One diesel injector? That'll be £800, sir
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andy-xr said:
Mk3 Mondeo is £250 each, when you consider the TDCi's are 2003 onwards and they're trading around the £2k mark you have to wonder if it's worth it. Same with the dual mass flywheel
I need one for a Mondy TDci.Independent can get reconditioned ones for £160-170ish, and reckons he can get the others serviced for £110 a throw. Car's done 175,000 on the original set.
mybrainhurts said:
Just talking to a diesel independent service bod.
He reckons the newest technology in diesel injectors costs £800 a throw.
These things are controlled by exciting crystals with electrickery, thus allowing them to squirt at a very rapid rate of knots.
They're only used by Mercedes and BMW at the moment, but it appears all new engines will have to go that way in order to meet EU emissions standards.
If this is true, it looks as though the global warming scam is going to price diesels out of existence.
Anybody know more....?
So what would happen if one were to, say, fill one's car with petrol and then drive said car?He reckons the newest technology in diesel injectors costs £800 a throw.
These things are controlled by exciting crystals with electrickery, thus allowing them to squirt at a very rapid rate of knots.
They're only used by Mercedes and BMW at the moment, but it appears all new engines will have to go that way in order to meet EU emissions standards.
If this is true, it looks as though the global warming scam is going to price diesels out of existence.
Anybody know more....?
Sorry, but there is no end in sight for the diesel engine yet and the odd injector going off will not spell the end.
We are well into the Euro 5 engine now and the technology is mind boggling and amazing. There is a long way to go yet before it can be classed as perfect!
We all know that diesel engines are the workhorse engines of businesses and until something better comes along they will remain so.
Injection technologies will become more reliable and cheaper as demand and competition dictate. It will all sort itself out like these things do.
We are well into the Euro 5 engine now and the technology is mind boggling and amazing. There is a long way to go yet before it can be classed as perfect!
We all know that diesel engines are the workhorse engines of businesses and until something better comes along they will remain so.
Injection technologies will become more reliable and cheaper as demand and competition dictate. It will all sort itself out like these things do.
most engines still use solenoid control valves to open and close them, its only the newer high end cars that are using piezos. all of the Bosch piezos are still control valve injectors just with the solenoid replaced with the piezo stack. the new delphi piezo injector get rid of the control valve and open and close the needle directly with the piezo stack but so far they are only on the new merc c250 cdi.
the volume sale price of the injectors to the oems is under £50 per part (most are nearer £30)
the volume sale price of the injectors to the oems is under £50 per part (most are nearer £30)
mybrainhurts said:
cossey said:
the volume sale price of the injectors to the oems is under £50 per part (most are nearer £30)
I'm mad, now....
feritsbum said:
Sorry, but there is no end in sight for the diesel engine yet and the odd injector going off will not spell the end.
We are well into the Euro 5 engine now and the technology is mind boggling and amazing. There is a long way to go yet before it can be classed as perfect!
We all know that diesel engines are the workhorse engines of businesses and until something better comes along they will remain so.
Injection technologies will become more reliable and cheaper as demand and competition dictate. It will all sort itself out like these things do.
There's been plenty of time for them to get cheaper...and they haven't.We are well into the Euro 5 engine now and the technology is mind boggling and amazing. There is a long way to go yet before it can be classed as perfect!
We all know that diesel engines are the workhorse engines of businesses and until something better comes along they will remain so.
Injection technologies will become more reliable and cheaper as demand and competition dictate. It will all sort itself out like these things do.
If we're going to be looking at £3000+ for a set of injectors and £thousands for fuel pumps, etc, residual values are going to vanish...
Will businesses then be so keen to buy...?
I worked out how long it would take to break even after all the added expense of buying and running a diesel. Worked out something like 40k miles for the average car... so it would take me 4 years to even break even, assuming nothing went wrong.
I will be sticking to N/A petrol, thanks.
I will be sticking to N/A petrol, thanks.
all i can say is i dont mind paying whatever for my c4 vts 2.0L hdi because touch wood its been very reliable in my ownership only having had a new turbo fitted and all other turbo related parts bar main engine when the dealer fowled up servicing big time. plus i dont see how this new style of injector can reduce co2 so much. i mean my c4 on a 54 reg only costs £120a year to tax my 1.4 petrol shake booty megane was £140 a year. the main difference with the citroen is the depoloution system in the exhaust. basically like a diesel cat. i this has a far more effect on emissions than injectors. in terms of price yeah i can see them being that price look what cars there fitted too. lol
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