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TheOrangePeril
346 posts
49 months
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Well it's blatantly b  ks that people buying a focus RS should be given taxpayers' handouts to fund their indulgence. The scheme is terrible anyway, why anyone should complain that rich tossers should be able to get their free lunch for an expensive, high emissions car is beyond me.
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angus54
344 posts
67 months
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ad087 said: angus54 said: The number of cars with a 3 month waiting time are in the main accounting for 0.00001% of new cars sold.
They also tend to be priced £20k +
Now call me stupid but this should not be an issue to anyone driving a £2k 'scrapper'. You are stupid...... The Fiat 500 has always been a 12 week factory order time and this is at 18+ weeks at the moment  Although any decent sales person should be S.W.A.Ning at the moment (Sell Whats Available Now) I work in the trade and we are getting cleaned out of the Panda 1.1 and 500's in general. 500 is selling like crazy because there hasn't been any discount on them up until this scrappage so customers are keen to buy them and take advantage. As for the rest of our range - pre-reg is a better deal with the discounts we offer as they are £2k plus from list in general so we advise customers that this is a better way to go and part exchange the old banger against it - even if it's only worth £100 - £200 quid. Correction: Fiat 500 - low volume vehicle > I believe it may account for 3,750 cars a year max - this is a target. - You are being cleaned out beacuse.... they make very few of them anyway. You must have some very dumb customers; as you agree with me and say yourself that the pre-reg is a way better deal. Up our way they are planty of Fiat 1.1's.... - As ever its the COST TO CHANGE thats important not the discount / trade in value.
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threespires
959 posts
80 months
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Ad from my local paper last week.
MINI One On The Road Cash Price-- £12,670.00 Customer Deposit------------------ £ 500.00 Gov/MINI Scrappage Scheme------- £ 2,000.00 Amount of Credit------------------- £10.170.00 1 month payment------------------- £ 349.00 35 months payments---------------- £ 199.00 Optional Final Payment-------------- £ 5.963.24 Total Payable------------------------ £15.777.24
Contract Mileage----------------- 18,500 Excess Mileage------------------- 2.95p per mile APR------------------------------ 13.2% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
118 miles at a cost of £101.13 per week, before Ins / RFL / Fuel
Anybody taking up this deal is Bonkers IMHO.
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joz8968
1,037 posts
79 months
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XitUp said: Polarbert said: Whoever wrote the article wants a slap. You can't have more than 100 per cent. 400 per cent is terribly Daily Star. Is this a joke? Polarbert, what on earth are you on about?!
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Steve Gunnis
736 posts
76 months
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joz8968 said: XitUp said: Polarbert said: Whoever wrote the article wants a slap. You can't have more than 100 per cent. 400 per cent is terribly Daily Star. Is this a joke? Polarbert, what on earth are you on about?! As much as I hate people who say things like 'Giving it 110%', you can have more than 100% for describing quantities that are relative to each other, i.e. The 1.8 litre engine from my car makes 186% of the power per litre than the engine from an 8 litre Dodge Viper, because the Viper has 344% more engine capacity but makes only 141% more power.
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vauxhallloving
62 posts
57 months
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Jog on Brown!!! Im keeping my old s  ter you can stuff the new s  t where the sun dont s  t. t  t!!!
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Engineer1
7,175 posts
78 months
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Also a car with a 3 month waiting list could be that the demand is so low the factory are on short time so not building that spec. This scrappage scheme is a good headline that will probably have no real effect other than making a group of people feel that Winky has done something good.
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Aero_saab
199 posts
81 months
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Brillaint as far as I'm concerned, keeping me in work.. currently got over 40 cars on the scrappage, to start going out on the 18th. Phone barely stopped ringing after the budget.
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Mr POD
5,153 posts
61 months
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dave_Sw1 said: presumably there is some clause to prevent you going and buying a £50 s  t heap to trade in for £2k off a car? You have to have owned it 12 months.
