RE: PH Heroes: Aston Martin V8 Vantage

RE: PH Heroes: Aston Martin V8 Vantage

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V8LM

5,174 posts

210 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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Le Man said:
Sciroccology said:
Personally though, I'd plump for a fantastic car.
The Virage and Vantage were not the leap forward that Aston Martin hoped and as a piece of evolution, represent kissing a Prince and turning it into a frog.
shootarguemoanrantinggrumpy

Each to their own. wavey

v8vantage

187 posts

235 months

Friday 23rd January 2009
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The cars are dinosaurs!


If you want the complete story have a look here: http://v8vantage.com/AMQ.pdf and http://v8vantage.com/AMQ2.pdf

Roo
www.v8vantage.com

STASH1

192 posts

192 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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One of the all time greats and its British enough said

paul0843

1,915 posts

208 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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BOR said:
Whitney-Paine said:
Here you go. Motoring porn of a class A variety:



Enjoy!

Stuart
Whoa ! <<grips chair>> I'm regressing ! I'm 21 again !

Thanks, Stuart.
remember it....one of the first car mags i ever bought...i would have been 21

mrq

4 posts

201 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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I had the chance to acquire one of these beasts one year ago. I must say, the article is a good summary of what you feel behind the wheel: it's very impressive to drive. The sound is fabulous, the engine is so strong (torque), but it remains very comfortable.

Some pics (first one taken last year at Le Mans Classic]:


















After Koen's red Xpack , above on this thread, it seems that there are some good examples here in Belgium






Double R

872 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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"Ah, isn't there a clarkson vid where he has one up against a selection of other supercars, and it screams off up the road??!? (though I think the Superlight R500 wins)"

Yes there is! It is on "Hot Metal" where he races the DB 9 against an automatic 90s Vantage and my 80s Vantage Volante

It was a great day indeed!

The "problems" with V8s are related only to one thing. Not driving them... they need to be enjoyed.

Lots of problems are the result of a car sitting in a garage for many years. But this is common to ALL classic cars.

I wanted a normal 80s Vantage but the Volante Vantage is so much better for me especially during our trips in France and Italy... with the hood down you have vantage power AND "al fresco" driving

On Classic Cars Jan 2005 there is a nice piece on my car (I then changed the plate!) and in 5 years of ownership I am totally happy with the car. You have a lot of power under the bonnet but you can enjoy a lazy 2000 rpms in 5th gear... it is not a car that pushes you to be a hooligan on the road



BOR

4,703 posts

256 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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OK. Dumb question from me: Massive engine, massive power and torque, massive weight. So how come the Vantage trademark is the blanking plate in the grille ? The cooling air to the rad looks extremely limited, do any of you owners ever experience overheating problems ?

Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

240 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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BOR said:
OK. Dumb question from me: Massive engine, massive power and torque, massive weight. So how come the Vantage trademark is the blanking plate in the grille ? The cooling air to the rad looks extremely limited, do any of you owners ever experience overheating problems ?
I can't talk about the Aston Per se, but on an X300 Jag, I found out through collegue who showed me all these CFD plots that most of the cooling air enters the engine bay under the bumper/front apron....

LuS1fer

41,136 posts

246 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Corvettes and camaros run 5.7 litre V8s and have a bottom-feed intake from under the car.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 25th January 2009
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Just noticed this review on the front page, can't believe I missed itbounce

Without doubt, my all time favourite carbiggrin

williamp

19,262 posts

274 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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BOR said:
OK. Dumb question from me: Massive engine, massive power and torque, massive weight. So how come the Vantage trademark is the blanking plate in the grille ? The cooling air to the rad looks extremely limited, do any of you owners ever experience overheating problems ?
The engines on the Normal V8's wwere found to run slughtly cool anyhow, so the blanking plate increased water temp by 10 degrees. You're right about the colling air: taken in from under the front bumper.

Oh, and often V8 vantage specified in hot countries did not have this blanking plate for the extra cooling, so its not necessarially a tell-tale "Vantage" thing.

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

231 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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V8LM said:
Le Man said:
Sciroccology said:
Personally though, I'd plump for a fantastic car.
The Virage and Vantage were not the leap forward that Aston Martin hoped and as a piece of evolution, represent kissing a Prince and turning it into a frog.
shootarguemoanrantinggrumpy

Each to their own. wavey
As you say, each to their own. But you're right and he's wrong wink

v580nut

1 posts

184 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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Replying to Dr G's comment about 1:18 model. I am a self confessed v580 nut and as I have a family and drive a lovely (not) Touran an 80's vantage is a dream. Although I will get one eventually. So to pacify my dream I collect model vantages and have never got my hands on a 1:18 scale only 1:43...
so anyone have any ideas wher I could get one ?

By the way Bramleys were origonally asking 120k for the featured black 89 vantage - no credit crunch there then - and since this article was written I have noticed its no longer on their site !

Turbotabby

22 posts

184 months

Monday 26th January 2009
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paul0843 said:
BOR said:
Whitney-Paine said:
Here you go. Motoring porn of a class A variety:



Enjoy!

Stuart
Whoa ! <<grips chair>> I'm regressing ! I'm 21 again !

Thanks, Stuart.
remember it....one of the first car mags i ever bought...i would have been 21
Damm, this takes me back to when CAR magazine was a must buy, damm you all to hell Barlow et al!

Harry Flashman

19,369 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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The people my parents bought their house from in 1986 left one of these in the garage. Just left it - we opened the garage when moving in (I was just a child) and there it was in all its jade green with cream leather glory.

They didn't even want it back. (To be fair, they left the country in a hurry, leaving numerous other things, including their manservant!!).

My father would pick me up from school in it on Saturday afternoons after a week at boarding school. You could hear the V9 from half a mile away.

I have never forgiven my parents for selling that car.

BOR

4,703 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Thanks, guys.

How's America treating you, MR ?

BOR

4,703 posts

256 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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Whitney-Paine said:
Here you go. Motoring porn of a class A variety:



Enjoy!

Stuart
One more question re Finding Out, which car won the test ? I have a feeling it was the 512BB.

Rum Runner

2,338 posts

218 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Bloody love, it proper Aston

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Harry Flashman said:
The people my parents bought their house from in 1986 left one of these in the garage. Just left it - we opened the garage when moving in (I was just a child) and there it was in all its jade green with cream leather glory.

They didn't even want it back. (To be fair, they left the country in a hurry, leaving numerous other things, including their manservant!!).

My father would pick me up from school in it on Saturday afternoons after a week at boarding school. You could hear the V9 from half a mile away.

I have never forgiven my parents for selling that car.
V9? Cool!

BountyHunter

1,050 posts

195 months

Thursday 29th January 2009
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Marquis_Rex said:
article said:
To overcome this Aston was forced to create bigger valves and lower-lift camshafts, but then the engineers realised that these changes could be applied to the standard V8 to create even more power. Throw in 481DA carburettors and suddenly the company had a 5.3-litre V8 producing almost 380bhp, an incredible figure for the 1970s.
A lower lift cam will NOT give you more torque neither will it gives you more power.
If this is true, there would be another reason for going lower on the lift, such as because they had to go ower on duration also for reasons of torque or some other constraint.
Mechanical fuel injection like the old Astons had is superior to carbs and I heard the reason they abandonned it was because they never paid Bosch the bills in time.
yeah he got it wrong in the article (surprise surprise)

basically they used the big valve head and replaced the low lift cams with the high lift versions from the older injected V8, added in the weber 48's and some other trickery and et voila 380 bhp odd.

Edited by BountyHunter on Thursday 29th January 20:48