RE: Renaultsport Mégane R26.R

RE: Renaultsport Mégane R26.R

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RFSA180

54 posts

189 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Nolar Dog said:
I'll stick with my Focus thanks.
Wow, in depth and insightful motoring commentary there.

172ff

3,664 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I'd love one of these. Well done for Renault for developing it.





kingstondc5

7,455 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I cant quote for some reason but FNG wrote:
CF bits do crop up on lots of Japanese cars which, as a serious threat to the performance atuobahnstormers, menas that they're there to be sneered at as fast'n'furious-tastic.

I cant quite make out if your saying that only performance cruisers can have CF and not look tacky or that due to various members of the community, CF has been made to look cheap because of the Jap import scene and therefore shouldnt be on any car?

Whats wrong with Jap cars having CF on to btw?

FL07AAV

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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I used to own a Clio 172 Sport (Y703 DTV - are you still alive?) and I decided to strip out the interior (rear seats, passenger seat, spare wheel and toolkit) and could not believe how much better it was to drive.

The rear end was a lot more lively and backing off the throttle mid-corner produced a delicious slide that could be simply brought back into line by planting the throttle and 'dragging' the car straight again.

Ahhhh they were the days biggrin

bmxellent

4 posts

204 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Why do renault insist on fitting the worst steering wheels in the world? Everything about that car sounds amazing then you see the picture of the dash and all dreams of my own touring car go out the window. Like every hot renault it all seems great then you realise oh no I'm going to have to sit in a renault.

zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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FL07AAV said:
The rear end was a lot more lively and backing off the throttle mid-corner produced a delicious slide that could be simply brought back into line by planting the throttle and 'dragging' the car straight again.
Excuse me for not believing you.

Zebra

Edited by zebra on Tuesday 14th April 16:24

FL07AAV

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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zebra said:
FL07AAV said:
The rear end was a lot more lively and backing off the throttle mid-corner produced a delicious slide that could be simply brought back into line by planting the throttle and 'dragging' the car straight again.
Excuse me for not believing you.

Zebra

Edited by zebra on Tuesday 14th April 16:24
confused

zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra

Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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bmxellent said:
Why do renault insist on fitting the worst steering wheels in the world? Everything about that car sounds amazing then you see the picture of the dash and all dreams of my own touring car go out the window. Like every hot renault it all seems great then you realise oh no I'm going to have to sit in a renault.
Might just be me, but the steering wheel is hardly a deal-breaker on a car like this.

Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
....lift off oversteer? Not a power-drift in the classic sense, but I think that's what he was inferring in his post.

Edited by Arun_D on Tuesday 14th April 16:53

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
You've heard of lift-off oversteer yes?

You're on the power cornering hard, you lift off, weight transfers forwards, rear end drifts wide.

zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Arun_D said:
zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
....lift off oversteer?
Oh dear.

FL07AAV

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
It's called lift-off oversteer.

Basically you go into a fast corner with all the weight onto one of the front wheels and then back off the throttle sharply. This causes the weight to shift and the back of the car becomes very light and slews round. You can then correct the slide by going back onto the throttle and 'dragging' the car straight again.

Hope that explains it.

Edited by FL07AAV on Tuesday 14th April 16:58

zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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FL07AAV said:
zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
It's called lift-off oversteer.
....and the alleged speed for this....


Arun_D

2,302 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Oh dear indeed.

FL07AAV

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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zebra said:
FL07AAV said:
zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
It's called lift-off oversteer.
....and the alleged speed for this....
Alleged???? What do you mean?



Edited by FL07AAV on Tuesday 14th April 17:07

zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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FL07AAV said:
zebra said:
FL07AAV said:
zebra said:
In a front wheel drive car, how does backing off the throttle give you tail end drift?

Zebra
It's called lift-off oversteer.
....and the alleged speed for this....
Alleged???? What do you mean?

You know what, I cant be bothered to explain this to a doofus like yourself. Go and read some books on the subject and THEN come back to me you 2@
rofl Alright, I'm sorry.

Zebra

FNG

4,172 posts

224 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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kingstondc5 said:
FNG said:
CF bits do crop up on lots of Japanese cars which, as a serious threat to the performance atuobahnstormers, means that they're there to be sneered at as fast'n'furious-tastic.
I cant quite make out if your saying that only performance cruisers can have CF and not look tacky or that due to various members of the community, CF has been made to look cheap because of the Jap import scene and therefore shouldnt be on any car?

Whats wrong with Jap cars having CF on to btw?
What I'm saying is that carbon fibre panels have been used extensively on Japanese cars for some time, and the image of those cars has never been great outside the scene: initially due to the hangover of poor cars in the 70s and later due to films like fast'n'furry etc.

But most of the negative comments on PH about japanese cars are, I believe, from drivers of German cars who feel that their god-given place at the top of the performance-road-car tree is under threat.

There's nothing to support any assertion that carbon panels are a true indicator of a chav driver, but in PH-land that's irrelevant in the face of a good old lazy stereotype.


Incidentally if you hit the "quote" button on the top left of this post, you will see how to format quotes. HTH.

FL07AAV

4,711 posts

184 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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Well i'm sorry for calling you a 2@ biggrin

....I actually deleted the swearing from my original post smile

.....i'm having a rough day laugh

zebra

4,555 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th April 2009
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FL07AAV said:
Well i'm sorry for calling you a 2@ biggrin

....I actually deleted the swearing from my original post smile

.....i'm having a rough day laugh
Didn't mean to wind you up, was only joshing. No hard feelings mate.

Zebra biggrin