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ukaskew
550 posts
90 months
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Why all the environment discussion? This is a scrappage scheme, pure and simple. Unlike our European neighbours this has never been promoted as a green initiative by the govt (just in the tabloids before it was actually announced)
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Engineer1
7,175 posts
78 months
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BBC Breakfast this morning had a piece about the scrappage scheme pointing out that you can get better deals without it, and that it could well be a good publicity stunt rather than a really useful scheme.
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10 Pence Short
27,592 posts
86 months
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Engineer1 said: BBC Breakfast this morning had a piece about the scrappage scheme pointing out that you can get better deals without it, and that it could well be a good publicity stunt rather than a really useful scheme. Isn't that so... New Labour. It's like Mandelson never went away.
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fatjon
908 posts
82 months
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3 month waiting list for in demand cars, I doubt it! All the car plant workers are on short time with their thumbs up their arses praying for the chance to make a car. It's actually only a grand off anyway as the dealer will easily already knock a grand off the list price of any new car, and probably a lot more than that. When you have beaten them down to the right deal do you think they will give you another grand fowhen you announce you have an old scrapper? No chance. Then again if your old motor is worth £500 which pretty much any half decent taxed/tested car is, then they are only giving you £500 more than you could sell it for. A year ago they would have given you more than it's worth in the part ex deal anyway. It's all a load of b  ks, £500 off when buying a new car is a s  t deal, you could have got more than that with 10 minutes of haggling. Just smoke and mirrors to keep the thick spending money they don't have. Pick a dealer, walk in and say "i don't have a scrapper but I want the same deal as the last bloke or i go elsewhere". You think you will leave without a new motor, they have fields full of them, they are desperate to get rid at any price.
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Engineer1
7,175 posts
78 months
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fatjon said: Then again if your old motor is worth £500 which pretty much any half decent taxed/tested car is, then they are only giving you £500 more than you could sell it for. A year ago they would have given you more than it's worth in the part ex deal anyway. It's all a load of b  ks, £500 off when buying a new car is a s  t deal, you could have got more than that with 10 minutes of haggling. Just smoke and mirrors to keep the thick spending money they don't have. Pick a dealer, walk in and say "i don't have a scrapper but I want the same deal as the last bloke or i go elsewhere". You think you will leave without a new motor, they have fields full of them, they are desperate to get rid at any price. But the Car used under the scheme HAS to be scrapped
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MJK 24
3,646 posts
105 months
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Yeloperil said: Predictably the muppets who govern us have ill thought through the UK scrappage scheme and which will do virtually nothing to help the ailing UK car manufacturing industry. For example in Germany where they had the foresight to lead the way along with France and Italy to introduce a similar scheme months ago, it has been widely reported that this has done little for their industry, instead Hyundai and Kia have been the winners and run off with the sales so zero benefit to European parts manufacturers or car industry. Why has Lord Mandleson not learned from our European neighbors mistakes and tailored our late entry scrappage scheme to achieve the desired result? In desperate times like these Europe should be looking after its own best interests, protectionism or not, after all the French bless them, do it all the time! Germany shifted 600,000 cars of which Volkswagen was the biggest benefactor. I'd say that helped their industry.
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Gareth350
1,537 posts
48 months
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Well i've got a new Focus RS on order & using my old car to get the £2000 off under the scrappage scheme! Its a win, win situation for me! Def no discount on these cars, a premium on delivery miles private sales, so im chuffed with the scrappage scheme!
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Alex
6,245 posts
153 months
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Gareth350 said: Well i've got a new Focus RS on order & using my old car to get the £2000 off under the scrappage scheme! Its a win, win situation for me! Def no discount on these cars, a premium on delivery miles private sales, so im chuffed with the scrappage scheme! You're not scrapping your XR4i, are you?
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Gareth350
1,537 posts
48 months
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Alex said: Gareth350 said: Well i've got a new Focus RS on order & using my old car to get the £2000 off under the scrappage scheme! Its a win, win situation for me! Def no discount on these cars, a premium on delivery miles private sales, so im chuffed with the scrappage scheme! You're not scrapping your XR4i, are you? yep, afraid so mate, owned it for 14 years & been a great car but £2000 is too good an offer to turn down!
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