bugatti veyron.. why is it so hyped?

bugatti veyron.. why is it so hyped?

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fpsasm

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53 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Could anyone tell me a good reason why the bugatti veyron was so hyped? It wasn't that much better then a standard Mclaren F1, infact the bug is:
-Less practical (less seats, bag space, etc)
-Slower (on a track)
-uses more fuel for the same run
-worse aerodynamics
...then a mclaren f1

the only real upsides i see is that its got nearly 2x more power, and is faster in a striaght line.. but its only 6km/h fastester in then a mclaren f1? lets face it.. thats not alot.. no one rly blinked a eye about the aero tt beating it

what makes it so good? that is has 1001bhp? a bloke in a shed got 2200hp out of a v8 5.7ltr engine (road legal).. and its over 2.5x faster to 100km/h...

rly wtf? can someone enlighten me why people say it is good??




a_bloke

35,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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it doesnt really matter.

Its for mega rich people.

They will buy it because they can.

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Because it has a lot of very big numbers.

emailiscrap

191 posts

219 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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fpsasm said:
the only real upsides i see is that its got nearly 2x more power, and is faster in a striaght line..
Works for me.

Jamesf288

438 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Hi Gordon.

heebeegeetee

28,720 posts

248 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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fpsasm said:
Could anyone tell me a good reason why the bugatti veyron was so hyped? It wasn't that much better then a standard Mclaren F1, infact the bug is:
-Less practical (less seats, bag space, etc)
-Slower (on a track)
-uses more fuel for the same run
-worse aerodynamics
...then a mclaren f1

the only real upsides i see is that its got nearly 2x more power, and is faster in a striaght line.. but its only 6km/h fastester in then a mclaren f1? lets face it.. thats not alot.. no one rly blinked a eye about the aero tt beating it

what makes it so good? that is has 1001bhp? a bloke in a shed got 2200hp out of a v8 5.7ltr engine (road legal).. and its over 2.5x faster to 100km/h...

rly wtf? can someone enlighten me why people say it is good??
Possibly because the F1 (and the 2200 shed special) wouldn't pass any current legislation and so wouldn't be able to be produced today?

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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A Veyron is better to drive down to the shops.

fpsasm

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53 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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heebeegeetee said:
fpsasm said:
Could anyone tell me a good reason why the bugatti veyron was so hyped? It wasn't that much better then a standard Mclaren F1, infact the bug is:
-Less practical (less seats, bag space, etc)
-Slower (on a track)
-uses more fuel for the same run
-worse aerodynamics
...then a mclaren f1

the only real upsides i see is that its got nearly 2x more power, and is faster in a striaght line.. but its only 6km/h fastester in then a mclaren f1? lets face it.. thats not alot.. no one rly blinked a eye about the aero tt beating it

what makes it so good? that is has 1001bhp? a bloke in a shed got 2200hp out of a v8 5.7ltr engine (road legal).. and its over 2.5x faster to 100km/h...

rly wtf? can someone enlighten me why people say it is good??
Possibly because the F1 (and the 2200 shed special) wouldn't pass any current legislation and so wouldn't be able to be produced today?
well i read that the mclaren F1, is avery safe car... and btw.. it produces less emissions then the Bug...

p.s the mclaren F1 is worth nearly 2x more dosh then a veyron,..

fpsasm

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53 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Motorrad said:
A Veyron is better to drive down to the shops.
you get there slower.. tho

otolith

56,071 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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You'll be cancelling your order then? What will you be buying instead?

By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the F1 is faster on track, but what track times are you basing that assertion on?

Bonefish Blues

26,658 posts

223 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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Because a company driver will pay mor company car tax than on any other vehicle wef Tax Year 2011/12? (I've added in my £40 pcm contribution for private use, BTW, and modelled it on the cooking version)

