Full car respray..

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Utterly Clueless

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Sunday 12th April 2009
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Darkslider said:
sniff diesel said:
dave_s13 said:
Utterly Clueless said:
Ok guys, this may seem a little wierd too you all, but i listened and stopped thinking about it 5-6 replies ago, no need to keep harping on at me as im now looking at new motors of which my golf will cover the vast majority of the costs.

Thanks though guys

Thom
Bear in mind you will only get about 2p trade in value for your golf against something sub £1500 at a dealer.

The only real way to get anything like decent money for it will be by selling privately.
Erm didn't he try selling a few months ago with no succes? I took the add down when i had an offer of a straight swap for an MR2 so it wasnt 'unsuccesful'. In the end i declined the offer due to condition.
Yeah, 'cos he wanted about five times what it was worth. I wanted 1k, the car IS worth more than £200 regaurdless of what you think.. 1k seemed reasonable since (according to various websites) it was worth £1600 dealership sale, £1400 average cond. private sale and £1100 part ex

TomJS

973 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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I think the OP is a muppet. Utterly clueless is the perfect name for him.

If I remember correctly, he allowed his parents to spend a fortune (of his money) on a Golf. He then disliked the said Golf, and was going to chop it in, at which point the parents prevented him doing so for unknown reasons. Since then he has posted multiple times with bright ideas how to bling his golf, including if I remember correctly new alloys, lowering and now a paintjob.

Utterly Clueless, please do nothing more with the said Golf. Save for a decent car & allow NCB to build up. Avoid any bonkers schemes to 'improve' a burgundy 10+ year old Golf.

Utterly Clueless

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193 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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TomJS said:
I think the OP is a muppet. Utterly clueless is the perfect name for him.

If I remember correctly, he allowed his parents to spend a fortune (of his money) on a Golf. He then disliked the said Golf, and was going to chop it in, at which point the parents prevented him doing so for unknown reasons. Since then he has posted multiple times with bright ideas how to bling his golf, including if I remember correctly new alloys, lowering and now a paintjob.

Utterly Clueless, please do nothing more with the said Golf. Save for a decent car & allow NCB to build up. Avoid any bonkers schemes to 'improve' a burgundy 10+ year old Golf.
So, ive said im not going to bother with the paint and yet you still feel the need to tell me not to do anything to the paint...

reading the thread helps as you will see that im going to chop it in for a BMW 320 or 323 in the next couple of months provided i can persuade the parents to either 1, lend me the money or 2, add some to it for my birthday.

Also please get your facts correct. I didnt allow my parents to do anything, they wouldnt allow me to chose as it wasnt my money apparently. I wanted a Ford Fiesta 1.4 TDCI (on a 53/54 plate) which would have cost me about 3k. That to me seemed a much better investment than 2600 on a 10yr old golf.

ANYWAY im not painting it. i am however, still putting wheels on it but they cost me £150 so hardly big bucks (plus they are in the post so i cant, not, have them now).

And im going to save up and get myself a BMW 323 in the next few months

Jonny671

29,395 posts

189 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Thom.. How are you going to insure one of those dude?

Utterly Clueless

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193 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Jonny671 said:
Thom.. How are you going to insure one of those dude?
I've been looking at quotes, 1200 is the lowest i can get, but thats on my own policy with 0NCB and 1 years experience. Currently paying 1400 for the golf as an aditional driver. so its still less than what im paying now even if it is 250 more than it is to insure my golf next year (again on my own policy with 0NCB and 1 years experience).

Jonny671

29,395 posts

189 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Not too bad really!

I'm assuming thats TPF&T?

Just be weary as thats quite a big engine and RWD when really we're only beginners.

OllieWinchester

5,654 posts

192 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Utterly Clueless said:
I didnt allow my parents to do anything, they wouldnt allow me to chose as it wasnt my money apparently.

What do you mean apparently?

ANYWAY im not painting it. i am however, still putting wheels on it but they cost me £150 so hardly big bucks (plus they are in the post so i cant, not, have them now).

I suggest putting the wheels on the car then selling it would be a bad move, as chances are you will get less for it with the wheels on. People will think it has been a little boy racers first car hence thrashed to death, and that will put people off. Sell the wheels seperately, they don't fit properly anyway.

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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What price of vehicle are you thinking about changing to, roughly?

Like I said before, you really need to bear in mind that the trade in value for yours on anything less than 1.5k will be no more than £500, if you're lucky. I know this from recent experience, traders at this level just don't want your sort of car for anything more than that, just not worth it.

In short, you will need a grand in your pocket to chop in the Golf for a £1500 car.

Save a grand, sell yours for £750 privately and go shopping.

Good choice of replacement car.

