where the engine used to be yikes

OP, well done for having such a positive attitude.

guffhoover

540 posts

187 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Bloody Hell


Looks like you used 8 of your 9 lives.

Have a great xmas

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Reason I sold my VTS was because, although it was a hoot to drive, it felt like it was made of paper.

Went on to buy and write off two Mini Cooper S Works. Either crash in the VTS would have been hospital stays. Not injured in either.

Both my accidents were not caused by speeding but in concentration lapses. One by me one by someone else.

How many times a day when driving do you find your mind wandering? Quite a lot I'd guess, especially if you have a lot of worries etc.

triggersbroom

2,377 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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You were very lucky looking at those pictures. A poignant post to everyone as you are right, even on familiar roads - at this time of the year, your luck could run out!

I cannot believe the number of people up my chuff last night -2 degrees, and driving like tts. Obviously they felt indistructable in the comfort of knowing the country lanes - but that's not enough, is it?

Glad you are here, and have made a good recovery fella - Happy Christmas to you too smile

guru_1071

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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james_tigerwoods said:
Wow - a sobering story. What was the ultimate cause of the accident?

Hope your recovery is complete - Any mental issues as a result of this?
every thing is a little blured (bar the odd really clear memory) from that night.

we had gone out for our tea (to meet my sisters new boyfriend) and i had had a really bad migrane all day, as a result id had a few nurofen and should have gone to bed), we had our tea and drove about 8 miles home, me in my saxo, my brother in his diesel chugger. the entire journey i followed him - it was raining, and as we share a race car we have nothing to prove on the roads.

where i crashed was about a minuites drive from home, its a bad set of bends that are well known locally for crashes, when it rains the road floods at the start of the bend, i think i drove through the flood, and this spat my car onto the other side of the road, at this point i realised that a car was comming, and mindfull of the amount of head ons on this bend i swerved to the left, mainly due the last two bad accidents occouring where people had gone to the right.

this was a fairly subconcious choice, the car jinked, i corrected it, the trouble got worse when it got onto the grass (which is fairly wide), the car span, and i remember thinking 'im ok, im on the grass, i can save this, once im back on the tarmac it will be ok' then, just at the point of joining the road (still sideways and not having slowed on the wet grass) i hit one of those channels that they dig to drain water away, this bounced the car into the air a bit and i then it the bridge. the end of the bridge looks to have hit the car on the point of the rh wheel, then the car has bounced around and bent all the rh side in (you can see the 'tide mark' from the bridge top along the flank.

the remains of the car then slithered along for about another 20 feet or so.

the rh wheel, rh strut, rh inner wing, lh inner wing, bulkhead etc vanished in bits, the engine and box hooked out and bounced down the road.

the ironic thing is that the car i swerved to avoid hit some debries and then the fire brigade wrote it off ripping the bonnet open to disconect the battery!

as for speed, i doubt i was doing more than 70, the police decided 'excessive speed' was the fault, they believe that in the conditions (light rain) i should have slowed to 40mph. i cannot really argue with that.

i know from many years of driving round these bends that in the wet 70 is about the max, in the dry a little more, but it has to be light - in the dark its a no-no.

for a while the police where desperate to prove 'racing on the public highway' or 'mechanical defect' however i was lucky in the the car had a virtually fresh mot (and 12 months tax - rats) and four newish matched decent tyres etc - it was inspected and no faults where found. both my brother and i defended the 'racing' claim, as well as various witness staments from other people who where following or had seen us. i think that i was able to argue that i had followed, at a distance in a 'high powered hot hatch (the polices words) for so many miles that they dropped it.

since my accident there has been two more, one doing nearly what i did, but the guy swerved right, not left, he went through a hedge and dropped 15 feet into a water filled ditch, missing the bridge by inches.

ive no mental problems (more than before!) i always knew i would return to work and walk, even when i was forcing myselft to walk round and round our garden on my crutches.

the best thing to come out of this was that my sister and her boyfriend had {ahem) other things on their minds, and as a result i have a neice and my parents have their first grandchild!!!

Mars

8,735 posts

215 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I'm reading this from my sick-bed (some stomach bug) and I'm grateful you didn't post pics of yourself after the accident. Like everyone else, I'm amazed you're still here to talk about it given the state of the car.

apprentice

1,219 posts

261 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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I suggest the first "Post by a Ghost" on PH?

You are certainly one blessed individual!!!

Has your perspective on life changed at all?

apprentice

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

248 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Excessive speed is just so easy to proove logically. If you crash a car at 5mph then excessive speed was probably the cause, because if there was no speed involved the accident wouldnt have happened.

The cause of your accident was most likly complacancy and distraction. Sounds like you've driven the road on many occasions and if you had been a little more alert to the conditions then you might have avoided the accident. A bad headache or some other worries would be enough to 'drop your game' just enough.

Verdict: Accident. They happen. Good luck with your recovery.

p.s. - thanks, saw a really nice VTS the other day for pennies. Thought to myself - that would be a cheap little hoot. Will stick with the german barge.

guru_1071

Original Poster:

2,768 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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my brother pulled me out the drivers side rear window (well the hole where it was) when i came round i knew i was hurt, i remember looking down at my rh arm and it looked like a bendy snake, at the time i didnt even realise the door was as bad as it was.



heres the engine, i dont think its much use now!