RE: Autofarm Porsche Cayman ‘RS’

RE: Autofarm Porsche Cayman ‘RS’

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jagdpanther

19,633 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I've become somewhat of a Porsche fan in the past couple of years, but I can't help but find the Cayman slightly offensive frown

morgrp

4,128 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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vz-r_dave said:
morgrp said:
Great motor but bin the "ricer rims"

Edited by morgrp on Monday 12th January 16:51
Ricer rims, you mean some of the lightest wheels in the world?

What would be your choice
Style - who give's a st about the weight of wheels - other than geeks with too much time on their hands - not saying they're bad wheels - They look good - but not on a Porsche please

Edited by morgrp on Wednesday 14th January 09:54

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Warick Hunt said:
blueyes said:
blueyes said:
Warick Hunt said:
I am struggling with the point of it? it looks like every other flat beetle on the road...30 odd years old.
Before I explain........Obviously you haven't driven this one, but how would you compare your driving experience of the standard Cayman S to the current 911?
Well?

Don't tell me you haven't driven either!
I dont need to, re-read my comment, I dont care how it drives.
Like the standard car, the conversion is about how it drives, not how it looks, but then you're probably the sort of person that buys books because you like the picture on the cover.

Your numerous anti-Porsche posts display an unfathomable hatred for the marque. Either you were nearly knocked off your pushbike by one or you are a troll.

Miguel

1,030 posts

266 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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To blueeyes and Robin:

Everything on this website--and I do mean EVERYTHING--is judged first and foremost on how it looks. I've seen articles here on pure race cars as well as track specials in which some of the comments will only or mainly criticize their looks. Welcome to PistonHeads: Interior Decorators matter. wink

Miguel

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Miguel said:
To blueeyes
You're right....


.....I don't like the look of the way you spelt my name.



wink

subzero

79 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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I'd be lying if i didnt think the wheels were controversial, in fact thats one of the reasons i fitted them. I have other, more traditional items coming soon though. They are very light though.

This car was built for a purpose, to put no too fine a point on it, i wanted to kick a GT3 RS's arse!! And this will and then some.

Call me a geek or whatever, but we knew what we were doing when we put this concept together. Michael Schumacher may of won 7 world titles, but without Ross and Brawn (the engineers/geeks) that wouldn't of been possible.

Positive and negative, all comments are welcome and i am listening. Thanks to this discussion thread alone we had over 500 page views on our website by half ten this morning!!!

The world needs people to rock the boat a little, just to make it interesting.

If your in any doubt though, and the Cayman is a car you have or thinking of getting. Why not come along for a test drive/ride and give us your feedback. I will be aiming to attend a few Porsche Ace Cafe meets and PCGB track days throughout the year with the car and i welcome your views.

morgrp

4,128 posts

199 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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subzero said:
I'd be lying if i didnt think the wheels were controversial, in fact thats one of the reasons i fitted them. I have other, more traditional items coming soon though. They are very light though.

This car was built for a purpose, to put no too fine a point on it, i wanted to kick a GT3 RS's arse!! And this will and then some.

Call me a geek or whatever, but we knew what we were doing when we put this concept together. Michael Schumacher may of won 7 world titles, but without Ross and Brawn (the engineers/geeks) that wouldn't of been possible.

Positive and negative, all comments are welcome and i am listening. Thanks to this discussion thread alone we had over 500 page views on our website by half ten this morning!!!

The world needs people to rock the boat a little, just to make it interesting.

If your in any doubt though, and the Cayman is a car you have or thinking of getting. Why not come along for a test drive/ride and give us your feedback. I will be aiming to attend a few Porsche Ace Cafe meets and PCGB track days throughout the year with the car and i welcome your views.
So you're basically saying that without those wheels the car would be rubbish? I think not - For Joe average like me I very much doubt I'd notice the difference between those and some other "heavier" wheels. I'm in no doubt they are good wheels, light, brilliant blah blah blah - but come on? a little compromise for the sake of style perhaps?

dom9

8,090 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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morgrp said:
subzero said:
I'd be lying if i didnt think the wheels were controversial, in fact thats one of the reasons i fitted them. I have other, more traditional items coming soon though. They are very light though.

This car was built for a purpose, to put no too fine a point on it, i wanted to kick a GT3 RS's arse!! And this will and then some.

Call me a geek or whatever, but we knew what we were doing when we put this concept together. Michael Schumacher may of won 7 world titles, but without Ross and Brawn (the engineers/geeks) that wouldn't of been possible.

Positive and negative, all comments are welcome and i am listening. Thanks to this discussion thread alone we had over 500 page views on our website by half ten this morning!!!

The world needs people to rock the boat a little, just to make it interesting.

If your in any doubt though, and the Cayman is a car you have or thinking of getting. Why not come along for a test drive/ride and give us your feedback. I will be aiming to attend a few Porsche Ace Cafe meets and PCGB track days throughout the year with the car and i welcome your views.
So you're basically saying that without those wheels the car would be rubbish? I think not - For Joe average like me I very much doubt I'd notice the difference between those and some other "heavier" wheels. I'm in no doubt they are good wheels, light, brilliant blah blah blah - but come on? a little compromise for the sake of style perhaps?
morgrp - I don't think he is saying that at all! He was just putting together the best possible package he could... Not the best styled package! He clearly had access to some very light wheels, which meant the car was dynamically better than on standard/ A.N.Other wheels. The car was not built for looks, it was built to be a weapon of GT3 RS grade proprtions...

Would it have been with an extra 2kg at each corner... Yes! BUT, if you want to build the ultimate, then style must be sacrificed! I for one like those wheels an awful lot, although I prefer the look of BBS E28/68s... I even looked at them for my 996 when they were first released for the Porsche, although it has taken me 'til now to admit that on this thread!