TomJS

973 posts

196 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Exhibit A:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Exhibit B:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

PH comments were as follows:

pistonheads said:
"don't piss cash on a sedate looking burgundy 5 door Golf"

"The phrase I'm looking for is "throwing good money after bad", ie there is nothing to be gained from spending more on the Golf now"

"Give up on trying to 'mod' the Golf. It's never going to amount to much."
Despite these comments, OP ignores them. He buys alloys directly against their advice, and was considering respraying the Golf. Again, despite their advice and despite admitting he intends to chop in the golf for another car (be it an MR2 or a BMW 3 series).

As background, OP has told various PH'ers to go f*** themselves. He also works for Halfords, and has permitted his parents to spend £2600 on a 10+ year old golf 'on his behalf'. I rest my case.

Utterly Clueless

Original Poster:

1,981 posts

193 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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TomJS said:
Exhibit A:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Exhibit B:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

PH comments were as follows:

pistonheads said:
"don't piss cash on a sedate looking burgundy 5 door Golf"

"The phrase I'm looking for is "throwing good money after bad", ie there is nothing to be gained from spending more on the Golf now"

"Give up on trying to 'mod' the Golf. It's never going to amount to much."
Despite these comments, OP ignores them. He buys alloys directly against their advice, and was considering respraying the Golf. Again, despite their advice and despite admitting he intends to chop in the golf for another car (be it an MR2 or a BMW 3 series).

As background, OP has told various PH'ers to go f*** themselves. He also works for Halfords, and has permitted his parents to spend £2600 on a 10+ year old golf 'on his behalf'. I rest my case.
HAHA, i love how you use 'he works for halfords' as a vaild case for your arguement. for your info i work on cycles, i am a mountainbiker at heart, i can do ANYTHING to a mountain bike and can tell you all you need to know. Cars are new to me and a bit of a novelty still.

This thread i have done nothing BUT take peoples advice.
Pulling up 3-6months old threads doenst work im sorry.

I went against peoples advice recently and learned the hard way, so guess what. I starting listening. this thread being a prime example.

I was going to chop the golf in for an MR2, but 1. the condition wasn't great and it had 150k on the clock, and 2 if i would have chopped it in i would have been on the streets as my dad threatened to kick me out if i 'went against his will'

they are happy with the BMW though as its a 'good car' and is 'practical'. The idea of me being in a 'two seater sports car' wasnt something they were happy with.


Utterly Clueless

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OllieWinchester said:
Utterly Clueless said:
I didnt allow my parents to do anything, they wouldnt allow me to chose as it wasnt my money apparently.

What do you mean apparently?

ANYWAY im not painting it. i am however, still putting wheels on it but they cost me £150 so hardly big bucks (plus they are in the post so i cant, not, have them now).

I suggest putting the wheels on the car then selling it would be a bad move, as chances are you will get less for it with the wheels on. People will think it has been a little boy racers first car hence thrashed to death, and that will put people off. Sell the wheels seperately, they don't fit properly anyway.
The money was off them for my 18th bday. i bought a car at 19 with that money, but as they GAVE it to me they still considered it theres and thus it was 75% their decision in their eyes.

As for the wheels, these do fit. I sold the incorrect ones and bought different ones. They are also genuine VW wheels but when i come to sell it i will sell it with the original wheels on and sell the other set with it as well and just say one set had winter tyres and the other summer tires (which wont be a lie as the old wheels do have winter tyres on them and the new ones have summer tyres).

But once again thanks guys. I wont go wasting money on a repsray i'll save that money to add towards the 323. The cars im looking at range from 1-2k so im hoping to get maybe 500-700 for my golf. Its quite a hit considered what i paid, but thats life..

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

215 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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Utterly Clueless said:
OllieWinchester said:
Utterly Clueless said:
I didnt allow my parents to do anything, they wouldnt allow me to chose as it wasnt my money apparently.

What do you mean apparently?

ANYWAY im not painting it. i am however, still putting wheels on it but they cost me £150 so hardly big bucks (plus they are in the post so i cant, not, have them now).

I suggest putting the wheels on the car then selling it would be a bad move, as chances are you will get less for it with the wheels on. People will think it has been a little boy racers first car hence thrashed to death, and that will put people off. Sell the wheels seperately, they don't fit properly anyway.
The money was off them for my 18th bday. i bought a car at 19 with that money, but as they GAVE it to me they still considered it theres and thus it was 75% their decision in their eyes.

As for the wheels, these do fit. I sold the incorrect ones and bought different ones. They are also genuine VW wheels but when i come to sell it i will sell it with the original wheels on and sell the other set with it as well and just say one set had winter tyres and the other summer tires (which wont be a lie as the old wheels do have winter tyres on them and the new ones have summer tyres).

