17 Year Old With A E90 M3
Discussion
Si 330 said:
A few weeks ago while flick channels I caught the end of MTV cribs just as the chap was getting to his garage.
His garage consisted of
White blinged up Hummer
White MURCIELAGO
White continental GT
White CLS 55 amg
When he got to the CLS 55 he said this was bought for his 18 year old daughter to LEARN to drive in.
His reason was Hummer too big, Lambo too fast, Bentley too expensive.
So the Merc is just the perfect compromise.
Batista the wrestler iirc.His garage consisted of
White blinged up Hummer
White MURCIELAGO
White continental GT
White CLS 55 amg
When he got to the CLS 55 he said this was bought for his 18 year old daughter to LEARN to drive in.
His reason was Hummer too big, Lambo too fast, Bentley too expensive.
So the Merc is just the perfect compromise.
Martin A said:
Hi All
14 pages and no one has yet suggested that he should have some lessons with a professional instructor that knows their stuff. There is a substitute for experience and that is learning from someone who knows the subject. Not just about dynamics but safe high speed road driving.
I find it crazy that everyone is all for track driver training but unwilling on the whole (even those who are interested in 'advanced' driving) to part with the cost of a couple of decent tyres in order to add shed loads of skill and knowledge to their current ability.
Quite often I've been out with a learner that can leave an average driver in a powerful car behind when they reach the twisty bits. Favourite was following a 911 in a Smart because we were smooth and they didn't have a clue.
If a young driver wants to learn how to drive like a god it's likely to cost a bit more than normal lessons. However if the parents of the 16 year old are as smart with their money as they are likely to have been to afford an M3 in the first place they'll probably have sorted out excellent training.
Best regards
Martin A
I sort of said that, albeit that's just what I would do. I learnt quite a bit from my instructor about the limits of cars (used to race cars and bikes).14 pages and no one has yet suggested that he should have some lessons with a professional instructor that knows their stuff. There is a substitute for experience and that is learning from someone who knows the subject. Not just about dynamics but safe high speed road driving.
I find it crazy that everyone is all for track driver training but unwilling on the whole (even those who are interested in 'advanced' driving) to part with the cost of a couple of decent tyres in order to add shed loads of skill and knowledge to their current ability.
Quite often I've been out with a learner that can leave an average driver in a powerful car behind when they reach the twisty bits. Favourite was following a 911 in a Smart because we were smooth and they didn't have a clue.
If a young driver wants to learn how to drive like a god it's likely to cost a bit more than normal lessons. However if the parents of the 16 year old are as smart with their money as they are likely to have been to afford an M3 in the first place they'll probably have sorted out excellent training.
Best regards
Martin A
Speaking of controlling things when they go wrong, the best lesson I ever had was when we had that massive snow and ice thing (well, big for the uk anyway!). Just those 2 hours REALLY made me appreciate how s
t scary it can be when a rear end breaks loose, or when driving on a surface with no grip. I came out of that lesson with a completely changed outlook on driving, and a new respect for how dangerous a motor vehicle could be.just my 2p.
It’s irresponsible to buy a child a car of that performance. There are plenty of alternatives; there is no need for a M3 at 16. Even the 335 he was talking of would be too powerful for his experience, let along his very young age.
Perhaps his father is not aware of the performance on offer and has been cornered buy the salesmen’s talk regarding active safety features. Either way, the Parents are fools of the highest order.
Perhaps his father is not aware of the performance on offer and has been cornered buy the salesmen’s talk regarding active safety features. Either way, the Parents are fools of the highest order.
chuggabugga70 said:
Speaking of controlling things when they go wrong, the best lesson I ever had was when we had that massive snow and ice thing (well, big for the uk anyway!). Just those 2 hours REALLY made me appreciate how st scary it can be when a rear end breaks loose, or when driving on a surface with no grip. I came out of that lesson with a completely changed outlook on driving, and a new respect for how dangerous a motor vehicle could be.
Quite. If you've never done a skid-pan training (half-) day then have a go at one, they're not that expensive and could save your life. I think it would be a great initiative to make some training like this a compulsory part of getting a licence. It would give learners a fighting chance of recovering a skid and maybe treat a car with due respect, knowing what it feels like when you become a passenger at the wheel...?t scary it can be when a rear end breaks loose, or when driving on a surface with no grip. I came out of that lesson with a completely changed outlook on driving, and a new respect for how dangerous a motor vehicle could be.Lucky kid.
I dont think there is anything overly wrong with it, as long as the kid understands that they need to respect the car and learn to stay within their limits they will be ok. If they abuse it or push beyond their limits then they will be in trouble.
I have a friend in America and his sons have a Acura Integra type R, Mazda RX7 and a Mustang V8 all of which are fairly tuned at ages 16, 17 and 19 and last time i checked they are all in one piece. I believe a lot of this to be down to how they have been brought up to respect their toys.
I dont think there is anything overly wrong with it, as long as the kid understands that they need to respect the car and learn to stay within their limits they will be ok. If they abuse it or push beyond their limits then they will be in trouble.
I have a friend in America and his sons have a Acura Integra type R, Mazda RX7 and a Mustang V8 all of which are fairly tuned at ages 16, 17 and 19 and last time i checked they are all in one piece. I believe a lot of this to be down to how they have been brought up to respect their toys.
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