There are some people who would pay a lot of money for the ultimate car, regardless of beauty, there are some people who would pay for beauty regardless of performance. Each to their own. I, for one, think it looks great as it is and am salivating at the thought of it!

I am hoping that Autofarm will work some magic on my 996 this year (So, robin, tell Mikey to hurry up with that quote wink ) and I wouldn't mind those wheels at all... Although, I am waiting for BBS to respond to my email - LOL!

Robin - One more question, the engine you have installed here is your 3.7 plus cams package and puts out around 100bhp/l... The cheaper package is without the cams and that is the one I have half an eye on. Have you guys dyno'd that in a 996 yet? I am going to go out on a limb and guess that the standard 996 3.4 puts out 300bhp (88bhp/l) so the 3.7 will put out approximately 335bhp?

Basically, the increase in capacity plus a few more for the unshrouding of the inlet valves... Do you do any headwork when you build them up?

Hopefully I will head up to see you in the next few weeks.

Cheers,

Dom

Lax Power

204 posts

256 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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"A boot of second gear throttle - particularly when using the ‘harder’ engine map in ‘Sport’ - knocks the tail out quicker than if Eddie Murphy’s Donkey character in Shrek had just left his hoof print in the rear wing."



A dab of oppo and I was away. Thanks Mr Queef.

neon_fox

342 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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morgrp said:
For Joe average like me I very much doubt I'd notice the difference between those and some other "heavier" wheels. I'm in no doubt they are good wheels, light, brilliant blah blah blah - but come on? a little compromise for the sake of style perhaps?
I for one appreciate the huge difference savings in unsprung weight makes to a performance car's handling, you should be able to do a lot of improvement to primary and secondary ride characteristics with a saving of 2kg per corner, which is enormous.

As the owner posted: this is an engineering exercise, not a stylistic one. I'd imagine that F1 teams don't give a flying feck what their wheels look like as long as they fulfil, or better exceed their performance criteria.

As far as BBS wheels go, I thought BBS made an announcement last year that they were no longer selling to the after-market and were moving to being solely an OEM supplier?

CrisW

522 posts

194 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Well I like it. Not a big Caymen fan but this seems to be letting it off the lease.

Personally I'd choice light wheels over heavy ones any day of the week. As long as I didn't find them offensive and those I certainly don't. Fitting heavier wheels smacks to me of Saxo 'styling'.

metropolis

2 posts

192 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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subzero said:
I'd be lying if i didnt think the wheels were controversial, in fact thats one of the reasons i fitted them. I have other, more traditional items coming soon though. They are very light though.

This car was built for a purpose, to put no too fine a point on it, i wanted to kick a GT3 RS's arse!! And this will and then some.

Call me a geek or whatever, but we knew what we were doing when we put this concept together. Michael Schumacher may of won 7 world titles, but without Ross and Brawn (the engineers/geeks) that wouldn't of been possible.

Positive and negative, all comments are welcome and i am listening. Thanks to this discussion thread alone we had over 500 page views on our website by half ten this morning!!!

The world needs people to rock the boat a little, just to make it interesting.

If your in any doubt though, and the Cayman is a car you have or thinking of getting. Why not come along for a test drive/ride and give us your feedback. I will be aiming to attend a few Porsche Ace Cafe meets and PCGB track days throughout the year with the car and i welcome your views.
SubZero the wheels look awesome, some porsche people are stuck in a rut with regardst to style, forunately you are not one of them. Yes BBS LMs look good but they have been done to death and no other wheel that BBS make looks any good plus they all weigh a stack!
Rays have been making wheels for porsche for some time now and there are many cars including full race cars using this wheel including porsche cup teams.
For all the people that think the TE37 Does not suit porsche have a look at the picture below.

or this

or the 19" version

and this is the Japanese top secret porsche from the Tokyo auto salon car show


Rays are lighter, stronger and stiffer then the vast majority of other wheels including BBS.
BBS is the candle to Rays light bulb and if candles were any good the light bulb would never have been invented.

Keep up the good work

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

262 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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metropolis said:
I have to admit... I don't think the TE37's suit the 911's above... but that gunmetal Cayman... cloud9

morgrp

4,128 posts

199 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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anonymous said:
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Thank you - Someone finally understands my point

crashS2K

105 posts

255 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Robin - what make are the manifold and sport cats (200 cell)?

I assume they aren't Miltek as they had some reported cases of the cat disintegrating and as far as I am aware have not resolved the issue yet.

fastgerman.com

1,915 posts

196 months

Friday 16th January 2009
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Bloody nice! Although if it were my money, i'd just do the engine, lsd and fit some KW's. Standard wheels are nice enough and the 8 kg savings in the wheels wouldn't bother me.

However in the current market a 996 GT3 is cheaper than a Cayman S and I'd rather have one of those than a fully autofarm'd Cayman RS.

fluffyducky

137 posts

198 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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anonymous said:
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However you seem to be missing the point of the car surely? Its an exercise in functionality rather than cosmetics, therefore how the wheels compliment the lines means nowt. As a functional tool the car delivers, the wheels are a matter of opinion.

However, I lurve them! biggrin

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Monday 19th January 2009
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Looks like a very impressive bit of kit! thumbup
I quite like the look of those Volk gold rims, but I'd quite like to see gunmetal/black OZ super turismo's on it smile

Nurburgsingh

5,122 posts

239 months

Tuesday 20th January 2009
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They do those wheels for 968's as well... I have a set on order... will post pics when i get a chance to see them fitted to the garages show car.

911stu

643 posts

214 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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All of you that are bhing about the wheels have surely missed the point. Perhaps you lot would be better off sticking with your tiptronic, 4 wheel drive, cabrio 911's and your sun beds!!!