Falken FK 452 Tyres. Good buy?
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There's a ph thread on here about tyres. But, yes, they're a good buy. Got a mate who put them on a cerbera without any concerns.
And after a quick look, here it is:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
And after a quick look, here it is:
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Edited by wadgebeast on Sunday 25th January 12:54
Great tyres, not just for the money, they are a great tyre full stop the price is just a bonus! I put them on my Audi A8 and my TVR have no complaints and if anything they were better than the bridgestones & michelins I had on before. A colleague, also with an A8 recommended them, seems anyone that tries them recommends them I haven't heard a bad comment about them.
Puddenchucker said:
retrorider said:
another quality goodyear/dunlop group tyre...
I thought Falken were part of the Japanese company Sumitomo Rubber, and just manufactured Dunlop & Goodyear branded tyres under licence? (I stand to be corrected on this)In an extension of Goodyear's global ``good-better-best'' approach, the company's European division will sell two ``families'' of consumer tires into the continent's market.
Brand awareness is not the only issue, however. The level of brand awareness, and the prestige associated with each of the brands in the division's portfolio varies strongly with country and region, Valensi said. Because of this, Goodyear has had to revise its strategy for all its consumer-oriented brands within the European region.
Goodyear presaged the changes recently, announcing the phase-out of eight brand names-Delta, Diplomat, Durant, India, Ohtsu, Seal, Trident and Voyager-to allow the organization to concentrate on its key names.
On the Goodyear side, the top brand (``best'') is Goodyear, supported by Kelly (``better'') and Sava (``good''). Fulda remains in the Goodyear family, but has a peculiar niche below Goodyear and above Kelly.
The other family has a slightly sportier image using Dunlop as the top brand, supported by Falken.Mirroring the situation with Fulda, the Pneumant brand fits in a niche somewhere between Dunlop and Falken.
Fulda and Pneumant don't fit easily into this good-better-best structure, because their brand strength varies, especially with geography, Valensi said. In Germany, a Fulda tire can take its place as original equipment on a Mercedes or BMW, but elsewhere in Europe, consumers have less respect for the brand.
``With Fulda and Pneumant, they are both a bit special,'' Valensi said. ``Fulda is too strong in Germany to be only a second brand, so we are marketing these two with a separate identity, so it is about brand development, brand management.''
Valensi said the continued strength of the Fulda name in Germany, 39 years after Goodyear acquired the brand, proves Goodyear can manage different brands successfully. ``We can protect brand names. We do understand local strengths, and to anyone who does not believe that, I say `Look at Fulda,''' he said.
Grunewald and his team must ensure that the two families compete effectively in the market, but not too hard that they fight against each other, Valensi said.
Jaguar steve said:
Thanks for all so far - any idea where they fit in the comfort and ride quality vs performance and handling overal scheme of things?
Sport or Touring tyre? Can't be good at both shirley?
High performance. Replaced BS RE050A's on my car. Tiny bit less overall grip right on the limit but more predictable, better ride and quieter. So far they look like they will be better wearing too. Falken touring tyre is the 912 IIRC.Sport or Touring tyre? Can't be good at both shirley?
retrorider said:
Puddenchucker said:
retrorider said:
another quality goodyear/dunlop group tyre...
I thought Falken were part of the Japanese company Sumitomo Rubber, and just manufactured Dunlop & Goodyear branded tyres under licence? (I stand to be corrected on this)In an extension of Goodyear's global ``good-better-best'' approach, the company's European division will sell two ``families'' of consumer tires into the continent's market.
Brand awareness is not the only issue, however. The level of brand awareness, and the prestige associated with each of the brands in the division's portfolio varies strongly with country and region, Valensi said. Because of this, Goodyear has had to revise its strategy for all its consumer-oriented brands within the European region.
Goodyear presaged the changes recently, announcing the phase-out of eight brand names-Delta, Diplomat, Durant, India, Ohtsu, Seal, Trident and Voyager-to allow the organization to concentrate on its key names.
On the Goodyear side, the top brand (``best'') is Goodyear, supported by Kelly (``better'') and Sava (``good''). Fulda remains in the Goodyear family, but has a peculiar niche below Goodyear and above Kelly.
The other family has a slightly sportier image using Dunlop as the top brand, supported by Falken.Mirroring the situation with Fulda, the Pneumant brand fits in a niche somewhere between Dunlop and Falken.
