yellow stuff brake pads

[nicke999]

can anyone provide me with where i can get hold of these. thanks

[matmoxon]

Try here http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/ I have a set on my Focus ST and I can say they are pretty good.

Matt

[nicke999]

thanks for the reply, but i have tried this site and seems not allow me to select yellow stuff pads only the normal ones?? odd

[UncappedTag]

matmoxon said:

Try here http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/ I have a set on my Focus ST and I can say they are pretty good.

Matt

Is that on the current ST or 170? Would you say they are a lot better than the standard pads? Not that I find the bite etc poor on mine, but anything that is better in my book is worth a look when replacements are due.

How much?

[parapaul]

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

[nicke999]

i have them fitted to my car already and they are brilliant pads for every day and track use, just need to by pass garage and acquire some more

[matmoxon]

UncappedTag said:

matmoxon said:

Try here http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/ I have a set on my Focus ST and I can say they are pretty good.

Matt

Is that on the current ST or 170? Would you say they are a lot better than the standard pads? Not that I find the bite etc poor on mine, but anything that is better in my book is worth a look when replacements are due.

How much?

That’s on the current ST, they cost ~£169 for the front and rear pads. They felt a bit strange during the wear in period (I have over 1000 miles on them now) but once worn in they are excellent pads. I haven't had chance to really lean on them properly yet so I don't know how much they resist fade compared to the standard ones. They do offer good stopping power (I did a quick test emergency stop last week).

Matt

[dr.pepper]

parapaul said:

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

I always though it was the other way around?

The Redstuffs need warming up and and do wear fairly quickly. The Yellowstuff are pretty good pads for Road/Track.

[The Moose]

how do they compare to green stuff??

[Patrick1964]

Different cars are assigned different compounds in EBC's listings, largely dependent on car weight & power, so an upgraded fast road pad for, say, a Corsa might be a Greenstuff pad, whereas as an M5 (for example) would melt Greenstuff so would be listed as needing a red or yellow compound. Try Demon Tweeks, they have loads of stock.

[dr.pepper]

The Moose said:

how do they compare to green stuff??

Green stuff, from my personal experience, are not really worth buying for hard use. I don't know if it's just marque specific, but the Greens leave a lot of Brakedust and wear quickly (probably due to harder use). Their performance is slightly better than standard, with better bite.

If you just want to replace the OEM with something better quality then, have a look at some of the Mintex stuff.

[bigfatnick]

parapaul said:

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

i've got them. I bought them for trackdaying, because bmw brakes are appaling once up to tempterature! So i figured, go for the raciest, have to be warm, mental pads. My mate had some on his cerbera, and said they had to be hot before working properley.

Anyways, i fitted them , bedded them in carefully, and then let them have some abuse!
Conclusion, they work FINE when cold. They do work better with a bit of heat in them. They still smoke up a treat when they get hot and i still need to get some better fluid in there. But i wouldnt say theyre a lot better than bmw standard pads.

But for a daily car, theyre fine, they dont need to be hot to drive normally!

[hot metal]

parapaul said:

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

No it doesn`t,fine for road use but why bother, may wear the discs faster though.

[stifler]

bigfatnick said:

parapaul said:

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

i've got them. I bought them for trackdaying, because bmw brakes are appaling once up to tempterature! So i figured, go for the raciest, have to be warm, mental pads. My mate had some on his cerbera, and said they had to be hot before working properley.

Anyways, i fitted them , bedded them in carefully, and then let them have some abuse!
Conclusion, they work FINE when cold. They do work better with a bit of heat in them. They still smoke up a treat when they get hot and i still need to get some better fluid in there. But i wouldnt say theyre a lot better than bmw standard pads.

But for a daily car, theyre fine, they dont need to be hot to drive normally!

Might I throw in a curve ball here. Try the equivalent Pagid pad. we tested these back to back before deciding on which to use at the nurburgring 24hr race. Ebc pads tended to eat the discs as well as we would have to plan on a pad change in the race. Pagid pads had better feel, better initial bite, better overall stopping power (G sensor verified on the data logger), they would last the whole distance and the discs lasted about twice as long. There is a pretty strict bedding in procedure, but if this is followed they will do you proud.

The car we were testing on was a BMW E36 M3 GTR.

I can't recommend them highly enough.

[nicke999]

stifler said:

bigfatnick said:

parapaul said:

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

i've got them. I bought them for trackdaying, because bmw brakes are appaling once up to tempterature! So i figured, go for the raciest, have to be warm, mental pads. My mate had some on his cerbera, and said they had to be hot before working properley.

Anyways, i fitted them , bedded them in carefully, and then let them have some abuse!
Conclusion, they work FINE when cold. They do work better with a bit of heat in them. They still smoke up a treat when they get hot and i still need to get some better fluid in there. But i wouldnt say theyre a lot better than bmw standard pads.

But for a daily car, theyre fine, they dont need to be hot to drive normally!

Might I throw in a curve ball here. Try the equivalent Pagid pad. we tested these back to back before deciding on which to use at the nurburgring 24hr race. Ebc pads tended to eat the discs as well as we would have to plan on a pad change in the race. Pagid pads had better feel, better initial bite, better overall stopping power (G sensor verified on the data logger), they would last the whole distance and the discs lasted about twice as long. There is a pretty strict bedding in procedure, but if this is followed they will do you proud.

The car we were testing on was a BMW E36 M3 GTR.

I can't recommend them highly enough.

hey guys, thanks for your thoughts and feedback, it has given me a few options. cheers

[TOENHEEL]

parapaul said:

IIRC Yellow Stuff are track pads - the compound is too hard for road use, it takes too long to warm up.

Red Stuff no use for you?

I have them on my exige, they dont take very long to warm up and then bite nicely great pads.

[Busa_Rush]

I wouldn't put EBC on a bicycle let alone a car. Pagid might cost more but are in a different league. Ferrodo also do some useful pads and a bit cheaper than Pagid.

[andy_s]

EBC had a bit of bad press about the yellows a while back but changed the compound - someone from the company picked up the various comments and explained that the pads were now better than before and sent out a few free samples to half a dozen or so PHers for a no strings free trial - all the reports back were very positive. I'll be trying them next time and see how they fair compared to the mintex 1144s.

[nicke999]

just been doing a little phoning around, and Pagid dont appear to make pads that fit, and yellow stuff have the pads at Demon Tweeks, v helpful people

thanks again Nick

[TOENHEEL]

Busa_Rush said:

I wouldn't put EBC on a bicycle let alone a car. Pagid might cost more but are in a different league. Ferrodo also do some useful pads and a bit cheaper than Pagid.

A lot of people would disagree with you there, after changing the compound the majority say they are a great pad. Im inclined to agree, once warmed up they perform very very well.