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80Bob
100 posts
119 months
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Interestingly, this week Victoria announced a big increase in speed camera deployment (with the associated big fanfare) yet were nowhere to be seen when research showed the 25% of the vehicles in Victoria are unroadworthy.
It never ceases to amaze me when I see a cop in the middle of nowhere just waiting for a victim. These days I get my kicks on gravel roads in my BMW GS bike away from the coppers.
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dcb
4,442 posts
134 months
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80Bob said: Interestingly, this week Victoria announced a big increase in speed camera deployment (with the associated big fanfare) yet were nowhere to be seen when research showed the 25% of the vehicles in Victoria are unroadworthy. I'd have thought that the first Aussie politico to stand up and say that road safety is a lot more complex than merely controlling speed would collect a lot of votes. Or is it that most of the Aussie voters are mindless sheep who really do think that speed control is the major tool in the box when it comes to road safety ? I'd be interested to see serious evidence of how many lives these speed cameras have saved. Surely they must have this evidence before installing more ?
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deviant
4,316 posts
79 months
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dcb said: 80Bob said: Interestingly, this week Victoria announced a big increase in speed camera deployment (with the associated big fanfare) yet were nowhere to be seen when research showed the 25% of the vehicles in Victoria are unroadworthy. I'd have thought that the first Aussie politico to stand up and say that road safety is a lot more complex than merely controlling speed would collect a lot of votes. [b]Or is it that most of the Aussie voters are mindless sheep who really do think that speed control is the major tool in the box when it comes to road safety ?[/b] I'd be interested to see serious evidence of how many lives these speed cameras have saved. Surely they must have this evidence before installing more ? I fear the highlighted section might be the truth.. As for the studies done have a look at this impartial, well supported and common sense government website... http://www.justice.vic.gov.au/wps/wcm/connect/Road...There is another document here http://www.arrivealive.vic.gov.au/files/pdf/action...In fact if you have a look on google there are a number of studies done and for some reason each state seems to have a number of different 'roads' departments http://www.officeofroadsafety.wa.gov.au/ is yet another one.
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Mr J
257 posts
120 months
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dcb said: 80Bob said: Interestingly, this week Victoria announced a big increase in speed camera deployment (with the associated big fanfare) yet were nowhere to be seen when research showed the 25% of the vehicles in Victoria are unroadworthy. I'd have thought that the first Aussie politico to stand up and say that road safety is a lot more complex than merely controlling speed would collect a lot of votes. Or is it that most of the Aussie voters are mindless sheep who really do think that speed control is the major tool in the box when it comes to road safety ? I'd suggest most people are mindless sheep, but no most people don't seem to be fooled by the speeding campaign, but perhaps only to the extent that they know it's about money, not lives. The government even aired an anti-speeding add for a while that contained no speeding at all, just some young males driving like w  kers. It does vary from state to state, and New South Wales (where I live) seems better than the other states and the UK (most plain cars are marked, cameras are limited and require 3 warning signs, don't ping you for going a few Ks over etc). They are lowering every speed limit possible though, such as 60km/h over an 8-laned bridge, 50km on a 4-lane road etc. I don't think any significant politician has made a stand against the cameras, they just bring in too much revenue. In my state, the public is so clueless they keep voting the same idiots back into power.
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Johnpidge
588 posts
58 months
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Aussies - no fecking sense of humour the lot of them! ha ha and only 142mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jellison
12,630 posts
146 months
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They are not very nice to look at in the flesh (Well BUTT Ugly) - so maybe the pound is the best place for it   Brands 24th May.
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kippax
2,297 posts
118 months
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jellison said: They are not very nice to look at in the flesh (Well BUTT Ugly) - so maybe the pound is the best place for it Might have known the Pikeys would have 1
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simonrockman
4,665 posts
124 months
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I suspect the impounding, and refusal to release the car was to send a "road safety message". Playing the publicity game. Not a message I agree with but let them have their little game.
I think I need to see a 599 in the metal. I'll go for a drive after lunch and see if I can spot one.
Simon
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f111lover
143 posts
62 months
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That's fantastic, they should crush the car, it would make people take more care about who drives their car.
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r129sl
2,380 posts
72 months
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I don't understand why the driver stopped.
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Menguin
2,904 posts
90 months
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r129sl said: I don't understand why the driver stopped. It wouldn't be hard to confirm who the driver was if he didn't
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Jem Thompson
930 posts
51 months
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r129sl said: I don't understand why the driver stopped. Maybe he didn't want to add evading police/resisting arrest to his record? Alternatively, if you are that far up s t creek you may as well keep paddling.
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deviant
4,316 posts
79 months
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simonrockman said: I suspect the impounding, and refusal to release the car was to send a "road safety message". Playing the publicity game. Not a message I agree with but let them have their little game.
I think I need to see a 599 in the metal. I'll go for a drive after lunch and see if I can spot one.
Simon No...its the law here not a stunt to send a message or make an example of someone in an evil sportscar 
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Jem Thompson
930 posts
51 months
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I think I agree with Deviant. Just because it was a Ferrari, doesn't mean they shouldn't impound it. As to who owns it, I believe it does not change anything.
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jellison
12,630 posts
146 months
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Chances are the Tricked out Holdens they likely have would not have an issue keeping up.
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deviant
4,316 posts
79 months
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Jem Thompson said: I think I agree with Deviant. Just because it was a Ferrari, doesn't mean they shouldn't impound it. As to who owns it, I believe it does not change anything. That is correct. It does not matter who is the owner of the car...so if your HSV Clubsport is in for a service and the mechanic decides to go for a 'test drive' they can impound your car. You get 3 hoon strikes on your license that do not clear, so if you get 'hoon lawed' twice now and then go 20 years of angelic driving before a slip of judgement and doing something silly they still tot up the 3 offences...bye bye car. Cars can also be confiscated for driving without a license, registration and drink driving.
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jellison
12,630 posts
146 months
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Hmm - I won't be heading to Aus then!!!
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fluffnik
17,329 posts
96 months
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Colonial said: This country is pathetic in regards to speeding/driving.
You think you’ve got it tough? Trust me. Driving in the UK after 7 years of driving in Australia was like being unleashed in a libertarian, tolerant motoring heaven. Why don't you vote your problem into the past?
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simonrockman
4,665 posts
124 months
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I went to have a look. I'm 10 mins from Monaco.
Saw a couple of Califonias this afternoon and agree, the detail looks very Japanese after-market. Saw a blue one with the roof down and a red one with the roof up and don't think it makes much difference.
I also saw a black 612 and that looked much better.
Simon
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fluffnik
17,329 posts
96 months
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deviant said: That is correct. It does not matter who is the owner of the car...so if your HSV Clubsport is in for a service and the mechanic decides to go for a 'test drive' they can impound your car.
You get 3 hoon strikes on your license that do not clear, so if you get 'hoon lawed' twice now and then go 20 years of angelic driving before a slip of judgement and doing something silly they still tot up the 3 offences...bye bye car.
Cars can also be confiscated for driving without a license, registration and drink driving. Sounds like your government are even bigger thieves than ours.
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