Fulda and Pneumant don't fit easily into this good-better-best structure, because their brand strength varies, especially with geography, Valensi said. In Germany, a Fulda tire can take its place as original equipment on a Mercedes or BMW, but elsewhere in Europe, consumers have less respect for the brand.
``With Fulda and Pneumant, they are both a bit special,'' Valensi said. ``Fulda is too strong in Germany to be only a second brand, so we are marketing these two with a separate identity, so it is about brand development, brand management.''
Valensi said the continued strength of the Fulda name in Germany, 39 years after Goodyear acquired the brand, proves Goodyear can manage different brands successfully. ``We can protect brand names. We do understand local strengths, and to anyone who does not believe that, I say `Look at Fulda,''' he said.
Grunewald and his team must ensure that the two families compete effectively in the market, but not too hard that they fight against each other, Valensi said.
Sumimito Rubber
1984 Acquired six tire plants in U.K., Germany and France as well as Dunlop Tyre Technical Devision in U.K.
1986 Acquired Dunlop Tire Corporation in U.S.A.
1999 Formed alliance in tire business with The Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company in U.S.A.
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/productdatabase/dunl...
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/productdatabase/falk...
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/productdatabase/good...
Puddenchucker said:
retrorider said:
Puddenchucker said:
retrorider said:
another quality goodyear/dunlop group tyre...
I thought Falken were part of the Japanese company Sumitomo Rubber, and just manufactured Dunlop & Goodyear branded tyres under licence? (I stand to be corrected on this)In an extension of Goodyear's global ``good-better-best'' approach, the company's European division will sell two ``families'' of consumer tires into the continent's market.
Brand awareness is not the only issue, however. The level of brand awareness, and the prestige associated with each of the brands in the division's portfolio varies strongly with country and region, Valensi said. Because of this, Goodyear has had to revise its strategy for all its consumer-oriented brands within the European region.
Goodyear presaged the changes recently, announcing the phase-out of eight brand names-Delta, Diplomat, Durant, India, Ohtsu, Seal, Trident and Voyager-to allow the organization to concentrate on its key names.
On the Goodyear side, the top brand (``best'') is Goodyear, supported by Kelly (``better'') and Sava (``good''). Fulda remains in the Goodyear family, but has a peculiar niche below Goodyear and above Kelly.
The other family has a slightly sportier image using Dunlop as the top brand, supported by Falken.Mirroring the situation with Fulda, the Pneumant brand fits in a niche somewhere between Dunlop and Falken.
Fulda and Pneumant don't fit easily into this good-better-best structure, because their brand strength varies, especially with geography, Valensi said. In Germany, a Fulda tire can take its place as original equipment on a Mercedes or BMW, but elsewhere in Europe, consumers have less respect for the brand.
``With Fulda and Pneumant, they are both a bit special,'' Valensi said. ``Fulda is too strong in Germany to be only a second brand, so we are marketing these two with a separate identity, so it is about brand development, brand management.''
Valensi said the continued strength of the Fulda name in Germany, 39 years after Goodyear acquired the brand, proves Goodyear can manage different brands successfully. ``We can protect brand names. We do understand local strengths, and to anyone who does not believe that, I say `Look at Fulda,''' he said.
Grunewald and his team must ensure that the two families compete effectively in the market, but not too hard that they fight against each other, Valensi said.
Sumimito Rubber
1984 Acquired six tire plants in U.K., Germany and France as well as Dunlop Tyre Technical Devision in U.K.
1986 Acquired Dunlop Tire Corporation in U.S.A.
1999 Formed alliance in tire business with The Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company in U.S.A.
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/productdatabase/dunl...
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/productdatabase/falk...
http://www.tyres-online.co.uk/productdatabase/good...
Jaguar steve said:
Will need some tyres for the XJ pretty soon.
Bit of Googling came up with these at almost half the price of the OE Pirellis and excellent customer ratings and reviews too. Almost too good to be true in fact. Anybody got them and what do you think?
Cheers chaps
Pirellis (as recommended by Jaguar) were and absolute pile of poo on my XJR !Bit of Googling came up with these at almost half the price of the OE Pirellis and excellent customer ratings and reviews too. Almost too good to be true in fact. Anybody got them and what do you think?
Cheers chaps
CSi was fitted with Eagle F1s (great tyre) but Goodyear stopped making them (many thanks Goodyear
).Tried Falken 452s - won't use any other tyre now until some one convinces me that another manufacturer makes a better tyre for the money!
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