RE: Nissan GT-R Black Edition
Discussion
I had a blat around Millbrook on Thursday in the same car. It is an absolute weapon. There's no pretence of subtlety, no layers of talent to peel back one by one - it's just a brutal destroyer. At one point, I floored the throttle exiting a corner and as the turbo spooled up and the gearbox punched its way through the cogs quicker than I could grope for the paddles, it sounded as if it was on a 'runaway up', the engine note just psychotically increasing in pitch and intensity.
It's just one of those occasions where all you can do is giggle disbelievingly and come to the conclusions that the goalposts just shifted to an entirely different municipality.
It's just one of those occasions where all you can do is giggle disbelievingly and come to the conclusions that the goalposts just shifted to an entirely different municipality.
Dagnut said:
bromers2 said:
Kerry Katona's got one - sums it up for me.
They've had a Ferrari 430, a few porches, an AMG merc..he also has a Ducatti...put you off those cars? should Nissan by interviewing potential customers to weed out the Chavs in case it alienates clueless fools like you?Sounds like a brilliant car, although it may not be for many. I have no doubt it may well be quicker round the likes of Goodwood (and many other circuits) than a CGT, but does it reward the driver for a job well done and skill applied?
Bang for bucks, nothing comes close, of that there's no doubt. I'd still prefer a car that I controlled though - not one that does all the hard work itself.
Bang for bucks, nothing comes close, of that there's no doubt. I'd still prefer a car that I controlled though - not one that does all the hard work itself.
Droptheclutch said:
Sounds like a brilliant car, although it may not be for many. I have no doubt it may well be quicker round the likes of Goodwood (and many other circuits) than a CGT, but does it reward the driver for a job well done and skill applied?
Bang for bucks, nothing comes close, of that there's no doubt. I'd still prefer a car that I controlled though - not one that does all the hard work itself.
I think that's a very valid point and one that can really only be answered by owners who live with the car day in day out. Will the novelty wear off rapidly? I dunno. However much power you have, the scary thing is how quickly you become accustomed to it.Bang for bucks, nothing comes close, of that there's no doubt. I'd still prefer a car that I controlled though - not one that does all the hard work itself.
Edited by Silver Pellet on Saturday 23 May 11:50
Silver Pellet said:
Droptheclutch said:
Sounds like a brilliant car, although it may not be for many. I have no doubt it may well be quicker round the likes of Goodwood (and many other circuits) than a CGT, but does it reward the driver for a job well done and skill applied?
Bang for bucks, nothing comes close, of that there's no doubt. I'd still prefer a car that I controlled though - not one that does all the hard work itself.
I think that's a very valid point and one that can really only be answered by owners who live with the car day in day out. Will the novelty wear off rapidly? I dunno. However much power you have, the scary thing is how quickly you become accustomed to it.Bang for bucks, nothing comes close, of that there's no doubt. I'd still prefer a car that I controlled though - not one that does all the hard work itself.
Edited by Silver Pellet on Saturday 23 May 11:50
I've done the quick 4WD turbo thing a few years back and I got used to the power within a few weeks. It just seemed normal. OK, my car of that moment was not knocking on the door of 500/550bhp, but 375bhp and less weight (quite a lot) made for loads of fun all the same.
I ended up selling it and buying rear wheel drive with no abs/traction control, etc, etc.
Still, only time will tell if the current GT-R will be an all time great. Lets see what happens when they go 'bang' in the g'box or engine dept. Until then, I'll keep looking in my mirrors and moving over;)
briancorish said:
Dagnut said:
bromers2 said:
Kerry Katona's got one - sums it up for me.
They've had a Ferrari 430, a few porches, an AMG merc..he also has a Ducatti...put you off those cars? should Nissan by interviewing potential customers to weed out the Chavs in case it alienates clueless fools like you?I'm baffled by your comments.
king Hell." ...Dagnut said:
briancorish said:
Dagnut said:
bromers2 said:
Kerry Katona's got one - sums it up for me.
They've had a Ferrari 430, a few porches, an AMG merc..he also has a Ducatti...put you off those cars? should Nissan by interviewing potential customers to weed out the Chavs in case it alienates clueless fools like you?I'm baffled by your comments.
The only problem I can see with the utterly brilliant GTR is the badge and peoples perceptions of Sporting Nissans. That might sound a bit shallow, but badge snobbery has a serious effect on resale values, so the performance bargain nissan may not seem such a bargain compared to say a 911 come resale time. You need only look at late 90s japanese supercars values compared to their european equivalents for proof (the only notable exception being the NSX, which didn't go down the 'performance bargain' route). Having the Kerry Katonas of this world driving one can't exactly help it's cause can it?
Edited by briancorish on Saturday 23 May 15:07
briancorish said:
Dagnut said:
briancorish said:
Dagnut said:
bromers2 said:
Kerry Katona's got one - sums it up for me.
They've had a Ferrari 430, a few porches, an AMG merc..he also has a Ducatti...put you off those cars? should Nissan by interviewing potential customers to weed out the Chavs in case it alienates clueless fools like you?I'm baffled by your comments.
The only problem I can see with the utterly brilliant GTR is the badge and peoples perceptions of Sporting Nissans. That might sound a bit shallow, but badge snobbery has a serious effect on resale values, so the performance bargain nissan may not seem such a bargain compared to say a 911 come resale time. You need only look at late 90s japanese supercars values compared to their european equivalents for proof (the only notable exception being the NSX, which didn't go down the 'performance bargain' route). Having the Kerry Katonas of this world driving one can't exactly help it's cause can it?
Edited by briancorish on Saturday 23 May 15:07
Have a pop at the badge that's fair enough I understand paying 60k for a car you want your neighbours or what ever else in your world to be impressed but because "chavs" buy them doesn't make them "chavy" in fact from my experience when tramps get money the first thing they try to do is impress people with labels and badges.
kambites said:
I can fully understand what a great car it is, but it doesn't remotely appeal.
Its an odd thing, fairly unique to the GTR that people need to tell others that they dont want one.Not having a pop at you there, every GTR thread has a couple of these comments on them and I find it an extraordinary phenomina.
There are a few cars that don't interest me at all (when perhaps they should) and it would not eve occur to me to go on a thread about them and simply type "I dont want one of these".
- quickly checks his own posts to make sure he never has*
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