Vehicle benefit tax
Tax year to 5th April 2009/10 2010/11 2011/12
P11D value £80,000 £80,000 £799,540
Percentage charge 35% 35% 35%
Benefit in kind £27,520 £27,520 £279,359
Tax payable at 20% £5,504 £5,504 £55,872
Tax payable at 40% £11,008 £11,008 £111,744

heebeegeetee

28,720 posts

248 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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fpsasm said:
heebeegeetee said:
fpsasm said:
Could anyone tell me a good reason why the bugatti veyron was so hyped? It wasn't that much better then a standard Mclaren F1, infact the bug is:
-Less practical (less seats, bag space, etc)
-Slower (on a track)
-uses more fuel for the same run
-worse aerodynamics
...then a mclaren f1

the only real upsides i see is that its got nearly 2x more power, and is faster in a striaght line.. but its only 6km/h fastester in then a mclaren f1? lets face it.. thats not alot.. no one rly blinked a eye about the aero tt beating it

what makes it so good? that is has 1001bhp? a bloke in a shed got 2200hp out of a v8 5.7ltr engine (road legal).. and its over 2.5x faster to 100km/h...

rly wtf? can someone enlighten me why people say it is good??
Possibly because the F1 (and the 2200 shed special) wouldn't pass any current legislation and so wouldn't be able to be produced today?
well i read that the mclaren F1, is avery safe car... and btw.. it produces less emissions then the Bug...

p.s the mclaren F1 is worth nearly 2x more dosh then a veyron,..
The F1 is my favourite car but it's getting on a bit now. There'd be all sorts of legislation it wouldn't pass. I've no idea what it would take to build a car with similar performance that would pass, but perhaps it would be Veyron shaped.

Martin Keene

9,398 posts

225 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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fpsasm said:
heebeegeetee said:
Possibly because the F1 (and the 2200 shed special) wouldn't pass any current legislation and so wouldn't be able to be produced today?
well i read that the mclaren F1, is avery safe car... and btw.. it produces less emissions then the Bug...
Sorry, but emissions legislation has changed beyond all recognition since the early 90's. I'd be stunned if the McLaren F1 meets todays Euro 5 requirements.

sperminator

750 posts

179 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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fpsasm said:
p.s the mclaren F1 is worth nearly 2x more dosh then a veyron,..
There's an F1 for sale on Autotrader for 1.4 million and a brand new unregistered veyron for 1 million. That says it all really.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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I think it was down to the marketing of the economics.
It was said that it was the most expensive car to be made, and each one sold would be at a loss, but that is based on forgetting all the technology and research during is manufacturing.

Now to a footballer, having the most expensive car available, which was so expensive it doesn't even break even is the ultimate status symbol (apart from the aforementioned wrapped in chrome vinyl)

egomeister

6,700 posts

263 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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For me it's not the headline numbers that make the Veyron special, it the attention to detail paid to every area of the car.

It's a low volume supercar, yet the detail design is comparable if not better than most high volume production cars.

fpsasm

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53 posts

180 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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otolith said:
You'll be cancelling your order then? What will you be buying instead?

By the way, I wouldn't be surprised if the F1 is faster on track, but what track times are you basing that assertion on?
source: http://www.sps-automotive.com/en_sps/track/07Nt_zo...
nurburgring laptimes..
mclaren f1; 7:11, bug 7:40



Flanders.

6,368 posts

208 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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fpsasm said:
Motorrad said:
A Veyron is better to drive down to the shops.
you get there slower.. tho



No you wouldn't, the Macca is a hard car to drive, search for when Brundell tested it in the damp, he almost lost it. It's a race car made for the road, if the FXX was road legal it would be faster than the Macca around a track. The Bug is a fast safe comfy car to whoosh across Europe in. My gran could drive it. Which isn't bad for a 1001 bhp Monster.

Don't get me wrong though, the Macca is a fantastic car which I love.

Edited by Flanders. on Wednesday 12th August 22:53

fpsasm

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Wednesday 12th August 2009
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sperminator said:
fpsasm said:
p.s the mclaren F1 is worth nearly 2x more dosh then a veyron,..
There's an F1 for sale on Autotrader for 1.4 million and a brand new unregistered veyron for 1 million. That says it all really.
a veyron (new) is about £900,000

a Mclaren F1 GTR (number 29 (me thinks))is up for £3,000,000 and thats a rare car!

XitUp

7,690 posts

204 months

Wednesday 12th August 2009
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TheEnd said:
I think it was down to the marketing of the economics.
It was said that it was the most expensive car to be made, and each one sold would be at a loss, but that is based on forgetting all the technology and research during is manufacturing.

Now to a footballer, having the most expensive car available, which was so expensive it doesn't even break even is the ultimate status symbol (apart from the aforementioned wrapped in chrome vinyl)
This.

It's marketed to people who want people to know they have the most expensive, most powerful (when it first came out), fastest (when it first came out) car available.