But once again thanks guys. I wont go wasting money on a repsray i'll save that money to add towards the 323. The cars im looking at range from 1-2k so im hoping to get maybe 500-700 for my golf. Its quite a hit considered what i paid, but thats life..
Until next week, when you'll be asking how to fit zenons or how to change the airbox or some other pointless upgrade.

I think it's time you stepped out of your parent's shadow.

Uhura_Fighter

7,018 posts

183 months

Sunday 12th April 2009
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TomJS said:
Exhibit A:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Exhibit B:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

PH comments were as follows:

pistonheads said:
"don't piss cash on a sedate looking burgundy 5 door Golf"

"The phrase I'm looking for is "throwing good money after bad", ie there is nothing to be gained from spending more on the Golf now"

"Give up on trying to 'mod' the Golf. It's never going to amount to much."
Despite these comments, OP ignores them. He buys alloys directly against their advice, and was considering respraying the Golf. Again, despite their advice and despite admitting he intends to chop in the golf for another car (be it an MR2 or a BMW 3 series).

As background, OP has told various PH'ers to go f*** themselves. He also works for Halfords, and has permitted his parents to spend £2600 on a 10+ year old golf 'on his behalf'. I rest my case.
I hope I haven't mis-understood your rather strange post (IMO) in this thread, but have I got this right?

The original poster NEEDS the help of pistonheads more than any other member as we all know about cars and he knows nothing. If that is the case then i'll try to help and offer advice to the OP. Or should I just rip him to bits and insult him till he tells me to F-Off?


confused


hippy

Utterly Clueless

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1,981 posts

193 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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Or even better would be to give me advice that i ask for as im now taking onboard all advice. Notice how im not even going to bother getting the car sprayed and am instead looking at better ways of spending the money??

Theres no points digging up the past as thats been and gone and nothing you do can change it. so using it against me is pretty much pointless.

you could rip me to shreads until i tell you to fk off, but what would that achieve?

Would you be happy knowing that youve defeated someone with less knowledge than you. would it make you feel smart to take the piss out of someone who only wants help? Some of you on this site really need to stop hiding behind your keyboards.

My next question was actually going to be whats the best method of spark plug removal (my engine layout is a bit akward) as my cars due its 12 month service and so i am going to do that myself with the aid of my friend.

But i guess asking such a question will only end up with 'dont service you car its st' type replies.

Sometimes i wonder why i stick with this site. The majority of you are c-unts and theres the odd one or two who understand where im coming from and are actually helpful.

I've learnt my lesson from not listening to good advice as it cost me 120 quid so now im more willing to listen, an even when ive taken onboard your advice and have halted my current idea some of you still feel the need to continue the trend of abusing me. And when you realise that theres no point in abusing me for this topic you then decide to bring up old topics that are dead and burried and abuse me for those. or you invent new topics and then abuse me for those even though they dont exsist.

seriously people (with the exception of a small minority) GROW THE FECK UP!!!!!

Edited by Utterly Clueless on Monday 13th April 01:30


Edited by Utterly Clueless on Monday 13th April 01:46

OllieWinchester

5,654 posts

192 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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How did you get your closing statement past the swear filter?

Utterly Clueless

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193 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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OllieWinchester said:
How did you get your closing statement past the swear filter?
quote it and find out

OllieWinchester

5,654 posts

192 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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I like your style Mr Clueless, very cunning.













Now you must die


Edited by OllieWinchester on Monday 13th April 01:42

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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Just a warning. I'd change that before the gestapo see it, its probably a banning offence with them these days they have gone all power mad

I understand you rant above, its not worth getting worked up over though, just ignore posts like that.

ps you shouldnt have any trouble getting the spark plugs on that car why does it look awquard?

Utterly Clueless

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Monday 13th April 2009
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Pesty said:
ps you shouldnt have any trouble getting the spark plugs on that car why does it look awquard?
My car is one of the less common 1.6's, its the 100bhp MPI version as opposed to the 75bhp SPI.

The air intake is at the back of the engine and splits into 4 veins.

Theese come over the top of the engine and then curl down towards the bottom of the engine.

from the side the engine looks like this


___
/
/
/ |
| |
intake manifold type thingy ---> | | <---- front of engine
| |
| m |
\ m|
\ |
\ |
\ |

Spark plugs are represented by 'm'.

the intake comes over the engine and down and blocks all access to the plugs. to get to them the top of the engine looks like it has to be removed??

I'll get some pictures tomorrow to explain better

Thom

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Monday 13th April 2009
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Yeah I see what you mean.

It probably has to be removed but these things are usualy quite simple. Generaly there are a few screws and clips and its off and out of the way.

post a pic, probably better asking this in the VW section though.

Edited by Pesty on Monday 13th April 02:04